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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: cronicr]
    #20601337 - 09/22/14 02:04 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: 13shrooms]
    #20601399 - 09/22/14 02:23 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

ok now lets knock the crap off and stop the flaming shall we, it's a good thread that should stay that way and were all adults who can discuss things like adults


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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: cronicr]
    #20601428 - 09/22/14 02:30 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #20625495 - 09/27/14 12:00 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

So, for cubes which do you guys prefer? sunlight(indirect: windows covered by shades) Direct sunlight, or artificial? In your own opinions


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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: Alex Oxblood]
    #20625879 - 09/27/14 01:22 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

I've never relied on anything other than artificial light. Light fixtures can be moved around and placed in areas without windows.

I plan to do some experiments with sun vs electric in the near future once I proof my cultures.

Experimentation can sometimes be more reliable than peoples opinions. You'll be surprised at how many people have opinions on things they've never experimented with.


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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #20625967 - 09/27/14 01:43 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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I've never relied on anything other than artificial light. Light fixtures can be moved around and placed in areas without windows.

I plan to do some experiments with sun vs electric in the near future once I proof my cultures.

Experimentation can sometimes be more reliable than peoples opinions. You'll be surprised at how many people have opinions on things they've never experimented with.




Id say it often is more reliable than others opinions, if not always. Because experimentation proves it to you.


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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #20625995 - 09/27/14 01:48 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

everyones situation and conditions are different, if I try to use sunlight as a light source I just over heat my tubs and subs.

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You'll be surprised at how many people have opinions on things they've never experimented with.




fuckin' QFT!

or actually how many people who straight up lie to come off as better growers
which is ridiculous. its better to ask questions and get good answers than
lie about your success and have failed grows forever!


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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: spacechildo]
    #20626024 - 09/27/14 01:55 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: Fivel]
    #20626048 - 09/27/14 02:01 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

what no one will lie about there grows on the internet:shrug:


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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #20626313 - 09/27/14 02:58 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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20 days (12 Days Fruiting)

It looks like I may get some smaller fruits. It could be genetics and/or having to mess with it the other day. I turned my ceiling fan back on because of the fuzzy feet.






My 6 quart monotub just exhibited two of those little pinheads. Am I ready to fruit yet?

I read somewhere you should wait one week after you see your first pinhead, to ensure "consolidation."

Also, what are you looking at when you take a mono from spawn stage to fruiting? People say it should be "fully colonized," but visually, it looks different from a "fully colonized" grain jar. Grain jars are nearly whited out, whereas with monotubs, it seems webbier... although I've seen a pic of a completely whited out monotub before. Looked like whipped cream on top.


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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: cinderblock]
    #20627701 - 09/27/14 08:05 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

well i ended up getting my setup dialed in. but not dialed in the frank horrigan way. franks way for me dried all my tubs out and screwed up all my first flushes minus one or two. what i ended up doing to get it dialed in was make the top holes slightly loose but not as loose as franks way. i put a fan on the opposite side of the room facing directly at the tubs but oscillating back and forth across the room. this seems to work perfectly for my setup. now, with the ape strain i had to actually pull out my polyfil holes on two sides because they require so much more fae than others strains for me. but now that i did that, they are starting to fruit better and open up more. they end up turning black and looking kinda bacterial blotchish if you don't catch them quick enough or harvest them quick enough they will get bacterial blotch quicker than any other strain. but since i harvested half the tub, another half just popped up. also, when i get a thick flush, i have to take out at least one polyfil hole or i end up getting some fuzzy caps.

anyway, just to say something that not everything is as simple as some people post. yeah sure nice pictures and writeups help beginners but nothing is set in stone. it all depends on environmental differences and geographical locations may play part in all of this. where i am its an extremely humid environment already so this may be the difference. you would think i need less airflow but its the opposite. and it also may be that im using different tubs. for instance, i have these older iris 64 quart tubs that have more surface area than the other tubs. but the lids lock air tight. and the lids are the problem for me until i can drill larger holes. i currently have 1" holes and need to upgrade to 1.5" i had to actually take off the lids and put press n seal on the top and poke holes because i wasn't getting proper fae. i noticed because the mycelia looked singed in areas. i could see the areas that were getting good fae but for example i had a tex tub that wasn't. well i dunked for a 2nd flush and now i have it all dialed in properly and its exploding. so just remember, just because one person says this works perfectly doesn't mean its completely right for your situation. it may work for theirs but there are a number of different factors that effect the grows for your situation. and its about fine tuning your situation.


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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: eatyualive]
    #20638997 - 09/30/14 07:11 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

So, my tub has begun sprouting pins; however, they are only popping up on one side and it's only a couple of clusters. The rest of the tub has no pins/primordia.

The ones that have grown are already about 1.5 inches or so.

Will more pop up or is it possible the little clusters are all I'm going to get?

The tub is dialed in according to Frank's tek, I have the evaporation under the top holes and the rest of the tub is coated with humidity.


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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: tripdawg420]
    #20639152 - 09/30/14 08:24 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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what no one will lie about there grows on the internet:shrug:



:lol:

I like your post about tropical responses, cron.  Very informative.  I find PE likes to grow how ever it likes no matter where you put light, guessing it is because they have been tinkered with so much.

Sorry for off topic, Spit, I had to get in on this a little; I'm done now.  :tongue2:

By the way, did you ever upload any pics of how your tub in this thread turned out in the end?


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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: TheChief]
    #20641140 - 09/30/14 05:04 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: Alex Oxblood]
    #20641721 - 09/30/14 06:49 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

This is the rig I have going now. I moved my 2 tubs (2 days in fruiting conditions.) My small desk fan is about 10 feet from the closet door opening, set on a timer to blow for one hour every 6 hours. So 4 times a day. The 6500 k bulbs are on a 12/12 cycle.

I know its diff for everyone, but does anyone have any experience with this type of setup and whether or not the fan time is enough to dry them out? And what were your results?


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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: Alex Oxblood]
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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: Alex Oxblood]
    #20641869 - 09/30/14 07:18 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

that looks really good alex! still the dry rings around the bottom holes seems juuuuust a tiny bit large for my liking.
but if you're just patience and wait this out at least 10-14 days from initiating fruiting I could bet my dead grandma you'll see fruits!!

your setup is waay overkill but I get how you must feel after so much back and forth! now just make a ton of tubs and start stacking them! :lol:

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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: spacechildo]
    #20641982 - 09/30/14 07:43 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Cheers mate, you been there with me from day 1 and I appreciate your input.

So roughly 10-14 days after I took that tape off is the usual time it takes?

What parts of my setup are overkill?

Should I just ditch the fan completely?


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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: Alex Oxblood]
    #20642109 - 09/30/14 08:12 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

haha, no, I was thinking of your blue tarp setup.
It seems your agar cultures was good then! your tub looks healthy even from far away! :thumbup:

not to sound rude, but your first grain jars looked like shit compared to the nice white color of those tubs!!

its impossible for us to say if you need the fan or not, but judging by your dry rings it seems perfect for now!

if your substrate surface dries up just mist it, if it still shows some beads of moisture days from now just leave it be!
this would be a perfect time (or, 2-3 weeks ago would've :lol:) to make more agar and start a new batch!

how long has your tubs been in fruiting? 10 days is usually the time it takes for my tubs to start pinning. knotting idk, 2-3-4 days earlier. sometimes the pins just explode overnight!


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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: spacechildo]
    #20643355 - 10/01/14 06:45 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

That room was dirty as fuck. And the open attic crawlspace in the ceiling was no bueno.

So I tarped it.

I read something RR posted about after a 4th generation G2G, THE mycelium loses its vigor.

I noticed that its taking longer to colonize my jars, so I guess I gotta start some new dishes.

What are some tell-tale signs I'm either not getting enough/too much Fae?

I agree, my first runs were shitty looking, but I got all that stuff down now. Its the fruiting successfully part that I'm still tinkering with.

These have been fruiting sinse the 28th, but I was using natural light from my window. I just moved them into the closet last night with my 6500k bulbs

Only problem is, its hard to get enough airflow in there. (Or so I believe) hence the fan.


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