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how long?
    #2046797 - 10/27/03 09:47 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

how long can pf-tek jars last before adding the spores? how long will it be sterile is prolly what i'm asking.



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Re: how long? [Re: Gunnthier]
    #2046800 - 10/27/03 09:49 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

A while. They should stay sterile if they're in still air; the problem is they'll dry out after some time (usually longer than a month or two.)

Keeping them out means they're sterile if they don't get contaminated; you can tell this better than if you were to inoculate them right away.

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Re: how long? [Re: micro]
    #2047854 - 10/27/03 05:44 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

yea, i just need to store it for about a week until i get my spore syringes. should i refridgerate it? also, how do i store spore syringes and how long do they last stored?


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Re: how long? [Re: Gunnthier]
    #2047880 - 10/27/03 05:53 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

pf jars they ferment and if they ferment before they start colonizing they wont colonize! happend to me many times


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Re: how long? [Re: zPhar]
    #2047889 - 10/27/03 05:55 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

after I made the jars and sterilized them I let them for little over a week and they fermented and whent bad and dint colonize none of them


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Re: how long? [Re: zPhar]
    #2047911 - 10/27/03 06:01 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Fermentation would happen because of yeast -- a contaminant. If yeast gets ahold it will *severely* compete with the mushroom mycelium. Refrigerating will help to keep down competitors, but if you're doing everything "sterilly" you should not have these problems. Refigerating jars will decrease the amount of competitors that will take hold during the waiting period before you inoculate your jars.

It's always best, of course, to inoculate right after cooling, unless you need an environmental control (if your jars get contaminated while sitting in the air they *are not* sterile.)

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Re: how long? [Re: micro]
    #2048071 - 10/27/03 07:06 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

thanks, my jars will stay sterile. so should i make the jars right when i get the spore syringes (do it all at once)? would that eliminate any hassel of causing a bad colonized garden?


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Re: how long? [Re: Gunnthier]
    #2048486 - 10/27/03 10:18 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

refridgarators dehumidify, so they might dry out your jars, after sterilization my friend stored his at room temp in plastic ziplocs with all the air sucked out of them before sealing closed, and they sat for around 2 weeks, they colonized just fine.


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