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Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (Pics) 1
#2042044 - 10/25/03 01:55 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Note: I don't grow any more, so don't ask me for shrooms.
Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber. Click Pics For Close Ups. This setup uses a precision humidistat instead of a timer to manage humidity. Works better because the amount of humidity required is a function of the room temperature and humidity. A timer is a best guess.
A Full House. This is a four-level greenhouse holding a variety of casings.

Give 'em light! I usually open the curtains for a while every day, but sometimes I can't so this light is on a timer. A few minutes a day is all the mushrooms need. More doesn't hurt though.

Add humidity. This ultrasonic humidifier works well and is on a precision humidistat. You can see the humidistat mounted to the greenhouse frame just above the center of the pic. It was calibrated with a very accurate sling psychrometer from Fungi Perfecti. It's set for 92% and I modified it so it's gives very tight control of humidity with a hysteresis of +-2%. I have found that timers don't work well for managing humidity because the environment outside the fruiting chamber can change the humidity requirements inside. I use only distilled water to cut down on deposits forming on the transducer and other components of the humidifier. A hose pipes the mist into the fruiting chamber.

Closeup of humidifier-hose attachment.

Another closeup of the hose

Another view of the hose routing.

Distribute the humidity evenly and add fresh air several times a day. There are two fans; one is fully enclosed inside the environment and runs synchronously with the humidifier so the mist is quickly dissipated and distributed throughout the environment. This keeps things from getting waterlogged by too much mist. Notice the humidifier exhaust hose in the upper right corner. The mist comes out of there and the fan immediately evaporates it into vapor so no little water droplets can soak anything.
The second fan is on a timer and is vented to the outside so it brings in fresh air and removes CO2 which can impede pinning. The humidifier hose is visible in the upper-right of the picture.

Monitor the environment. This is just a simple hygrometer/thermometer combo used to keep an eye on things.

Close up of results.

Closers still...

Another close up of some fatties. The rightmost two alone were over 80 grams wet.
Here they are dried a few days after harvest.

First flush.

By popular demand, here's a pic of the incubator. There's a jug of water on the left with a 200 watt aquarium heater set to 85F. Notice also the small box fan which circulates the air in the incubator to keep the temperature consistent throughout the environment. Without this fan, some jars get hotter than others due to temperature stratification in the air and the mycelium's metabolism. The white wrapping around the incubator is a goose-down comforter for insulation.

Closeup of the incubator fan and heater assembly. Note the white wire. It's a remote thermistor so I can monitor the temperature without having to open the incubator.

Cool, eh? 
Edit: Added some more pics.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber [Re: Diploid]
#2042055 - 10/25/03 02:01 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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that is a fuckin beautiful setup, i envy you
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber [Re: Diploid]
#2042062 - 10/25/03 02:03 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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beautiful set up
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber [Re: fungusflip]
#2042075 - 10/25/03 02:09 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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My sweet sweet GOD! If any of my friends or pets ever achieve anything like this in anyway, they can retire. Beautiful.. simply beautiful.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber [Re: ShrooomKing]
#2042229 - 10/25/03 03:03 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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That doesnt look too hard at all to creat. just shelving wrapped in plastic... in the spring(if I want to grow a quanity) I may try something like that.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber [Re: ShrooomKing]
#2042230 - 10/25/03 03:03 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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simply amazing
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: Diploid]
#2042254 - 10/25/03 03:14 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd like to hear a little more about the precision humidistat. So it detects the humidity in the chamber and then the humidifier knows how much humidity to let out? Is that correct? You say they're expensive. How much did your friend pay for his?
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: kosmic_charlie]
#2042298 - 10/25/03 03:30 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd like to hear a little more about the precision humidistat. So it detects the humidity in the chamber and then the humidifier knows how much humidity to let out? Is that correct? You say they're expensive. How much did your friend pay for his?
That's right. A humidistat is to humidity what a thermostat is to temperature. I modified the humidistat to tighten the hysteresis to +-2%. Normally, it's too wide (like 8%) to control the humidity within a sufficiently narrow range. The device costs several hundred dollars, unfortunately.
Also, it's important to use a fan to distribute the atomized water from the ultrasonic or it will settle and waterlog everything. The other fan is just on a timer and brings in fresh air periodically independent of the humidity.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: Diploid]
#2042334 - 10/25/03 03:44 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Where does the CO2 exit the chamber? Your friend has a fan blowing outside air in but there is no mention of a fan that blows air out. I'm very impressed my this growing chamber by the way.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: Diploid]
#2042336 - 10/25/03 03:45 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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What is the plastic surrounding the grow chamber? Did you just buy sheets of plastic and wrap it? I can't figure out how you did it, so I just thought I'd ask.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: MycoCat]
#2042343 - 10/25/03 03:48 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Superb. Props.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: Zwieback0]
#2042375 - 10/25/03 03:59 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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nice work....beautiful shrooms.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: kosmic_charlie]
#2045830 - 10/26/03 09:28 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Where does the CO2 exit the chamber? Your friend has a fan blowing outside air in but there is no mention of a fan that blows air out. I'm very impressed my this growing chamber by the way.
There are some strategically placed one-way holes that let air out to compensate for the fan bringing fresh air in.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: MycoCat]
#2045840 - 10/26/03 09:31 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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What is the plastic surrounding the grow chamber? Did you just buy sheets of plastic and wrap it? I can't figure out how you did it, so I just thought I'd ask.
That's a commercially available greenhouse (PM me for a link if you're interested). It comes complete with shelves, plastic cover, and zipper. I made a hole in the plastic to mount the humidistat to the frame and a few other holes for the fans, exhaust, and humidifier hose.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: Diploid]
#2045853 - 10/26/03 09:38 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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AMAZING!!!!!!
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: niteowl]
#2045862 - 10/26/03 09:40 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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So where do you get lal that bulk substrate!?
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: SixCee]
#2045878 - 10/26/03 09:47 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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So where do you get lal that bulk substrate!?
Those are quart jars of (usually) rye, sometimes millet or WBS. Those incubate for a while and are cased in the greenhouse or spawned to some other substrate.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: Diploid]
#2045881 - 10/26/03 09:49 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wow that is alot of jars! Maybe your friend should look into bulk.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: SixCee]
#2045931 - 10/26/03 10:11 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wow that is alot of jars! Maybe your friend should look into bulk.
His last batch was straw, but this time he cased straight grain. He'll probably spawn to straw again next time... depends...
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: Diploid]
#2045999 - 10/26/03 10:48 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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...with his killer casing recipe.
Thanks for answering all my q's so far. What casing recipe does your friend use?
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: Diploid]
#2046110 - 10/26/03 11:39 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thats a very nice setup your friend has there.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: MrMaddHatter]
#2046734 - 10/27/03 06:25 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Skippy runs a similar set up.
Auto mister & fan but without the humidity control. He monitors with Hygrometers too. It does maintain around 97% accurately. Diploid....you are so right the humidity does fluctuate in the chamber when it changes outside but he has not noticed any considerable major diference though in his first flushes. Only his others
Diploid how are the 2nd 3rd flushes? Have you noticed any increase or better pin sets wiht this super accurate set up?
That might be where Skip is going wrong
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: NewSpore]
#2047002 - 10/27/03 10:08 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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man i got's to get me a digi cam so i can throw up some of what my fish has been doing.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: kosmic_charlie]
#2047125 - 10/27/03 10:49 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for answering all my q's so far.
No problem Kosmic; I'm happy to help!
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What casing recipe does your friend use?
OK. I don't think the specific casing material really makes a huge difference, but over time I've converged on the following recipe which works very well for my gourmet and medicinal mushrooms. 
First, I start off with a 33/33/33 mix of peat/verm/coir. I like the peat because it's so dammed airy and fluffy when moistened just right. The verm provides moisture, and the coir provides more moisture and contributes to the airiness. It also distinctly changes color when dry, so I get a really good visual indicator of when it's time to mist without having to touch the casing.
Next, I add 15% by volume crushed oyster shells. As mycelium metabolism progresses, it releases acids that drive the pH of the casing down. The crushed oyster shells both add a rough, open texture to the casing, and over time, they dissolve and gently counter the mycelium's acid secretions. They help to stabilize (buffer) the casing's pH.
The next thing I add to the casing material is 5% by volume diatomaceous earth to keep any flies, worms, eggs, and miscellaneous bugs from making a home in my casings. DE is the fossilized skeletons of siliceous marine and fresh water organisms, particularly diatoms and other algae. These skeletons are made of hydrated amorphous silica or opal. The particles are actually very tiny, sharp shards so small that the material feels like talcum powder. This is easily picked up by the hairy bodies of most insects where it scratches through their body causing a rapid loss of moisture; the insects dry up and die.
DE is harmless to humans, though I'd avoid breathing it, and is frequently added to grain on farms to protect it from insects. You can get it at any well-stocked aquarium store; it's used to filter water.
Once all those dry ingredients are mixed well, I spray on enough water to thoroughly moisten but not quite reach field capacity. It takes a really hard squeeze to get a drop of water.
At this point, I measure the pH with a pH meter. The peat will normally drop the pH below optimum, which for cubies is 6.8 to 7.2. I add a tiny bit of hydrated lime (.25 teaspoon/liter of casing) and measure the pH again. I repeat until the pH reaches about 7.5. This is slightly out of the optimal range, but the mycelium quickly drives the pH down into the optimal range even with the buffering provided by the crushed oyster shells. Be careful with hydrated lime. It's very strong and a tiny amount will go a long way. It will also cause you a lot of grief if you get it on your hands and touch your eyes. Treat it with respect! You can also use limestone flour; it's far less potent so you'll have to use more to get the same effect on the pH. By the way, don't ever use dolomitic lime. It has too-high a concentration of magnesium which has been shown to retard pin formation.
When I'm happy with the pH and moisture, I pasteurize for a few minutes in the microwave in case there were some undetected little critters in my peat, then I let it cool, check the moisture and pH one last time, and case.
Hope this makes sense...
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: NewSpore]
#2047137 - 10/27/03 10:55 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Diploid how are the 2nd 3rd flushes? Have you noticed any increase or better pin sets wiht this super accurate set up?
The second and third flushes are lower-yielding, but the mushrooms seem to be more potent. For dosing consistency, my friend homogenizes all the grows into one big batch. That way, any given mass of mushrooms will always contain about the same mass of alkaloids.
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That might be where Skip is going wrong
I dunno. Tell me more about your grow. What substrate, how do you formulate your casing material, how deep are the layers, how often do you fan and mist??
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: Diploid]
#2047172 - 10/27/03 11:12 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Good post on the casing. Skippy has been playing with peat too. As far as the crushed oyster shell that might have something to do with it. Skippy has to start adding that....
average depth 3-4" cased 60/40 mister runs 14 times per day 10 minutes per cycle keeping it a 95-97% RH fan runs 4 times a day 2 miutes per cycle
Pastuerized poo mostly.. Recently a new super secret mad scientist mixed substrate that he is planing on creating a Tek in the next few weeks and will post the play by play then.

Average first flush but 2nds and 3rds are nothing to brag about....
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: Diploid]
#2053651 - 10/29/03 12:57 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for such an informative post on your casing practices. You've given me some really ideas.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: kosmic_charlie]
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: tekramrepus]
#2083096 - 11/08/03 03:20 AM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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lookin good, diploid.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: automan]
#2083253 - 11/08/03 05:44 AM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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damm....i am speachless, to think this all started with jars and any kind of heat source and now it is to the point of fully automated chambers, thats great man
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: Diploid]
#2199606 - 12/24/03 11:07 AM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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nice setup
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (Pics) [Re: Diploid]
#2200641 - 12/25/03 02:56 AM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have a few brief questions:
How is the internal fan synchronized to the humidifier? (Is it triggered by the humidistat controller as well, or ?)
Is there any form of filtration to reduce contaminants/air-born particles entering via the fan intake or the C02 exhaust holes that were cut in the plastic? Or is a clean room and robust substrate/casing sufficient?
Has thermostatic control been added as well, and if not, what, if any steps have been made at temperature control?
Very informative post, thank you!
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: kosmic_charlie]
#2200887 - 12/25/03 11:43 AM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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That fan that you have inside the chanber, is it designed for high humidity? If not, Have you had to replace it yet? Ive b een interested in finding a small fan that is built for high humidity.
Did that ultrasonic come with a fan or did you rig something to push the air?
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (Pics) [Re: bowling-name]
#2204511 - 12/27/03 06:39 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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How is the internal fan synchronized to the humidifier? (Is it triggered by the humidistat controller as well, or ?)
There are two fans, one is on the same circuit as the humidifier and is triggered by the humidistat. Its purpose is to diffuse the mist from the humidifier so that things don't get wet or waterlogged inside the chamber. It simply circulates the air and mist without introducing any outside air.
The second fan is on a timer. It runs for 15 minutes every four hours. Its purpose is to introduce fresh air and remove CO2 from the chamber. This one's intake is vented to the outside with a simple air conditioner filter to keep out gross contaminants. There's no need for a fancy HEPA filter at this stage because the casings are fairly well able to take care of themselves.
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Is there any form of filtration to reduce contaminants/air-born particles entering via the fan intake or the C02 exhaust holes that were cut in the plastic? Or is a clean room and robust substrate/casing sufficient?
Just an AC filter from the supermarket. The exhaust holes are covered with a flap of plastic to form a one-way valve. When the ventilation fan times in, the pressure in the chamber pushes open the flap to allow the air to escape; when the fan stops, the flap prevents any dirt from coming back in.
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Has thermostatic control been added as well, and if not, what, if any steps have been made at temperature control?
No. I experimented with a refrigeration system, but in the end it was more trouble than it was worth. The room the chamber lives in dips to about 70F at night and rises to about 75F in the day; that's close enough to optimal that I haven't found a need to control the temperature more tightly.
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Very informative post, thank you!
I'm glad you liked it!
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: mickywilliams2]
#2204527 - 12/27/03 06:46 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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That fan that you have inside the chanber, is it designed for high humidity? If not, Have you had to replace it yet? Ive b een interested in finding a small fan that is built for high humidity.
It's just a regular fan. I was worried initially that the high humidity might cause problems, but it's been running for a while now with no trouble. There's very little condensation inside, though, due to the use of the diffusing fan on the humidifier outlet, and that might be why the fans are working so well.
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Did that ultrasonic come with a fan or did you rig something to push the air?
Both fans are rigged. One on a timer, the other on the humidistat with the humidifier.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: Diploid]
#2204696 - 12/27/03 08:20 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thats some amazing stuff. Has anyone found a cheaper way to make an auto-humidistat ? I have a decent amount of soldering skill just wondering if there is anyway to make the equivilant without dropping most of my paycheck.
Thamks again for all the info.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (Pics) [Re: Diploid]
#2210386 - 12/30/03 05:26 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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great, your information and pics are just what i was searching for. i'm just trying to get a greenhouse like yours here in germany, but i didn't find one yet... but you gave me a lot of ideas i can use when i have one... great setup!
i have a question about the light: your light comes from the side. don't the shrooms grow to the direction where the light comes from? yours are all growing upwards...
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (Pics) [Re: Diploid]
#2210933 - 12/30/03 11:43 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nice set up. Thanks for the detail and ideas.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (Pics) [Re: Diploid]
#2211857 - 12/31/03 01:06 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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What are the actual dimensions of the greenhouse? I have found it online, but I need to know if it will fit where I want to put it. Particularly, I need to know Heighth and depth. Thanks.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (Pics) [Re: ConioConceboias]
#2216834 - 01/03/04 02:41 PM (20 years, 29 days ago) |
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Quote:
your light comes from the side. don't the shrooms grow to the direction where the light comes from? yours are all growing upwards...
Shrooms do grow toward the source of light, but that only happens with prolonged exposure to light. In this case, the light is only on for about 30 minutes a day. That's more than enough to trigger pinning if all the other conditions are right, but it's not enough to cause phototropic (toward the light) growth.
So, the net effect is that the mushrooms get most of their growth direction cues from gravity rather than from light.
A lot of novice mushroom growers obsess over lighting, but it's been demonstrated that even a few milliseconds of fairly dim light per day is enough to trigger pinning.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (Pics) [Re: Pikalo99]
#2216843 - 01/03/04 02:49 PM (20 years, 29 days ago) |
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What are the actual dimensions of the greenhouse?
Fully assembled, it measures 64.5" high, 28" wide, and 19.5" deep. There's a two-level version that's half as high.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (Pics) [Re: Diploid]
#2216871 - 01/03/04 03:13 PM (20 years, 29 days ago) |
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Pimp shit dude.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: Diploid]
#2217497 - 01/03/04 09:57 PM (20 years, 29 days ago) |
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why are precision humidstats so expensive? i imagine they could be a hygrometer with an on/off toggle...
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (Pics) [Re: Diploid]
#2226295 - 01/07/04 03:12 PM (20 years, 25 days ago) |
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So how'd you cover the bottom of it. Mine leaves the bottom open completely, after assembly.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (Pics) [Re: Pikalo99]
#2240302 - 01/13/04 08:28 PM (20 years, 19 days ago) |
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So how'd you cover the bottom of it. Mine leaves the bottom open completely, after assembly.
Mine leaves the bottom open as well. I took a heavy trash bag and carefully taped it all along the bottom using packing tape. At the front, I cut a flap to get access to the zippers. It's a pain to do this because the tape is very aggressive, but if you're careful and take your time, it will seal fairly well. Mine hasn't needed to be replaced and it's been working for a while now.
Good luck!
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: Diploid]
#2240400 - 01/13/04 09:00 PM (20 years, 19 days ago) |
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WOW. Thats a nice setup and great looking shrooms. I wish i could get something like that going.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: automan]
#2342980 - 02/16/04 07:28 PM (19 years, 11 months ago) |
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wow man, I'm quite impressed...
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: nife]
#2555574 - 04/13/04 04:23 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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well the theory for an "auto-humidistat" is definately easy, but one whould have to be able to reverse-engineer the circuitry of the hygrometer, in order to make it send its humidity readings to a 'BASIC STAMP', and then on to a relay. too time-consuming for me.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: Diploid]
#2952055 - 08/01/04 01:47 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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This thing is awesome.. I am definatly gonna read this completely, about 8 times.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: Diploid]
#2952089 - 08/01/04 01:56 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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this setup is nice, i'll give ya that much, but i like magash's martha setup more.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: Diploid]
#2952498 - 08/01/04 03:38 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Id just like to point out that the correst term is,as mycoguy said, Hygrometer. Not Humidistat.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: hawksapprentice]
#2952517 - 08/01/04 03:42 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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where can i buy a hygrometer at? i tried wally world and a local hardware store but with no luck, and how much is it going to cost?
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: hawksapprentice]
#3088497 - 09/03/04 05:36 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just a point of clarification:
A hyDrometer is a device used to measures the Specific Gravity of a liquid. Specific Gravity is the ratio of the mass of a given volume of the test liquid to the same volume of pure water. Applications for a hydrometer include determining the charge state of liquid electrolyte batteries and the salinity of aquarium water.
A hyGrometer is a device used to measure the humidity in a volume of gas. Applications include meteorological estimates of the relative humidity of the atmosphere and the relative humidity in a mushroom fruiting chamber.
A humidistat, also referred to as a hygrostat, is to humidity what a thermostat is to temperature. It's used to regulate humidity. The term humidistat and hygrostat can be used interchangeably.
Hope this makes sense...
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: mycopsycho]
#3088503 - 09/03/04 05:37 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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where can i buy a hygrometer at?
PM me and I'll send you some links...
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: Diploid]
#3088923 - 09/03/04 07:08 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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You can buy a hygrometer at a tobacconist-type store; places that sell cigars and pipes specifically. They carry them because it's important to maintain a certain amount of humidity in cigar boxes and the likes. Last time I went looking for one they sold for around $50, which were the integrated themometer/hygrometer. Hope this is useful at all
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: ksizzle]
#3088975 - 09/03/04 07:21 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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mycosupply.com sells temp/humidity meters for %35 with memory and humidistats for $130.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: Diploid]
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (P [Re: george castanza]
#5428430 - 03/22/06 12:35 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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this too deserves a bump BTW
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (Pics) [Re: Diploid]
#15830163 - 02/18/12 11:45 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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i need your help i have the same set the problem i am having is the humidstat there are no clear instructions how to wire it the the humidifier. i looked at your pics and i cant tell. i do know on the humidistat orange and brown are the two you hook up too. can you give me instructions on how to make this connection please that my only hold up on getting set up completely.
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (Pics) [Re: Diploid]
#15830194 - 02/18/12 11:53 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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need help hooking up my humidistat to humidifier i have same set up
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (Pics) [Re: runtime]
#15830241 - 02/19/12 12:08 AM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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this thread was made 8 years ago with the last post being 5 years ago...
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (Pics) [Re: Diploid]
#25655100 - 12/03/18 04:55 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fuckin awesome. I just set up my martha but it’s only partially automated. I’ve got the humidifier inside the tent with only one fan. This looks like my next step. Thanks for sharing
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (Pics) [Re: Mushmouth646]
#25655117 - 12/03/18 05:03 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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14 year old thread.. There's usually a message notifying that one one is about to respond to a really old post.
And practically EVERY FC except Martha is automated.... Martha is not
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Re: Fully Automated Fruiting Chamber-Precision Humidistat (Pics) [Re: Diploid]
#28033181 - 11/04/22 07:10 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Nice
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