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Life is Fucking Great!
    #2039253 - 10/24/03 07:56 AM (18 years, 8 days ago)

I'm sorry, but the attitude you take towards life creates the experience of life that you receive. This thought is so simple and yet so easy to forget.

Take a deep look into your feelings. Are you satisfied with your life? What is it that is keeping you down?

All it takes is a snap of your fingers and some positive thinking to instantly get up off your ass and do something about this life that you are living. You can either change or you can be ground under by change.

Life is fucking great. If you think it isn't, then you are fucking missing out.
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Re: Life is Fucking Great! [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2039272 - 10/24/03 08:10 AM (18 years, 8 days ago)

Anthrax Be All, End All lyrics
Yes, no, yes, no
Not, another word
You'll know what to do
Right!
In your face they see it
In their face you...
Take it
Make up their minds
Aggression turns the screws
Fight!
Take your piece and hold it
Make your piece and...
Stand up, you know what it means
Wake up, time to live your dreams

Down by,
Law and they can't hold you
Dictate and control you
Hold onto your ideas
Down by,
Law and no one owns you
And all the shit they've thrown you
Pay back is a real bitch

Nothing's ever easy when you do it yourself
All you can do is try
Life's not, unfair, life's just life
Death not suicide

Be all, and you'll be the end all
Life can be a real ball
State of mind
Euphoria

Think,
On your feet, and stay one step ahead
Break
Take your brain and use it
Take their mind and..
Change,
An attitude, like you change your shorts
Right!
In your face they see it
In their face you...
Stand up, you know what it means
Wake up, time to live your dreams

Down by,
Law and they can't hold you
Dictate and control you
Hold onto our ideas

Down by,
Law and no one owns you
And all the shit they've thrown you
Pay back is a real bitch

Nothings ever easy when you do it yourself
All you can do is try
Life's not unfair, life's just life
Death not suicide

Be all, and you'll be the end all
Life can be a real ball
State of mind
Euphoria

Always takin', always faking
Ignorance is so frustrating
Always taking, always faking
Ignorance is,
No way, no way, no way, no way out!


...........................................
Specificaly...
Change,
An attitude, like you change your shorts




I believe the secret to happiness is in this song.
Be all, and you'll be to end all.
Life can be a real ball.
State of mind.


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Re: Life is Fucking Great! [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #2039597 - 10/24/03 03:18 PM (18 years, 8 days ago)

life is great when Im feeling great, life is shity when Im feeling shity 

edit: rolf I cant believe how many errors I had in that one sentence :grin:


Edited by bandaid (10/24/03 05:25 PM)


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Re: Life is Fucking Great! [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2045456 - 10/26/03 08:08 PM (18 years, 5 days ago)

I concur.


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Re: Life is Fucking Great! [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2045602 - 10/26/03 09:59 PM (18 years, 5 days ago)

Every moment you are doing something that matters. Every moment you are exerting your own bit of influence on the direction of life, on the direction in which your world is moving. Even when you are doing nothing, it matters very much. For by doing nothing, you allow some of your greatest possibilities to pass by without ever being fulfilled. Whatever you're doing right now truly matters. It will make a difference in the way your life proceeds, a difference for yourself and for all those around you. What will the difference amount to? That depends on what you're doing.
You cannot escape the consequences that will surely come from this moment. Yet you can have a very influential say in what those consequences will be, by virtue of what you do with it.
Live every moment as though it's the most important thing you can do. And soon enough you'll discover that it is.



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Re: Life is Fucking Great! [Re: CleverName]
    #2045970 - 10/27/03 12:33 AM (18 years, 5 days ago)

This is good Karma. Inner change brings the most powerful outer change. Outer change brings only minimal inner change.


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Re: Life is Fucking Great! [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2045985 - 10/27/03 12:39 AM (18 years, 5 days ago)

Every moment of every day is amazing.

Simply being here is amazing.

Yeah, Life is great :smile:


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Re: Life is Fucking Great! [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2046018 - 10/27/03 12:59 AM (18 years, 5 days ago)

Granted, but to play devil's advocate since Swami is not here, what if instead of being a Westerner happily typing away on your computer, you are an Ehiopian child who is starving and roasting under the hot desert sun?

Would your attitude carry the day then?

What would you suggest the child tell himself to get pumped-up and perky?..

"Boy I tell you, this starvation.. these flies covering my face, and this sweltering desert are all part of God's marvelous creation! Do I feel lucky to be alive baby, wo0t!!"


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Re: Life is Fucking Great! [Re: Jellric]
    #2046367 - 10/27/03 03:10 AM (18 years, 5 days ago)

If I was an Ethiopian child, and had to live like that, I would still think the same way only if there was some sort of circumstance that allowed me to have access to similar thoughts.
Peace.


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

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Re: Life is Fucking Great! [Re: Jellric]
    #2046701 - 10/27/03 07:42 AM (18 years, 5 days ago)

what if instead of being a Westerner happily typing away on your computer, you are an Ehiopian child who is starving and roasting under the hot desert sun?


how could one know how that would feel? these kind of questions are ok to make a point i guess, but no one can know anothers reality


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Re: Life is Fucking Great! [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2046704 - 10/27/03 07:48 AM (18 years, 5 days ago)

If you were an ethiopian child who was half starved to death, had seen his/her parents die and was suffering from various illnesses, life would not be great and saying a few "affirmations" wouldnt change that. Life is not always, fucking great nor is it particularly amazing all of the time.


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Re: Life is Fucking Great! [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2046863 - 10/27/03 10:38 AM (18 years, 5 days ago)

Quote:

fireworks_god said:
I'm sorry, but the attitude you take towards life creates the experience of life that you receive. This thought is so simple and yet so easy to forget.




I couldn't agree more! :thumbup: 


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Re: Life is Fucking Great! [Re: Le_Canard]
    #2046924 - 10/27/03 11:14 AM (18 years, 5 days ago)

The attitude you take towards life creates the attitude you take towards life. It does not on the other hand create your life experience. It may effect what life experience you have as a positive frame of mind can lead you down different paths but just having a postive outlook does not mean you are going to avoid unpleasant life experiences.


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Re: Life is Fucking Great! [Re: GazzBut]
    #2046935 - 10/27/03 11:19 AM (18 years, 5 days ago)

Oh yes, that's very true! But a positive frame of mind will also help you deal better with life's little "problems". At least I think so. :smile: 


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Re: Life is Fucking Great! [Re: GazzBut]
    #2047815 - 10/27/03 05:31 PM (18 years, 4 days ago)

Quote:

GazzBut said:
If you were an ethiopian child who was half starved to death, had seen his/her parents die and was suffering from various illnesses, life would not be great and saying a few "affirmations" wouldnt change that. Life is not always, fucking great nor is it particularly amazing all of the time.




Hell, if I was that kid, I would say "What the hell do I have to lose now", and then pursue something knowing that if I failed at it, it wouldn't really matter in the end anyways.

At least that is what would eventually pull myself together if it was me that was dropped in Ethiopia, it was me that was starving, and it was me that had my parent's die. If i was a different person entirely, there is absolutely no way I could know ANYTHING about how I would feel, because my only experience of life is what I have now.

But if I was put through the same experiences as the Ethiopian kid, no matter how much "life would suck", I know that I would get back up on my feet. I have seen what it is like to truly live and would NEVER give that up, no matter what happens.
Peace.


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

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Re: Life is Fucking Great! [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2047909 - 10/27/03 06:01 PM (18 years, 4 days ago)

You seem pretty sure how "you" would deal with these situations and dare I say it, you sound fairly impressed with how "you" would deal with that situation.

Perhaps you should try a little experiment. Spend a couple of weeks surviving on half a bowl of rice a day...Just to give yourself a sense of perspective on what you are actually saying. You dont really buy into this suffering is all in your head nonsense do you? I know you think you could positive think through anything im just saying dont believe everything you think, even if it is positive.


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Re: Life is Fucking Great! [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2047910 - 10/27/03 06:01 PM (18 years, 4 days ago)

You seem pretty sure how "you" would deal with these situations and dare I say it, you sound fairly impressed with how "you" would deal with that situation.

Perhaps you should try a little experiment. Spend a couple of weeks surviving on half a bowl of rice a day...Just to give yourself a sense of perspective on what you are actually saying. You dont really buy into this suffering is all in your head nonsense do you? I know you think you could positive think through anything im just saying dont believe everything you think, even if it is positive.


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Re: Life is Fucking Great! [Re: GazzBut]
    #2047926 - 10/27/03 06:07 PM (18 years, 4 days ago)

If you were an etheopian child starving I doubt you would ever have gotten to the point to reach the wonderful conclusions that seem to work for you now. You would be a completely different person. Life would more than likly suck for you if you didn't die within the fist few years of your life from disease and such.

Also you cannot really have this logic only go in one way if it is what you really believe due to duality. "The experience of life that you receive creates the attitude you take towards life." Can also work. If one is true so if the other, because we are nothing but reflections of our opposites. One cannot exist without the other.


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Re: Life is Fucking Great! [Re: GazzBut]
    #2049793 - 10/28/03 07:10 AM (18 years, 4 days ago)

Quote:

GazzBut said:
You seem pretty sure how "you" would deal with these situations and dare I say it, you sound fairly impressed with how "you" would deal with that situation.




Well, if you dare say how that I sound fairly impressed with it, then you dared to say it... but it doesn't mean that I am.

I sound pretty sure of myself because I know the way that my mind works and I know how I deal with different situations. With the knowledge that I have received from life so far, and a certain state of mind that I can relatively easily enough access, I KNOW that I would eventually pull through anything and get back on my feet. The way I have raised myself to deal with shit makes it that way.

I mean, sure, there are a lot of times I start to get depressed with something, and I end up laying in bed starting to fucking not want to get up. My thoughts in that situation always lead to these kind of thoughts "Well, that shit is in the past. Nothing I can do to change it, I can only get up right now and make something worth living for." "There isn't any point in laying here and fucking hating myself." Shit like that.

There isn't any point in dwelling on shit in the past. And if I am in a situation right now that I don't like the way things are going, I will get up and do something about it. I mean, life is too fucking short to fucking sit around on a couch all day (or on the side of the road, or what the fuck ever) and fucking feel like life sucks and there is nothing I can do about it. Because there IS something I can do about it.

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Perhaps you should try a little experiment. Spend a couple of weeks surviving on half a bowl of rice a day...Just to give yourself a sense of perspective on what you are actually saying. You dont really buy into this suffering is all in your head nonsense do you? I know you think you could positive think through anything im just saying dont believe everything you think, even if it is positive. 




Dude, I have a sense of what it is I am saying. Do you know how many situations have caused me to question this shit? Do  you know how many times I have battled in my head over this shit? There is a reason I believe what I believe and think the way I think.

Suffering IS all in your head. Suffering is a negative feeling caused by a certain experience or situation. However, it is only our mind that links the certain experience to suffering. I can't say how I would cope if everyone in my family died tomorrow, this house burnt down and I was left with no money, no home, and no family. However, no matter how much it would suck, I would HAVE to get back on my feet and still live my life. That is just the way it is. :grin:
Peace.


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
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Re: Life is Fucking Great! [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2049822 - 10/28/03 07:29 AM (18 years, 4 days ago)

please keep up these inspiring posts :smile:


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Re: Life is Fucking Great! [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2049855 - 10/28/03 07:58 AM (18 years, 4 days ago)

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Suffering IS all in your head. Suffering is a negative feeling caused by a certain experience or situation.




As I said try my little experiment and come back to me on that one! Go and let a car run over your arm and come back to me on that one!

Suffering is not all in your head, the way you deal with suffering is all in your head but just because you can be unattached to suffering and minimise its impact on you does not mean you wont ever suffer. I also dont think that a positve outlook will ensure you have a life that is fucking great all the way through, it just means you are less likely to let the lowpoints get you down. Which when all is said and done is a sentiment, that although true, is so obvious that its best left to people like Oprah to discuss!!

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Re: Life is Fucking Great! [Re: GazzBut]
    #2049870 - 10/28/03 08:11 AM (18 years, 4 days ago)

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As I said try my little experiment and come back to me on that one! Go and let a car run over your arm and come back to me on that one!

Suffering is not all in your head, the way you deal with suffering is all in your head but just because you can be unattached to suffering and minimise its impact on you does not mean you wont ever suffer. I also dont think that a positve outlook will ensure you have a life that is fucking great all the way through, it just means you are less likely to let the lowpoints get you down. Which when all is said and done is a sentiment, that although true, is so obvious that its best left to people like Oprah to discuss!!





What you are saying makes sense. I wasn't saying (unless I did, hehe, I was typing quick as I was short on time) that there aren't going to be low points. And, I mean, when phsyical pain is involved, like getting run over by a car, it would take a guru who could shut down all feelings of pain to not suffer.

And I could definitely eat nothing but rice for two weeks. Bland rice even. I wouldn't prefer to, but if I had to, I would make the best of it.. :grin:

A positive outlook is basically essential to enjoy one's life even 50% of the time. There will still be times that get you down or make you question things, but when you are normally happy and optimistic, the time spent dealing with the negative stuff will be as short as possible.
Peace.


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
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Re: Life is Fucking Great! [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2049878 - 10/28/03 08:16 AM (18 years, 4 days ago)

Life is 90% what happens to you, 10% how you deal with it
:wink:


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Re: Life is Fucking Great! [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2049884 - 10/28/03 08:23 AM (18 years, 4 days ago)

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I'm sorry, but the attitude you take towards life creates the experience of life that you receive.




It was just this sounded like you only have to think life is great to have a great life. Which is something I dont agree with but maybe you didnt mean that!

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Life is fucking great. If you think it isn't, then you are fucking missing out. 




Once again some peoples lifes are fucking great, yours obviously is so congratulations! But some peoples lifes are simply not what is commonly understood as being great. Which is not to say that they dont face it with the most positive attitude they can, but if I had understood your first point as I dexcribed above then it would imply that people who are having negative life experiences have brought them upon themselves through their inability to think positively. That kind of mushy new age mumbo jumbo makes me sick to my stomach! (But only briefly until I frame it in a positive light and move on!!  :grin:)

As for the rice thing if you spent two weeks existing on half a bowl of rice a day you might find that the positive thinking mechanism soon gets over run by the screaming signals your stomach and other organs would be sending to your brain. Im not saying that these things cant be dealt with through positive thinking but its definitely alot harder than being positive enough to get off the sofa when you are feeling a little down. Which at the end of the day, is going to happen anyway of its own accord unless you are in the midst of a very deep depression of course.

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Re: Life is Fucking Great! [Re: GazzBut]
    #2050198 - 10/28/03 12:42 PM (18 years, 4 days ago)

gee what a positive thread!


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Re: Life is Fucking Great! [Re: GazzBut]
    #2050358 - 10/28/03 01:41 PM (18 years, 4 days ago)

Quote:

GazzBut said:
It was just this sounded like you only have to think life is great to have a great life. Which is something I dont agree with but maybe you didnt mean that!




Well, technically, if you believed that your life was great, it would be great. If you honestly believed that digging holes all day with no pay, just because it was fun, makes up a great life, then your life is fucking great.

Anyways, I am not saying that you think positively and your life magically becomes great. One goes out and makes their life correspond with their idea of what they want their life to be about. And if someone is constantly thinking that their life sucks, and they hold this fucked up self image and all these doubts, it is going to fucking suck and they won't have the drive to get out there and do something to change their life.

Thinking positively doesn't bring about change in one's life. It gives someone the determination to make the best of what they have, and to get out there and live their life the way they want to. If someone never realizes this, then that is there loss. I just know that I can't go through life not willing to make necessary changes and unable to enjoy what I have.
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I wouldn't fear
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Like being here
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