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SpitballJedi
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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: TheChief]
#20527930 - 09/06/14 10:29 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm waiting for my camera battery to charge. I'll post pics shortly.
There is a lot of knotting and a couple of pins. I started seeing some knots a couple days ago, but couldn't find my camera.
I noticed the sub was drying out a little around the bottom holes, so I turned off the fan and misted a little. It's recovering well. This tub also has ezmags instead of ironed polymags.
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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: SpitballJedi]
#20528144 - 09/06/14 11:20 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do you use loose poly on the top holes?
I've cased my tubs so I'm hoping drying out won't be an issue.
I started a new log, you can check it out here.
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jcbowling1985 said: "Additionally I did one Armageddon jar with all of the types together."
Edited by TheChief (09/06/14 11:30 AM)
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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: SpitballJedi]
#20528155 - 09/06/14 11:23 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Updated OP:
14 Days (6 days in fruiting) There is a lot of knotting and a couple of pins. I fist saw knots a couple of days ago. There was some drying around the bottom holes so I turned off my fan yesterday and misted. My apologies for the time gap, It's been a very busy week.
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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: SpitballJedi]
#20528159 - 09/06/14 11:24 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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ive done 4 tubs using CVG last night and this morning. i added a little coffee and some supercake forumala to all 4. two are in my new tubs with 1.5" holes. 2 are in my old 70-75 quart iris tubs. these are the best. the surface area is larger because the tubs are wider and longer. One tub has 3 holes on each side, the other tub has 3 holes on the long side, 1 on the short sides. all have 1" holes. i don't have the time to cut that many holes to update these tubs and im real lazy after working about 12 hours straight on spawn and bulk subs.
I am currently running F+, Tex Yellow Cap, R44, Thai Lipa Yai all with 5 quarts spawn to the ratio in this thread. which is pretty much the exact substrate volume i use anyway. so its very similar. id like to see if there is any difference in yield from the different tubs. i always found the old iris tubs i have had the best yield because there was so much more surface area for fruiting. the tubs are also taller. in incubation where i can set 2 of my other sterilites, only 1 iris tub fits. they are big fuckers. i also even cut the liner for shits and giggles. but i have to say, it was a pain in the ass cutting the liner and left my tub open longer than i normally let it stay open. i know i hear oh adding a lid to this or doing this is adding another vector for contamination. that could also be said about cutting the liner as well as adding box tape to hold the liner in.
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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: eatyualive]
#20528237 - 09/06/14 11:48 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm thinking about getting a bigger tub for more surface area too.
Fully colonized spawn and properly pasteurized substrate, or CVG, is pretty contam resistant.
Contamination resistance of CVG is a big selling point for me. Super cake and coffee may produce higher and/or faster yields, maybe, but CVG is so easy to prep and so contam resistant. It really fits my lifestyle.
Soon, I'll try super cake in my sub. If I have to properly pasteurize it though, it'll be a no go. I really don't want to have to mess with it.
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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: SpitballJedi]
#20528250 - 09/06/14 11:51 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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So what ratio is this tek?
looks like 1:1 but i didnt see mention of how much CVG goes into this, or did you just use the whole recipe from the previous tek
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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: pawnzy]
#20528277 - 09/06/14 11:56 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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SpitballJedi said: This is part of my series "The Basics" I will be mixing Rye Grain Spawn with CVG in a monotub.
First, I pour in my already prepared bulk substrate, in this case CVG. Then I pour in my spawn. I'm using 5 quart size jars, about 5/8 to 3/4 full, of GT for this write-up. My spawn has been dunked. This all goes in the monotub.
I'll update the OP to make it a little more clear.
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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: SpitballJedi]
#20528287 - 09/06/14 11:57 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
SpitballJedi said: I will be mixing Rye Grain Spawn with CVG in a monotub.
I didn't have any problem finding the recipe from your OP.
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jcbowling1985 said: "Additionally I did one Armageddon jar with all of the types together."
Edited by TheChief (09/06/14 11:59 AM)
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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: SpitballJedi]
#20528310 - 09/06/14 12:03 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
SpitballJedi said:
First, I pour in my already prepared bulk substrate, in this case CVG. Then I pour in my spawn. I'm using 5 quart size jars, about 5/8 to 3/4 full, of GT and about 10 quarts of CVG for this write-up, that's about 2:1 sub:spawn. My spawn has been dunked. This all goes in the monotub.
I updated the OP to make it a little more clear.
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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: TheChief]
#20528324 - 09/06/14 12:06 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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1 tub is 5 quarts of spawn to 15 quarts of substrate(when i expanded mine with the two quarts of verm and the small brick of eco earth it comes out to this for me)
1:3 ratio. spawn to substrate by volume.
i also added 2 cups gypsum, 1 cup supercake and about 1/2 cup used coffee grounds. that may make mine a little different. its a higher spawn ratio than i normally use.
Edited by eatyualive (09/06/14 12:07 PM)
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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: eatyualive]
#20528492 - 09/06/14 12:59 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Second time ive seen the word supercake in an hour. wtf is that yo
also thanks for clarifying ratios
Edited by pawnzy (09/06/14 01:00 PM)
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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: pawnzy]
#20528530 - 09/06/14 01:05 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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check his sig: Click 4 Eat's Reference Guide 
lots of stuff there I bet you've never seen before! It sure left me for a minute 
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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: spacechildo]
#20528584 - 09/06/14 01:19 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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also the substrate was packed loosely. id imagine if it were packed tight into the measuring quart it would be about 10 quarts like spitball is saying. loose though its about 15 total for me. i actually measured exactly this time. and i put 4 quarts perfectly with room to spare into each turkey tin that i use for pasteurization. two tubs =16 quarts for me.
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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: spacechildo]
#20528647 - 09/06/14 01:43 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
spacechildo said: check his sig: Click 4 Eat's Reference Guide 
lots of stuff there I bet you've never seen before! It sure left me for a minute  
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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: pawnzy]
#20532336 - 09/07/14 09:12 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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spj, im posting this because i followed your tek. if you want me to remove it out of the thread let me know.
this is day 2 after a spawn session using CVG/supercake formula/coffee 5 quarts spawn
R44
TLY

im lucky i got these pictures my camera is junking out on me again. this is the 3rd time this same model has done the same exact error with the lense error. i love the camera but damn im going to have to use another brand.
Edited by eatyualive (09/07/14 09:14 AM)
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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: eatyualive]
#20532338 - 09/07/14 09:14 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looks good to me
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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: SpitballJedi] 1
#20532350 - 09/07/14 09:18 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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this gypsum has a fishy smell to it. reminds me of the smell of organic kelp meal. very similar smell. the supercake addition makes it smell like coconut. so this substrate smells like fishy coconuts lmao!
Edited by eatyualive (09/07/14 09:18 AM)
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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: SpitballJedi]
#20533070 - 09/07/14 11:53 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Spit, what do you have on your top holes?
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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: TheChief]
#20533128 - 09/07/14 12:07 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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very loose polly
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Re: Spawning to Bulk and Fruiting [Re: SpitballJedi]
#20541626 - 09/09/14 05:07 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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sbj,
what is your normal timing to put tubs into fruiting. i see your doing day 8. i do something very similar. is this always consistent by +/- a day?
most of the pictures from day 8 till day 16 will look very similar i see no point in posting every day by day once its in fruiting. go straight to pins! its hard taking pictures everyday.
Edited by eatyualive (09/09/14 05:09 AM)
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