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Re: Bible Evidence That Jesus is Satan, Praise Jesus = Hail Satan [Re: endogenous]
    #20446503 - 08/20/14 01:31 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

endogenous said:
To those who accept Them, They are Heaven.

To those who reject Them, They are Hell.




This has an intuitive ring to it... but who knows?

Quote:

Eckhart saw Hell too. He said: The only thing that burns in Hell is the part of you that won't let go of life, your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they're not punishing you, he said. They're freeing your soul. So, if you're frightened of dying and... and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the earth.



--Jacob's Ladder


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We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.


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Re: Bible Evidence That Jesus is Satan, Praise Jesus = Hail Satan [Re: Icelander]
    #20447270 - 08/20/14 08:42 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Icelander said:
I am willing to dispute claims of absolute knowledge of this or that particular type of creator.



:kaneclap:


"The Tao that can be spoken is not the eternal Tao
The name that can be named is not the eternal name
The nameless is the origin of Heaven and Earth
The named is the mother of myriad things
Thus, constantly without desire, one observes its essence
Constantly with desire, one observes its manifestations"
-Lao Tzu


Here is my interpretation of the above:

If you speak of God, you are speaking of human mind.
You cannot name God, names are of human mind.
Nothingness is the essence of God.
Naming(labeling) is the cause of your separation.
Without desire, you can sense the essence of yourself(God)
With desire, you see only the world of 'things'.

Relevant:

"The usefulness of a cup is in it's emptiness"
-Bruce Lee

"Thirty spokes join in one hub
In its emptiness, there is the function of a vehicle
Mix clay to create a container
In its emptiness, there is the function of a container
Cut open doors and windows to create a room
In its emptiness, there is the function of a room:"
-Lao Tzu


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¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Edited by Tmethyl (08/20/14 08:49 AM)


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Re: Bible Evidence That Jesus is Satan, Praise Jesus = Hail Satan [Re: cez]
    #20447537 - 08/20/14 10:09 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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cez said:
I'm curious to read this progression if you'd be willing to elaborate...:popcorn:



I think if I began at the beginning of my spiritual story and told it through it would be book length. I can try to give a abstract of myself or a synopsis at some point, but probably not the full autobiography.


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And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,


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Re: Bible Evidence That Jesus is Satan, Praise Jesus = Hail Satan [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #20447598 - 08/20/14 10:28 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

The more you learn the less you know.



:lol:


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Re: Bible Evidence That Jesus is Satan, Praise Jesus = Hail Satan [Re: deCypher]
    #20448094 - 08/20/14 12:32 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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deCypher said:
Quote:

endogenous said:
To those who accept Them, They are Heaven.

To those who reject Them, They are Hell.




This has an intuitive ring to it... but who knows?






The Light of God reveals the Truth.

For the honest, this is Joy.

For the dishonest, this is disaster.

And this is the sentence of condemnation, that the Light has entered the world and yet people have preferred darkness to Light. It is because their actions have been evil; for anyone whose practices are corrupt loathes the Light and will not come out into Them, in case their actions are exposed, whereas anyone whose life is true comes out into the Light, to make it plain that their actons have been divinely prompted.  – St. John 3,19


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Re: Bible Evidence That Jesus is Satan, Praise Jesus = Hail Satan [Re: Tmethyl]
    #20450911 - 08/20/14 09:10 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Tmethyl said:
Quote:

Icelander said:
I am willing to dispute claims of absolute knowledge of this or that particular type of creator.



:kaneclap:


"The Tao that can be spoken is not the eternal Tao
The name that can be named is not the eternal name
The nameless is the origin of Heaven and Earth
The named is the mother of myriad things
Thus, constantly without desire, one observes its essence
Constantly with desire, one observes its manifestations"
-Lao Tzu


Here is my interpretation of the above:

If you speak of God, you are speaking of human mind.
You cannot name God, names are of human mind.
Nothingness is the essence of God.
Naming(labeling) is the cause of your separation.
Without desire, you can sense the essence of yourself(God)
With desire, you see only the world of 'things'.

Relevant:

"The usefulness of a cup is in it's emptiness"
-Bruce Lee

"Thirty spokes join in one hub
In its emptiness, there is the function of a vehicle
Mix clay to create a container
In its emptiness, there is the function of a container
Cut open doors and windows to create a room
In its emptiness, there is the function of a room:"
-Lao Tzu




"You should know and not believe."
-Bob Marley


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The hotter the battle, the sweeter Jah victory.
Put the heathen's back upon the wall.


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Re: Bible Evidence That Jesus is Satan, Praise Jesus = Hail Satan [Re: LittleDaddy]
    #20451720 - 08/20/14 11:52 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah little daddy :thumbup: 

Oregon rocks.  The Steens are going to be lovely in about three weeks.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Bible Evidence That Jesus is Satan, Praise Jesus = Hail Satan [Re: Icelander]
    #20451810 - 08/21/14 12:08 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Born & raised! Never been farther east than Klamath falls, though;
What makes you say that about the Steens?
Pretty hot up north! Waiting for a little wet weather :wink:


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The hotter the battle, the sweeter Jah victory.
Put the heathen's back upon the wall.


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Re: Bible Evidence That Jesus is Satan, Praise Jesus = Hail Satan [Re: LittleDaddy]
    #20451876 - 08/21/14 12:21 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Fall in the High Desert mountains is pretty amazing. Warm days (not hot)  cool nights (not yet really cold) The aspens are golden and the people are gone. On a bright sunny fall day at 10,000 feet you feel like you own the world.  It's truly beautiful.  The Trout Creek and Pueblo Mts. are stellar also and even more lonely.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: Bible Evidence That Jesus is Satan, Praise Jesus = Hail Satan [Re: Icelander]
    #20452382 - 08/21/14 03:21 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

All you have to do is tune into the presence of God and you can experience joy. The more you turn away from Presence, the more you open yourself to misery, because God is the source of all that is good.

Many people think God is evil because he "punishes" people but looked at another way, those people are punishing themselves by turning away from goodness. If you stop eating and begin to starve to death, does that make God evil because you are suffering? Apparently so, because in reality, most people starve themselves to death spiritually and then God is given the blame for their pain.


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Re: Bible Evidence That Jesus is Satan, Praise Jesus = Hail Satan [Re: Deviate] * 2
    #20452942 - 08/21/14 07:49 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

What absolute nonsense imo.  Much suffering of children and adults is in no way a choice they make. 

IMO from reading many of  your posts you are not the poster boy for joy.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Bible Evidence That Jesus is Satan, Praise Jesus = Hail Satan [Re: Deviate]
    #20453135 - 08/21/14 09:15 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Deviate said:
All you have to do is tune into the presence of God and you can experience joy. The more you turn away from Presence, the more you open yourself to misery, because God is the source of all that is good.

Many people think God is evil because he "punishes" people but looked at another way, those people are punishing themselves by turning away from goodness. If you stop eating and begin to starve to death, does that make God evil because you are suffering? Apparently so, because in reality, most people starve themselves to death spiritually and then God is given the blame for their pain.



I don't know what religion you are but by the sound of it you believe in a universal monotheistic god of some kind. And that is the kicker because people often take your position of a loving God and love for "whosoever" when the reality of the scriptures speak of fire and torture for people who commit the thought crime of believing something different.

You can take a good buddhist or a good muslim from India and because they live their life as a good person always willing to do their best and treat others with respect and in the same way they themselves would want to be treated your "loving" god would damn them to eternal hell for it and you wonder why people think your God is a evil or a demonic monster...


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And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,


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Re: Bible Evidence That Jesus is Satan, Praise Jesus = Hail Satan [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #20453186 - 08/21/14 09:36 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

:loveintheair:  :loveintheair:


:ilold: and :hehehe: :hehehe: so mush now.


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Re: Bible Evidence That Jesus is Satan, Praise Jesus = Hail Satan [Re: Icelander]
    #20453277 - 08/21/14 10:08 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Icelander said:
Fall in the High Desert mountains is pretty amazing. Warm days (not hot)  cool nights (not yet really cold) The aspens are golden and the people are gone. On a bright sunny fall day at 10,000 feet you feel like you own the world.  It's truly beautiful.  The Trout Creek and Pueblo Mts. are stellar also and even more lonely.




Beautiful description. Autumn up here is just as gorgeous; in a different way. Oregon's biome diversity is wonderful.

Why would a being that transcends everything affiliate himself with a word and the corruption of a label? Furthermore, I find the idea that this god is a male to be an example of how ignorant it is to believe in "Him". Of course this god can't be a female.


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The hotter the battle, the sweeter Jah victory.
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Re: Bible Evidence That Jesus is Satan, Praise Jesus = Hail Satan [Re: LittleDaddy]
    #20453284 - 08/21/14 10:11 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Given that the 'Crazy Diamond' is a boy child I don't see why not.


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