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Bugler Boy
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Chances of Albinism from MS
#20519150 - 09/04/14 12:42 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've always used the same vendor with the same 'strain' with great results.
One of my cakes has 2 albino pins on it, the rest are normal.
Did my "roll of the dice" with MS just happen to land on the albino square?
Anyone know the chances of getting albino fruits from MS?
-------------------- The mushroom speaks: '"I am old, older than thought in your species, which is itself fifty times older than your history. Though I have been on earth for ages I am from the stars. My home is no one planet, for many worlds scattered through the shining disc of the galaxy have conditions which allow my spores an opportunity for life... How the hypercommunication mode operates is a secret which will not be lightly given to man. But the means should be obvious: it is the occurrence of psilocybin and psilocin in the biosynthetic pathways of my living body that opens for me and my symbiots the vision screens to many worlds"
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PsiloBeast
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Re: Chances of Albinism from MS [Re: Bugler Boy]
#20519167 - 09/04/14 12:48 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd say because it's only a generation or two away from being a wild print, which IMO means that those spores were not isolated and well managed. Nothing wrong with it, however your yields and potency were probably questionably low. I could be wrong though 
Lucky duck though for sure, I've been wanting some random Albino genetics like that
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Bugler Boy
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Re: Chances of Albinism from MS [Re: PsiloBeast]
#20519209 - 09/04/14 01:03 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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PsiloBeast said: I'd say because it's only a generation or two away from being a wild print, which IMO means that those spores were not isolated and well managed. Nothing wrong with it, however your yields and potency were probably questionably low. I could be wrong though 
Lucky duck though for sure, I've been wanting some random Albino genetics like that 
Yields look like they're going to be on par with any of the other syringe's I've done, pinning for the first flush now but other than the two random white heads everything looks fine.
As for potency that will be tested soon enough lol
More than anything I just want to know the chances of albinism from MS. From what I know it's rather rare so am curious if it's like 1 in 1000, 1 in 100000, etc.
-------------------- The mushroom speaks: '"I am old, older than thought in your species, which is itself fifty times older than your history. Though I have been on earth for ages I am from the stars. My home is no one planet, for many worlds scattered through the shining disc of the galaxy have conditions which allow my spores an opportunity for life... How the hypercommunication mode operates is a secret which will not be lightly given to man. But the means should be obvious: it is the occurrence of psilocybin and psilocin in the biosynthetic pathways of my living body that opens for me and my symbiots the vision screens to many worlds"
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Nos-hroom
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Re: Chances of Albinism from MS [Re: Bugler Boy]
#20519219 - 09/04/14 01:05 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I honestly want to see if the albinism can be duplicated through cloning.
If you have any success in doing so, I'd be interested.
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Bugler Boy
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Re: Chances of Albinism from MS [Re: Nos-hroom]
#20519232 - 09/04/14 01:09 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nos-hroom said: I honestly want to see if the albinism can be duplicated through cloning.
If you have any success in doing so, I'd be interested.
I'd like to but I'm not doing agar work. Anyone know a 'poor mans' cloning tek without agar before i hit the search bar?
I think I'd have to clone the fruit itself since the cake is producing both albino and regular fruits
-------------------- The mushroom speaks: '"I am old, older than thought in your species, which is itself fifty times older than your history. Though I have been on earth for ages I am from the stars. My home is no one planet, for many worlds scattered through the shining disc of the galaxy have conditions which allow my spores an opportunity for life... How the hypercommunication mode operates is a secret which will not be lightly given to man. But the means should be obvious: it is the occurrence of psilocybin and psilocin in the biosynthetic pathways of my living body that opens for me and my symbiots the vision screens to many worlds"
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Nos-hroom
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Re: Chances of Albinism from MS [Re: Bugler Boy]
#20519239 - 09/04/14 01:11 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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There might be something on pseudo-"cloning" with an LC, but I cringe at the thought. I'd wait for more input.
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Bugler Boy said:
I think I'd have to clone the fruit itself since the cake is producing both albino and regular fruits
Right.
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Yukon Cornelius
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Re: Chances of Albinism from MS [Re: Bugler Boy]
#20519262 - 09/04/14 01:17 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Could be wrong but I remember someone chiming in about there being a difference between a pure genetic albino and just a pigment mutation. If the spores are translucent then it's a true albino. I got some albino fruits from MS on my first grow and tried to made some syringes from a print and the fruits turned out normal. Might have better luck with agar as others have said.
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Nos-hroom
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The print doesn't have "cloned" or direct genetics from the fruit in question.
The meiosis-like process that takes place in the cap creates genetic diversity that would help the mushrooms thrive in nature, but in our cases, one does a complete and utter shot in the dark when getting spores off a print or MS syringe.
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Mdahmer
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Re: Chances of Albinism from MS [Re: Nos-hroom]
#20519486 - 09/04/14 02:19 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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ive heard about cloning on cardboard but haven't really looked into it, try that out in the search engine or get into agar as im sure you've heard a lot in your time on this site.
it really isn't as daunting as it may seem at first and you can go the 'no pour' method too if you feel better about that
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MudaFuka
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Re: Chances of Albinism from MS [Re: Mdahmer]
#20519566 - 09/04/14 02:43 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've cloned on cardboard it works ok but I haven't done it in a while so just check the search engine for details. Making agar is as easy as making jello though. I would just learn how to do that.
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Bugler Boy
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Re: Chances of Albinism from MS [Re: MudaFuka]
#20519619 - 09/04/14 02:56 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'll do some searching.. I've done agar work in classes so know the deal, just haven't worked with mushrooms and agar.
Trying to clone this 'albino' I've got would be where I'd like to start but it'll be ready before I can get the agar supplies so would have to go another route
-------------------- The mushroom speaks: '"I am old, older than thought in your species, which is itself fifty times older than your history. Though I have been on earth for ages I am from the stars. My home is no one planet, for many worlds scattered through the shining disc of the galaxy have conditions which allow my spores an opportunity for life... How the hypercommunication mode operates is a secret which will not be lightly given to man. But the means should be obvious: it is the occurrence of psilocybin and psilocin in the biosynthetic pathways of my living body that opens for me and my symbiots the vision screens to many worlds"
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MudaFuka
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Re: Chances of Albinism from MS [Re: Bugler Boy]
#20519634 - 09/04/14 03:00 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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You can use cardboard to take the clone and transfer it to agar latter on. I cant remember my exact method but I know for a fact there is something on the search engine that can show you how to do it.
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Nos-hroom
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Re: Chances of Albinism from MS [Re: Bugler Boy]
#20519637 - 09/04/14 03:00 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pasty has a tek on Making Easy Agar.
Stro has a tek on Using Agar.
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