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Re: PE on Coir/Verm... 16 days with no pins. mesed up moisture? [Re: Inocuole]
    #20507675 - 09/01/14 07:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Fuck liners
Liner:


no liner:


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Re: PE on Coir/Verm... 16 years with no tits. mesed up moisture? [Re: azur]
    #20507684 - 09/01/14 07:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Fuck liners
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I get a better top pinset with a liner, but more pins in general without. :shrug:


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Re: PE on Coir/Verm... 16 years with no tits. mesed up moisture? [Re: Inocuole]
    #20507692 - 09/01/14 07:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I was showing not the pin set, but where tthey were coming from:shrug:


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Re: PE on Coir/Verm... 16 days with no pins. mesed up moisture? [Re: mathieu]
    #20507697 - 09/01/14 07:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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This is my 4th failure-- each time I've gotten fully-colonized, *seemingly* healthy mycelium all the way to fruiting conditions and then they just never. fucking. fruit. but they don't contam either.




Story of my fucking life right now.


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Re: PE on Coir/Verm... 16 years with no tits. mesed up moisture? [Re: azur]
    #20507812 - 09/01/14 08:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I was showing not the pin set, but where they were coming from:shrug:



Your issue lies in how your using the liner not the liner itself.

I used to have issues with liners myself and now when one fails I can usually tell why.

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Re: PE on Coir/Verm... 16 years with no tits. mesed up moisture? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #20507844 - 09/01/14 08:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Agreed. I only put that liner in cause i told someone on crons old journal i would. But still...fuck liners


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Re: PE on Coir/Verm... 16 years with no tits. mesed up moisture? [Re: azur]
    #20507859 - 09/01/14 08:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

My biggest qualm with liners so far is having a hard time finding a large, durable, non-opaque liner ... thinking I wanna grab some retro furniture laminate and make some transparent, sized-up ones out of it.

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Re: PE on Coir/Verm... 16 years with no tits. mesed up moisture? [Re: Nos-hroom]
    #20507884 - 09/01/14 08:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I just use clear garbage bags or painters plastic.


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Re: PE on Coir/Verm... 16 years with no tits. mesed up moisture? [Re: azur]
    #20507887 - 09/01/14 08:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Agreed. I only put that liner in cause i told someone on crons old journal i would. But still...fuck liners




Fungus defies logic... What functional difference do liners make?  I wouldn't think it's an issue of light, seeing as the center pins just fine (unless everyone is photoshopping their images and the cosmos has been having a Fuck With Mat field day off and on for the last year and a half-- which I wouldn't rule out)


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Re: PE on Coir/Verm... 16 years with no tits. mesed up moisture? [Re: mathieu]
    #20507895 - 09/01/14 08:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Liners are there to prevent pins from coming up in places where you can't easily reach them, and they also help retain moisture and make good handles to pick up the whole substrate with.


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Re: PE on Coir/Verm... 16 years with no tits. mesed up moisture? [Re: mathieu]
    #20507897 - 09/01/14 08:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Folks say like like em to reduce side pinning and it makes it easier to pull out to harvest and dunk.
I get few side pins that don't bother me and i don't dunk. And i am not wasteful


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Re: PE on Coir/Verm... 16 years with no tits. mesed up moisture? [Re: MudaFuka]
    #20507907 - 09/01/14 08:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I just use clear garbage bags or painters plastic.




Oh! Painter's plastic sounds wonderful. Furniture laminate would be a bit thick anyway, but I like this. I'll give that a shot.

Edit: Lovely ninja subject edit, that.

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Re: PE on Coir/Verm... 16 years with no tits. mesed up moisture? [Re: Nos-hroom]
    #20507908 - 09/01/14 08:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Best way to use a liner is to not open the trash bag up, just unfold it. Then tape the sides in the centre low enough to keep it from suspending the sub too much. Do not tape the corners.


After spawning trim at least an inch up from sub level and when it folds over the water will run down behind it. Then the bags will seperate as the sub shrinks preventing the bag being stuck to the wall from pulling it off of the sub in places allowing the pins to get started.



See the gap where the two layers of liner seperate? That lets you know its doing its job :thumbup:

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Re: PE on Coir/Verm... 16 years with no tits. mesed up moisture? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #20507925 - 09/01/14 08:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:vibin:


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Re: PE on Coir/Verm... 16 years with no tits. mesed up moisture? [Re: azur]
    #20507931 - 09/01/14 08:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

liners reduce side pins by clinging to the substrate as it shrinks. Which prevents air from getting to the sides and bottom of the sub. I generally try to use them but some times I forget or get lazy. I do get more side pins without a liner but when this happens I just take the sub out of its tray or tub and fruit it in my GH so all sides can fruit. All the fruits in the third pic in my sig started out as side and bottom pins.


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Re: PE on Coir/Verm... 16 years with no tits. mesed up moisture? [Re: MudaFuka]
    #20508275 - 09/01/14 09:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Whoops My phone has crazy auto correct I meant Clear liner not clean haha.

I buy that thick ass plastic drop cloth at the hardware store to use for my liners now.
5 bux buys liners enough for 20 tubs
Ive seen a 75% reduction in side pins since using a thick liner over the thin trashbags I was cutting up before


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Re: PE on Coir/Verm... 16 years with no tatts. mesed up moisture? [Re: mushpunx]
    #20509382 - 09/02/14 06:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So I looked in on the tub this morning and this little guy had popped up from a gap that has formed between the liner and substrate.



My first fruit ever-- I've named him King Baby Dick
you can even see it peaking out in one of the pictures I posted yesterday, which is kinda funny (to the right of the top-left pollyfill'd hole)

There are 2 others whose shadow I can see pressed up against the side in tight formation around him, forming in the new gap between the colonized sub and liner. I'm thrilled about this, candidly, but it also makes me wonder about the rest of the substrate... this pocket was by far the most moist in the entire tub (on the side with the least airflow, in a crack that would collect and retain high moisture levels.


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Re: PE on Coir/Verm... 16 years with no tatts. mesed up moisture? [Re: mushpunx]
    #20509392 - 09/02/14 06:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Also, on closer inspection of the sides I can see that standing water has collected at the bottom of the tub outside the liner; does anything need to be done about that?


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Re: PE on Coir/Verm... 16 years with no tatts. mesed up moisture? [Re: mushpunx]
    #20509393 - 09/02/14 06:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

god damnit i'm going to be such a fucking helicopter dad one day.


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Re: PE on Coir/Verm... 16 years with no tatts. mesed up moisture? [Re: mathieu]
    #20509434 - 09/02/14 07:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Walk away from the tub, my friend...  walk away!  For your own good!

It's been proven Mushrooms are sentient beings .  They know where you are and feel your stress! 

Let them grow!


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