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zappaisgod
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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Murph]
#20389179 - 08/07/14 06:40 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Murph said: $10 an hr isn't close to a living wage in the US.
In some places it is for a single person.Quote:
Belittling the workers labor and labeling them as undeserving of a fair wage is just another shill tactic to divide people with bullshit partisan politics.
Anybody who can only get a minimum wage job after being in the workforce for a year is a fucking retard and deserves to be belittled. Belittled and mockedQuote:
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If a small business cant afford to pay the employees enough to live in this country they should close down shop because their business is an absolute failure.
So all the customers have to pay more to support some no account jerkoff? Business owners should pay what they have to pay to get workers and not one cent more.
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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: psychawarenessorg]
#20389261 - 08/07/14 06:58 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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psychawarenessorg said: Chains like mcdonalds make thousands of dollars per hour even, you have to understand that when your clearing thousands of dollars in profit while the workers work as slaves for a company that can pay them so much more you should be asking for a pay increase,
just because a franchise takes a few grand to the bank each day it doesnt mean that's their profits, the guy may only be seeing a few hundred in profits. McDonalds isnt a chain, it's a franchise
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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#20389269 - 08/07/14 06:59 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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have you worked for mcdonalds, ive seen what they take in i know how they treat there workers ive been there ive done that if youve worked at mcdonalds then you should know this all ready, based on the fact that you know nothing about what your talking about even to the slightest reference of my existence you mys well just keep out.
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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: zappaisgod]
#20389280 - 08/07/14 07:00 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said:
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Murph said: Belittling the workers labor and labeling them as undeserving of a fair wage is just another shill tactic to divide people with bullshit partisan politics.
Anybody who can only get a minimum wage job after being in the workforce for a year is a fucking retard and deserves to be belittled. Belittled and mocked
I was going to disagree but I cant, it's accurate, I've never worked a job that didnt have me at least 2 raises in the first year
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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: psychawarenessorg]
#20389332 - 08/07/14 07:10 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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psychawarenessorg said: have you worked for mcdonalds, ive seen what they take in i know how they treat there workers ive been there ive done that if youve worked at mcdonalds then you should know this all ready, based on the fact that you know nothing about what your talking about even to the slightest reference of my existence you mys well just keep out.
what they take in is not profit, I havent worked at McDonalds but all the McDonalds employees I knew were pretty happy with their job, I've been in a McDonalds helping them close, the assistant manager was a friend and I dated a chick that worked there.
so since you know all this why not tell is what their P/L statements read, how much the franchise took in per day, the daily operating, food cost, weekly and monthly expenditures. how much was payroll, how much did they have to match in tax, medicare and social security, maybe while you're at it you could give us the combination to the safe
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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#20389339 - 08/07/14 07:11 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah or just tell you the numbers and cut the bullshit and know im right =)
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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: lovecheese]
#20389401 - 08/07/14 07:24 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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lovecheese said: My current job (making $6/hour more than McDonalds) is an engineering job designing HVAC and plumbing for commercial buildings. It's is easier than McDonald's was.
I'm glad someone finally said this. People trivialize the work so frequently, seemingly without realizing how many people do relatively simple tasks while sitting in front of a computer everyday and making 2-3x as much. I used to do IT work for twice what I make now in the food industry. Luckily I'm in a small business, but doing food preparation is more difficult than the IT work I used to do. Moving around 50-100lbs regularly, making things from scratch by hand, and working in a fast paced and somewhat physically demanding job is far more challenging than a huge number of desk jobs, particularly relative to the fitness level of the average office worker. I realized how horrible a sedentary career was for my overall health though, so now I'm stuck in the crossroads of what to do with science/engineering education that's physically active.
This said, 15/hr seems crazy, but current national minimum wage, even without a family to support, can be barely livable in some situations even when working more than full time.
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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Gilgamesh18]
#20389451 - 08/07/14 07:40 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Maharishi_2_U said: 10.50 minimum .... Why should a single parent need to depend on food assistance or heat/electric assistance, just to make ends meet?
Why should someone dumb enough to have children when they are incapable of getting a better job be helped?
To prevent crime and pestilence you twit.
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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Maharishi_2_U]
#20389478 - 08/07/14 07:49 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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How does welfare decrease crime and pestilence? It has seemed to have the opposite effect.
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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: zappaisgod]
#20389479 - 08/07/14 07:50 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said:
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Murph said: $10 an hr isn't close to a living wage in the US.
In some places it is for a single person.Quote:
Belittling the workers labor and labeling them as undeserving of a fair wage is just another shill tactic to divide people with bullshit partisan politics.
Anybody who can only get a minimum wage job after being in the workforce for a year is a fucking retard and deserves to be belittled. Belittled and mockedQuote:
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If a small business cant afford to pay the employees enough to live in this country they should close down shop because their business is an absolute failure.
So all the customers have to pay more to support some no account jerkoff? Business owners should pay what they have to pay to get workers and not one cent more.
quote 1. not really
quote 2. no
quote 3. no
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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Murph]
#20389515 - 08/07/14 07:58 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes, we know you disagree. And the level of effort you put into your post speaks volumes
http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/14poverty.cfm
Poverty level is less than a full time minimum wage job
Family size 1 48 Contiguous states and D.C. $11,670 Alaska $14,580 Hawaii $13,420
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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Maharishi_2_U]
#20389525 - 08/07/14 08:01 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Maharishi_2_U said: 10.50 minimum .... Why should a single parent need to depend on food assistance or heat/electric assistance, just to make ends meet?
Why should someone dumb enough to have children when they are incapable of getting a better job be helped?
To prevent crime and pestilence you twit.
So people should just be allowed to do whatever to prevet crime? Libreral thought is bizarre.
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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Gilgamesh18]
#20389538 - 08/07/14 08:07 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not anything, we're not talking marshal law just giving poor people enough to eat and live indoors without having to break the law, live in squallier or take public assistance while having full-time employment.
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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Murph]
#20389552 - 08/07/14 08:10 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Murph said: Not anything, we're not talking marshal law just giving poor people enough to eat and live indoors without having to break the law, live in squallier or take public assistance while having full-time employment.
Poor people in the US at least have plenty to eat!
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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#20389563 - 08/07/14 08:13 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said:
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Murph said: Belittling the workers labor and labeling them as undeserving of a fair wage is just another shill tactic to divide people with bullshit partisan politics.
Anybody who can only get a minimum wage job after being in the workforce for a year is a fucking retard and deserves to be belittled. Belittled and mocked
I was going to disagree but I cant, it's accurate, I've never worked a job that didnt have me at least 2 raises in the first year
My entire life, from 14 on, I made it a goal to NEVER work for minimum wage. TONS of my friends did and many are in pretty decent jobs nowadays. There are a small few though, that seemed content playing with mcdonald's special sauce all day....I don't get it. I refrain from mocking outloud. My mom told me if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it. I don't ALWAYS follow that, but try to.
I'm 30 and have seemed to have succeeded in not working a minimum wage job yet..
I was kicked out of my house, no handouts, no money...just me and my stubborn nature.
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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Gilgamesh18]
#20389576 - 08/07/14 08:16 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gilgamesh18 said: Poor people in the US at least have plenty to eat!
Food insecurity is a real issue for many poor people in this country. I know when my mother was struggling to raise us, sometimes a sack of groceries from a friend was the only way she could put food on the table, and she sometimes didn't have enough for herself.
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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: TaiJi]
#20389585 - 08/07/14 08:18 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gilgamesh18 said: Poor people in the US at least have plenty to eat!
Food insecurity is a real issue for many poor people in this country. I know when my mother was struggling to raise us, sometimes a sack of groceries from a friend was the only way she could put food on the table, and she sometimes didn't have enough for herself.
Really? Tons of restaurants and shelters give out free food to scores of people.
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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Gilgamesh18]
#20389595 - 08/07/14 08:21 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not in the middle of rural America.
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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Murph]
#20389607 - 08/07/14 08:23 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Murph said: Not in the middle of rural America.
Murph do you live in rural america? In my town no one goes hungry and there is a very small amount of people.
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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Gilgamesh18]
#20389619 - 08/07/14 08:26 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Gilgamesh18 said: Really? Tons of restaurants and shelters give out free food to scores of people.
Yes really. Just because you haven't experienced it doesn't mean that there aren't people with problems accessing food.
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