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bodhisatta
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: mushboy]
#24834117 - 12/08/17 03:06 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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There's nothing risky about coir in the first place lol
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flyhighfunguy
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: mushboy]
#24834123 - 12/08/17 03:08 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Is there any negatives to sterilizing or do you think its best to be on the safe side and sterilize it?
Edited by flyhighfunguy (12/08/17 03:09 PM)
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mushboy
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: bodhisatta]
#24834125 - 12/08/17 03:10 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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i only sterilize to store it. sometimes i find myself only needing to spawn a small amount. so i sterilize the rest in bags so i can use it on the fly either way. coco coir is awesome. i wish i grew coconuts.
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flyhighfunguy
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: mushboy]
#24834131 - 12/08/17 03:13 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh ok good to know, i guess im gonna try the bucket tek then. Definitely seems like the easiest way.
Are coir and vermiculite both pretty contam resistant? Because ive heard many people mention that coir doesnt require pasterizing but nothing about vermiculite.
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mushboy
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coir is like a reptiles cat litter. verm is a rock. mold will grow on coco but it doesnt seem to germinate. hence the importance of clean spawn.
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SpitballJedi
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Update to OP.
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This tek is pretty much overkill if you are using CVG. However, it can also be used for bulk pasteurization.
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Tron3557
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: mushboy]
#25427492 - 08/31/18 11:55 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Is it possible to prepare this in advance? After some research i realized my rye grain jars arent quite fully colonized (soo close). For example, could I store this away for a week and use it then? I prepared it exactly to the recipe so it is not sterilized.
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13shrooms
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: Tron3557]
#25427781 - 09/01/18 04:47 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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yes.. just check your moisture levels for field capacity b4 using.
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Tron3557
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: 13shrooms]
#25432937 - 09/03/18 12:43 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Great, thank you. I dont need to be concerned with bacterial growth? Whats the best way to go about checking moisture levels?
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gaiafriend
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: bodhisatta]
#25555509 - 10/21/18 01:29 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Could someone please tell me how much sub this makes. I need 2 quarts of this and trying as a noob to figure out if it will be enough. Plus we dont use quarts over here lol.
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Timehole
Registered: 04/28/12
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: gaiafriend]
#25555571 - 10/21/18 01:58 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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This recipe makes around 10 quarts, most bricks of coir are about 650g and expand to approximately 7-9 quarts. So perhaps just use a quarter of the recipe to get around 2 quarts, you could probably use a lot less gypsum too.
"2% to 3% by dry weight or just add a tablespoon or two of gypsum to the amount of coir to fill a small tray." -RR
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bodhisatta
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: Timehole]
#25555621 - 10/21/18 02:19 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Your coir should say how much it expands. Then add your verm if you wana use that stuff.
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gaiafriend
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: bodhisatta]
#25555696 - 10/21/18 02:46 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks guys, ok cool ill go for quarter of the recipe :-) it will be used with 8 half pint grated brf cakes does that sound about right ratio wise?
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Timehole
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: gaiafriend]
#25555775 - 10/21/18 03:21 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's a 1:1 ratio with 2 quarts of sub. It's not an exact science but that will work well. I'd personally recommend 1:2 but it's all about finding what works for you. Anything between 1:1 to 1:4 works well, some people stretch their spawn even farther.
Best of luck!
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gaiafriend
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: Timehole]
#25556978 - 10/22/18 04:46 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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1.2 ratio? Ok i will try that sorry for seeming ignorant but would you mean double the amount of sub to 4 quarts for my 8 cakes?
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Timehole
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: gaiafriend]
#25557587 - 10/22/18 10:49 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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1:2 = 1 part spawn to 2 parts substrate, so yeah that's correct.
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gaiafriend
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: Timehole]
#25557855 - 10/22/18 01:09 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks, one more thing just out of curiosity. When applying the 1:2 ratio would you measure it by volume or weight? For instance once ive cooked and hydrated my cvg to get an exact measurement would i weigh or measure mass?
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Timehole
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: gaiafriend]
#25557914 - 10/22/18 01:31 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Happy to help, the substrate ratio is by volume.
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SumFunGi
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Can I use this spawn to bulk tek with BRF inoculated cakes?
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mushboy
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Re: How Spitball Prepares CVG [Re: SumFunGi]
#25641407 - 11/26/18 09:32 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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yes you can!
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