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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Murph]
    #20387378 - 08/07/14 10:41 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

That's how it is in seatac. I think skilled workers should scale with the change. But all its doing is speeding up inflation.


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Enjoywho]
    #20387526 - 08/07/14 11:26 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not belittling the workers I'm belittling the job itself. I just don't see how anyone deserves 15 per hour to serve hot n' fresh cancer


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #20387564 - 08/07/14 11:36 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

r00tuuu123 said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:



it's not hard work and it's only a little stressful when you have to deal
with some of the retards or if you panic during a rush, hell, the McDonalds
near me cant get shit right. cold undercooked fries and too much sauce on
burgers, the shit is inedible, if they arent capable of getting condiments
right at $8/hr then how the fuck will they manage at $15/hr


Pris what are you talking about the fries are on timers the meat is on timers and the condiments come out of a caulking gun preset to dispense the amount called for.




and I suppose timers cannot be ignored, that adjustment to the caulk gun
couldnt be made or that people there dont give a double dose of the 
special sauce when ever they feel like it, I know what my experiences have
been at McDonalds, had another this morning when my kids hounded me for
breakfast, a steak McMuffin where the muffin was greasy as fuck, I wonder
how those grease dispensers work

I'm pretty sure that when people drop that basket of fries they're
supposed to hit the timer, if the timer beeps at 5 minutes then the timer
beeps but I'm also pretty sure that the timer doesnt automatically remove
the fries and that it doesnt slap people's hands for trying to pull them
early during a rush, I doubt they have sensors to detect if a burger has
already had ketchup or sauce added already... feel free to correct me if
I'm wrong


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Murph]
    #20387565 - 08/07/14 11:36 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Murph said:
$10 an hr isn't close to a living wage in the US.

Belittling the workers labor and labeling them as undeserving of a fair wage is just another shill tactic to divide people with bullshit partisan politics.

If a small business cant afford to pay the employees enough to live in this country they should close down shop because their business is an absolute failure.




Unfortunately, when there's an excess pool of labor, wages fall. Some small businesses operate on very small margins today and wages are a huge part of their operating cost, higher wages (in some cases) mean they go out of business.

The US economy has been structurally damaged the last 30 years from outsourcing jobs out of the country, this has a huge impact on everything, small businesses don't have the growth and prosperity they once had, the old US economy is long gone.


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Murph]
    #20387601 - 08/07/14 11:48 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Murph said:
This same thread again?

This crap debate gets re-posted every week with either zappa, pris or gilamish posting against the raise and every other member filling pages in disagreement... how many times do you people need to repeat yourselves?





I'm all for raising minimum wage, I think we should raise it to $100/hr
because that would make more people wealthy and eliminate poverty in
the US


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: qman]
    #20387610 - 08/07/14 11:52 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

qman said:
Quote:

Murph said:
$10 an hr isn't close to a living wage in the US.

Belittling the workers labor and labeling them as undeserving of a fair wage is just another shill tactic to divide people with bullshit partisan politics.

If a small business cant afford to pay the employees enough to live in this country they should close down shop because their business is an absolute failure.




Unfortunately, when there's an excess pool of labor, wages fall. Some small businesses operate on very small margins today and wages are a huge part of their operating cost, higher wages (in some cases) mean they go out of business.

The US economy has been structurally damaged the last 30 years from outsourcing jobs out of the country, this has a huge impact on everything, small businesses don't have the growth and prosperity they once had, the old US economy is long gone.




you half touched on something, the excess labor, we've outsources jobs and imported labor, we wouldnt have to have a discussion about raising minimum wage had the wage standard not been kept back due to illegals flooding in


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Murph]
    #20387633 - 08/07/14 11:59 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Murph said:
If a small business cant afford to pay the employees enough to live in this country they should close down shop because their business is an absolute failure.





what about the huge business like the banking industry? they werent simply
allowed to go out of business, government is dumping hundreds of billions
into private industry every year, that's certainly not a suitable business
model when there's no real return, Solyndra took $500mil and went bankrupt,
obama stepped in and took possession of their records before the FBI could
examine them and they're just one of thousands of businesses with a failing
business model that are sucking the welfare tit

maybe the real problem is government's intervention in business, for
government to give a few trillion to banks, car makers, green energy,
research projects, etc... the money has to come from somewhere, do you
think that maybe the corporate taxes are too high for mom and pop to
compete when even the big businesses are getting handouts from government
in order to 'compete'


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #20387635 - 08/07/14 11:59 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

DE TERRKIN URRR JRRRRBS DERP DA DERR.

Find a new AM station, man


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Murph]
    #20387659 - 08/07/14 12:07 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Murph said:
DE TERRKIN URRR JRRRRBS DERP DA DERR.

Find a new AM station, man





yeah, because south park is the answer to everything


in 1986 the average wage for a construction laborer was $8/hr, skilled
workers started at around $16/hr, minimum wage was $3.35/hr. thanks to the
27 million illegals in this country willing to work for anything, living 2
and 3 families per apartment, we now see that construction labor starts at
$8/hr, skilled workers are starting at $12/hr. who do you think is
responsible for this stagnation in wages?

this is life experience buckwheat, not southpark political commentary


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #20387670 - 08/07/14 12:11 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

r00tuuu123 said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:



it's not hard work and it's only a little stressful when you have to deal
with some of the retards or if you panic during a rush, hell, the McDonalds
near me cant get shit right. cold undercooked fries and too much sauce on
burgers, the shit is inedible, if they arent capable of getting condiments
right at $8/hr then how the fuck will they manage at $15/hr


Pris what are you talking about the fries are on timers the meat is on timers and the condiments come out of a caulking gun preset to dispense the amount called for.




and I suppose timers cannot be ignored, that adjustment to the caulk gun
couldnt be made or that people there dont give a double dose of the 
special sauce when ever they feel like it, I know what my experiences have
been at McDonalds, had another this morning when my kids hounded me for
breakfast, a steak McMuffin where the muffin was greasy as fuck, I wonder
how those grease dispensers work

I'm pretty sure that when people drop that basket of fries they're
supposed to hit the timer, if the timer beeps at 5 minutes then the timer
beeps but I'm also pretty sure that the timer doesnt automatically remove
the fries and that it doesnt slap people's hands for trying to pull them
early during a rush, I doubt they have sensors to detect if a burger has
already had ketchup or sauce added already... feel free to correct me if
I'm wrong



Pris it's pretty much idiot proof so yeah you are wrong, not saying the employees are geniuses but yeah the fries and nuggets and fish actually raise themselves out of the fryer and as far as the condiments go the dosage is set by the corporation.This is not the Jetsons where you get a recipe suited to your particular taste. It's an assembly line. Blame Henry Ford for your bad burger. :themoreyouknow:


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #20387680 - 08/07/14 12:13 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

r00tuuu123 said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

r00tuuu123 said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:



it's not hard work and it's only a little stressful when you have to deal
with some of the retards or if you panic during a rush, hell, the McDonalds
near me cant get shit right. cold undercooked fries and too much sauce on
burgers, the shit is inedible, if they arent capable of getting condiments
right at $8/hr then how the fuck will they manage at $15/hr


Pris what are you talking about the fries are on timers the meat is on timers and the condiments come out of a caulking gun preset to dispense the amount called for.




and I suppose timers cannot be ignored, that adjustment to the caulk gun
couldnt be made or that people there dont give a double dose of the 
special sauce when ever they feel like it, I know what my experiences have
been at McDonalds, had another this morning when my kids hounded me for
breakfast, a steak McMuffin where the muffin was greasy as fuck, I wonder
how those grease dispensers work

I'm pretty sure that when people drop that basket of fries they're
supposed to hit the timer, if the timer beeps at 5 minutes then the timer
beeps but I'm also pretty sure that the timer doesnt automatically remove
the fries and that it doesnt slap people's hands for trying to pull them
early during a rush, I doubt they have sensors to detect if a burger has
already had ketchup or sauce added already... feel free to correct me if
I'm wrong



Pris it's pretty much idiot proof so yeah you are wrong, not saying the employees are geniuses but yeah the fries and nuggets and fish actually raise themselves out of the fryer and as far as the condiments go the dosage is set by the corporation.This is not the Jetsons where you get a recipe suited to your particular taste. It's an assembly line. Blame Henry Ford for your bad burger. :themoreyouknow:





please show us the video of the levitating McFish and since we know that
assembly lines are flawless there's no need for automobile recalls because
everything works as planned, it's an idiot proof assembly line


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #20387738 - 08/07/14 12:31 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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trekie said:...No way in hell should some one flipping burgers get nearly the same pay as a construction worker...


Do they even flip those nasty things anymore?
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:... feel free to correct me if
I'm wrong



Quote:

...I know what my experiences have
been at McDonalds, had another this morning when my kids hounded me for
breakfast, a steak McMuffin where the muffin was greasy as fuck, I wonder
how those grease dispensers work...



Funny thing, when my kids used to 'hound' me for breakfast, I made them breakfast.:shrug:
Feeding kids McD's is practically child abuse...:evilpuke:



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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #20387740 - 08/07/14 12:32 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

On the nose satirical cartoon  > right winger with 173,000 post on a mushroom message board.

yeah I'll side with the cartoon.


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: vinsue]
    #20387760 - 08/07/14 12:37 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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vinsue said:
Funny thing, when my kids used to 'hound' me for breakfast, I made them breakfast.:shrug:
Feeding kids McD's is practically child abuse...:evilpuke:




:cookiemonster:

what is this revolutionary new form of parenting you speak of?


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: vinsue]
    #20387773 - 08/07/14 12:40 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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vinsue said:
Quote:

trekie said:...No way in hell should some one flipping burgers get nearly the same pay as a construction worker...


Do they even flip those nasty things anymore?





nope, clam shell grills

Quote:

Funny thing, when my kids used to 'hound' me for breakfast, I made them breakfast.:shrug:




I found it a bit of a challenge to fit a stove, sink and fridge into the
car and while there's no law specifically against cooking while driving in
georgia I'm sure that the cops would see it as similar to texting and cite
me for something anyway

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Feeding kids McD's is practically child abuse...





feel free to feed your kids/grandkids all the ecoli contaminated food you
wish, just because you arent keen on McDonalds doesnt mean it's actually
bad for you, what is bad for you is overeating


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #20387788 - 08/07/14 12:42 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

You seriously think home-cooked meals are worse than McDonalds? :facepalm:


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: D.M.T]
    #20387807 - 08/07/14 12:46 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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You seriously think home-cooked meals are worse than McDonalds? :facepalm:




did I say that?


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #20387828 - 08/07/14 12:52 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

You made the claim vinsue feeds e.coli contaminated food to his family, and McDonalds is not unhealthy. While not explicitly stated, the reader is left with that implication...


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Shining Cosmos]
    #20387836 - 08/07/14 12:54 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Shining Cosmos said:
I'm not belittling the workers I'm belittling the job itself. I just don't see how anyone deserves 15 per hour to serve hot n' fresh cancer




And back in the day, im sure people said "I just don't see how anyone deserves 25 cents per hour to blah di blah" 15 is just a number.

Compared to inflation, wages have been steadily going down for years and years. [Yet somehow profits and CEO wages have gone up, but oh no, the business simply can't handle paying their workers more...]
No one is arguing that minimum wage jobs are so difficult that the workers deserve a raise, just that wages ought to match the increase in the cost of living. A person who works full time ought to be able to afford rent AND food.


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: D.M.T]
    #20387846 - 08/07/14 12:58 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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D.M.T said:
You made the claim vinsue feeds e.coli contaminated food to his family, and McDonalds is not unhealthy. While not explicitly stated, the reader is left with that implication...





so you read something into it that wasnt explicitly stated


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