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OfflineThebooedocksaint
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Re: Organic Chemistry [Re: wolf8312]
    #20913937 - 12/01/14 07:07 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Organometallics is its own little subset of organic chemistry too. I could ask my advisor about it if you would like, but my school doesn't really have any research going on in that field right now. It's the generic cancer/climate/biochem research here.


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Re: Organic Chemistry [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #20914774 - 12/01/14 09:42 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah thanks dude surprised by how little information there is about this. I asked the teacher from the videos I provided  about it but she said it was not undergraduate level and so something she doesent teach. I asked her if the bonds were ionic or covalent but she didn't reply. Guess that means :shrug:


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Re: Organic Chemistry [Re: wolf8312] * 1
    #20916262 - 12/02/14 09:53 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Mercury acetate is not an organometallic compound, those contain metal-carbon bonds and usually involve transition metals.  And yes, it is very complex chemistry due to number/geometry of coordination sites among others factors.  As to whether the bonds in mercury acetate are ionic, they are, they may have some covalent character (it is a continuum, not a discrete measure).  It is also somewhat irrelevant to the oxymercuration reaction. 

Should note that there are many cleaner, more environmentally friendly methods of hydrating a carbon carbon double bond, even ones where you can not only control regiochemistry, but also the stereochemistry of the product.


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Re: Organic Chemistry [Re: Ice9]
    #20918042 - 12/02/14 04:03 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Noted, I suppose I didn't look back at the molecule in question when I made that comment. "Metalorganic" instead.


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Re: Organic Chemistry [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #20994159 - 12/18/14 01:27 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Hello chemistry students,


I want to extend an invitation to each of you. Join the "Guess The Fungi/Mushroom Chemical!" thread.


You can teach, but you have to be an excellent teacher!


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Re: Organic Chemistry [Re: The Lightning]
    #20994986 - 12/18/14 04:17 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Over this break I'll start discussion on functional groups, and connect them back to previously understood classes or organic compounds. Will build off the fact this thread has already covered saturated carbon-hydrogen molecules, cover unsaturated Carbon Hydrogen molecules and then begin to learn about organic molecules containing more than just carbon and Hydrogen. We will cover whatever material I can cover over winter break, and then if my next semester is as relaxed as I expect it to be I may continue with roughly monthly contributions of lecture, and at least weekly responses to questions. As I've said before I'm no organic chemist so if you think I'm wrong call me on it, but I can at the vary least continue this roughly descriptive style of course.

I will use chem doodle for drawing structures.

Expect an update this weekend/early next week,


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Re: Organic Chemistry [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #21015938 - 12/23/14 08:52 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Whoa, can't wait for the next update! :crazy:
Is there any recommended OC books which won't make me fall asleep too soon? (Since I only have Brady at home). Thanks beforehand! :blush:


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Re: Organic Chemistry [Re: lavallium] * 1
    #21019295 - 12/23/14 10:02 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Yes without any doubt what so ever get organic chemistry as a second language lots of practice problems to work on which is really important if you don't have a teacher setting you homework! Best book I've found so far!


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Re: Organic Chemistry [Re: wolf8312]
    #21095420 - 01/10/15 03:21 AM (9 years, 20 days ago)

Just want to add to this! Organic chemistry as a second language is fricking brilliant!

All the other books I have are useful but it was only when going back through and working on problems such as resonance and chair structures (etc) that I came to realize how piss poor my grasp on everything I had learned actually was. Sometimes I wont even understand an explanation very well but if I spend a while working through the problems myself before long I will understand.

With all the other books you will still need to buy others (work books) and take in information from other sources on or offline.

With organic chemistry as a second language however you are provided with all the information you will ever need to actually learn organic chemistry yourself!

Honest to God its better than anything I have found! If you really want to learn O chem just get it!

You should also buy yourself an atomic model set as well though to help you get a feel for the stereochemistry! 

The most important thing is to get a firm grasp on the basics before deciding to move onto the reaction mechanisms themselves. I am so glad I found it and dont even use youtube anymore!


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Re: Organic Chemistry [Re: wolf8312]
    #21245924 - 02/08/15 10:07 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for doing this, ill be watching this thread.


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Re: Organic Chemistry [Re: PanzerCubed]
    #21249299 - 02/09/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

:cheers: Watching


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Re: Organic Chemistry [Re: Earthspirit]
    #21351493 - 03/02/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I love it, I'm looking forward to your future lessons. So far your very straight forward and explain everything highly simplisticly making everything easy to understand.

I have some self taught organic chem. as do a lot of people on this site and I have wanted to take chemistry at the local community college so this would be a great start. Anything to keep me from going into class blind would be highly sought after. Keep up the great work!


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Re: Organic Chemistry [Re: NightontheSun]
    #21411511 - 03/15/15 01:31 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

this should be a seperate subforum where people can post relivant info as lessons.


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Re: Organic Chemistry [Re: rxb]
    #21411575 - 03/15/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Agreed, as important as it is to this forum...


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