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OfflineCallampin
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Lazy Man's Tek
    #2050050 - 10/28/03 10:59 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Uhm , id like to discribe my procedures as a tek , maybe ill serv some one , but at the same time id like to make some questions about some of the steps


1- Innoc jars , incubate, Rye jar commpletely colonized ( 1 liter jar)

2- Pc straw , and sterilize EVERYTHING,
when the straw is ready leave to cool down

3- get sterilized container (tupperware tray)
place a thin layer of straw

4- Open cake and crumble on the straw

5- Now cover with another thin layer of straw , but enough to cover
all of the mycelium

6- leave to colonize for a few days

7- When its completely colonized cover with a previously PC'ed
50/50 casing mix (peat/verm)

8- Now let colonize , fruit , flush


now i question is , between step 5 and 7 ok i leave to colonize and it takes over all the substrate , and then i cover with the peat/verm mix , after that , i just leave it colonize and fruit??



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Re: Lazy Man's Tek [Re: Callampin]
    #2050061 - 10/28/03 11:10 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Yes. You will have to wait for the mycelium to colonize the straw then case when the substrate is fully colonized. After the casing layer is applied, it goes directly into the fruiting chamber.
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Re: Lazy Man's Tek [Re: Psilopleix]
    #2050069 - 10/28/03 11:14 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

i would scratch that 50/50 casing. the ph is too low on the peat. you will get contaminates. pasturize the straw. don't sterilize unless ur using an impule sealer and a filterpatch bag.


Edited by Tomandjerry58 (10/28/03 11:17 AM)


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Re: Lazy Man's Tek [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #2050072 - 10/28/03 11:18 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

ok the thing is that also one of these 50/50 got fully colonized within like 2 days , is it bad that the casing layer get colonized ? should i recase it? or just leave it as is and put in the fruiting chamber?


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Re: Lazy Man's Tek [Re: Callampin]
    #2050083 - 10/28/03 11:24 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Oh yes, plz pasteurize your straw. Your leaving it open to any contaminate if its sterilized in a pc.

The casing layer got colonized? A casing layer thats afflicted with overlay will fuse itself with the substrate, and it takes more than 2 days for this happen. It sounds as if you have healthy mycelium growth and you should be seeing pins.


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Re: Lazy Man's Tek [Re: Psilopleix]
    #2050086 - 10/28/03 11:27 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

EH? YOU CASED SOMETHING AND IT ISNT IN THE FRUITING CHAMBER?
plz... put it in there now. Once you apply the casing layer theres no more need for incubation.


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Re: Lazy Man's Tek [Re: Psilopleix]
    #2050088 - 10/28/03 11:28 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

yea , the problem is that all of the water drops (i think) some how killed some of the myc and then i thought OVERLAY! but then every one told me it was hypal knots , so im not really sure cause it is all colonized and Noooooo pinning :frown: 


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Re: Lazy Man's Tek [Re: Psilopleix]
    #2050091 - 10/28/03 11:30 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Psilopleix said:
Once you apply the casing layer theres no more need for incubation.


wrong


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Re: Lazy Man's Tek [Re: Callampin]
    #2050092 - 10/28/03 11:30 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)



Skippy usually lets his casing get colonized after the substrate gets colonized.... if that answers your question......


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Re: Lazy Man's Tek [Re: Psilopleix]
    #2050093 - 10/28/03 11:31 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

well ur in luck. sometimes it works sometime it doesn't. but i do suggest u watch the peat and get a ph tester. ive laid a casing layer down on some beautiful looking mycelium and it got contamed.i think i will use just plain plastic from now on with straw. go ahead and fruit. got any pics?


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Re: Lazy Man's Tek [Re: shirley knott]
    #2050123 - 10/28/03 11:58 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Psilopleix said:
Once you apply the casing layer theres no more need for incubation. 


wrong 



Wrong? anything else you can tell me shirley?  :confused: 


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Re: Lazy Man's Tek [Re: Psilopleix]
    #2050133 - 10/28/03 12:07 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

you want it to eat up into the casing layer a little way, so it's a good idea not to introduce fruiting triggers (fresh air, moisture, light, cooler temps) until you still want it to form pins.

if you lower the temp while the myc has no sight of light or breeze on it's face, it may get confused. i'm not saying you can't just case and pop in the fruiter, just that it's not a bad thing to reincubate the casing until it's ready - i.e. myc just visible under the surface. since cubensis is so easy, it will fruit with just one or two triggers, but i think it's a good idea to hone your methods before harder species that will need exact trigger parameters.

mebbe we'll get a bit of debate going - i'm sure there are some reading this who disagree with me completely :smile:   


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Re: Lazy Man's Tek [Re: shirley knott]
    #2050143 - 10/28/03 12:10 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

why did you pc the straw?


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Re: Lazy Man's Tek [Re: thisone]
    #2050273 - 10/28/03 01:20 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

uhm , i have no camera , i did pc the straw for like 3 hours , one little question , what if i leave the fully colonized rye/straw casing in the fruiting chamber , without covering it with peat and verm , will it fruit??


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Re: Lazy Man's Tek [Re: Callampin]
    #2050302 - 10/28/03 01:28 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I know you did. Why did you?


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Re: Lazy Man's Tek [Re: thisone]
    #2050320 - 10/28/03 01:31 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

ohh sorry , i read bad teh question :P , ohhh , i always pc cause the starw comes with shitloads of dust and other crap :smile: 


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Re: Lazy Man's Tek [Re: Callampin]
    #2050328 - 10/28/03 01:33 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

you're supposed to pastuerize it though, not pc it.


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Re: Lazy Man's Tek [Re: thisone]
    #2050445 - 10/28/03 02:03 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

yea , its that i put al the straw in a cloth bag an then i put it inside the pc witha brick on top an then let it boil for a couple of hours its like presure pasteurizing :P


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Re: Lazy Man's Tek [Re: Callampin]
    #2051143 - 10/28/03 07:44 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

wheres the pressure?


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Re: Lazy Man's Tek [Re: dcx]
    #2051364 - 10/28/03 08:43 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

in the cooker :laugh:


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