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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: King Klick]
    #20386647 - 08/07/14 06:11 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Scenario...someone who works at McDonald's does not pay to eat at McDonald's. The extra money they have is disposable income. That worker will then go eat at the mom and pop diner down the road. More money is circulating. How much merit their is to that is beyond me. Some of it is probably accurate.




McDonalds stores arent owned by McDonalds, it's a franchise system, individuals buy the franchise and then they pay a royalty every year
to maintain the rights to use the name



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And with the raise of wages comes to raising product prices...by a couple cents, for large corporations. Once again it'll barely dent the consumers total at the store. And now the Wal-Mart workers aren't on food stamps at other social programs can be funded.





I love how this works, some journalist decides to mislead the public by
making claims that walmart employees have to get food stamps to survive,
first, I'm sure some are on food stamps, I'm sure some also have 3 or more
children but what's even more amusing is that walmart stopped direct
hiring employees, they hire through a temp service several years ago,
walmart employees make a decent wage, temp service employees make $8/hr

now for the anecdote about walmart/food stamps, I work with people that
have a base pay of $12/hr, a number of them are also on food stamps and
collecting other government benefits, I know of one that was offered a
promotion that would have started her at $17/hr but she refused because
the difference in pay would have had her dropped from the government tit
which is, when combined with her paycheck, more than $17/hr. she also
drives a newer model SUV, wears nice clothes and seems that she gets out
and parties a lot based on what she tells me


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: lovecheese]
    #20386652 - 08/07/14 06:15 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Raising the minimum wage stimulates the economy. There is already a 500% markup on everything off the dollar menu at McDonalds.





and after a wage increase, then what, a 4500% markup, how has that helped the economy


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: lovecheese]
    #20386659 - 08/07/14 06:18 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Luckily I get paid production...Each part i run has a set price per part....I run a bunch i make a bunch...I run little i make little....there are ppl that do exactly what i do and make 100 dollars less a day just because they are bums....i think every place should pay based on your work ethic....wanna be a bum well your gonna make min wage...wanna be a hard worker then you should make more than that lazy bum....:jah:


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: D.M.T]
    #20386662 - 08/07/14 06:20 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Fast food and retail don't get paid enough for the shit they have to put up with. Everyone I know living off minimum wage has to have government assistance. Minimum wage is like $7.52 here. The only real difference in cost in living in Ohio is cheaper housing.





:whathesaid:

It's $7.25 here.

I work at Taco Bell :facepalm:


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #20386674 - 08/07/14 06:26 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Fast food is easy no skill work and deserves shit pay.

No way in hell should some one flipping burgers get nearly the same pay as a construction worker.

If you think fast food is hard work life is going to be very difficult for you.


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: trekie]
    #20386684 - 08/07/14 06:34 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Fast food is easy no skill work and deserves shit pay.

No way in hell should some one flipping burgers get nearly the same pay as a construction worker.

If you think fast food is hard work life is going to be very difficult for you.




I've worked construction. I'm (or, well, I used to be) a tile man, and a decent painter.

I'd rather work construction any day of the week than work fast food.


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: trekie]
    #20386685 - 08/07/14 06:34 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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trekie said:
If you think fast food is hard work life is going to be very difficult for you.





it's not hard work and it's only a little stressful when you have to deal
with some of the retards or if you panic during a rush, hell, the McDonalds
near me cant get shit right. cold undercooked fries and too much sauce on
burgers, the shit is inedible, if they arent capable of getting condiments
right at $8/hr then how the fuck will they manage at $15/hr


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: lovecheese]
    #20386690 - 08/07/14 06:36 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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lovecheese said:
There is already a 500% markup on everything off the dollar menu at McDonalds.




Who taught you food cost? :hmm: Jewelry doesn't even have a 500% mark up anymore. :laugh2:


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #20386709 - 08/07/14 06:45 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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it's not hard work and it's only a little stressful when you have to deal
with some of the retards or if you panic during a rush, hell, the McDonalds
near me cant get shit right. cold undercooked fries and too much sauce on
burgers, the shit is inedible, if they arent capable of getting condiments
right at $8/hr then how the fuck will they manage at $15/hr


Pris what are you talking about the fries are on timers the meat is on timers and the condiments come out of a caulking gun preset to dispense the amount called for.


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #20386710 - 08/07/14 06:45 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

The mcdonalds people have kids to take care of they need the money they have families and a home to pay for.


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: ShiVersblood] * 2
    #20386714 - 08/07/14 06:47 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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The mcdonalds people have kids to take care of they need the money they have families and a home to pay for.



should of thought about their future before spreading the legs....:shrug:


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 1
    #20386729 - 08/07/14 06:53 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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One has to consider the person that works for fast may or may not have 1-5 kids or more. Maybe not. Maybe it would make other chain corporate restaurants pay more throughout the US. I feel like the 2.35 an hour thing for waiters is ludicrous. I have been in the bar/restaurant biz for 32 years and had to go back to school to get out of it. Got a nursing degree though.

I do think 12 an hour is OK and should be standard starting pay for that job.:shrug:



If there stupid enough to have a children and have no better prospects than a minimum wage job fuck em. We should sterilize idiots like that.


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: TheMule73]
    #20386764 - 08/07/14 07:05 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

This same thread again?

This crap debate gets re-posted every week with either zappa, pris or gilamish posting against the raise and every other member filling pages in disagreement... how many times do you people need to repeat yourselves?


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Murph] * 1
    #20386779 - 08/07/14 07:07 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Murph said:
This same thread again?

This crap debate gets re-posted every week with either zappa, pris or gilamish posting against the raise and every other member filling pages in disagreement... how many times do you people need to repeat yourselves?



Murph no one forces you to read threads.


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #20386791 - 08/07/14 07:11 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Murph said:
This same thread again?

This crap debate gets re-posted every week with either zappa, pris or gilamish posting against the raise and every other member filling pages in disagreement... how many times do you people need to repeat yourselves?



Murph no one forces you to read threads.




Well apparently he doesnt  read them either cause anyone who works for 12-20 an hour does not want to pay these bums any more. Its easy to say pay these people more when you either work shit jobs or suck on mommys tit still


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #20386793 - 08/07/14 07:11 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Is somebody forcing you to re-make the same thread every week or is it just long term memory loss?


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Murph]
    #20386807 - 08/07/14 07:16 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Is somebody forcing you to re-make the same thread every week or is it just long term memory loss?



Again no one forces you to read threads you don't like. There is a hide thread feature that this site has implemented you should use it.


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: TheMule73]
    #20387147 - 08/07/14 09:37 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Do they not realize that then the small business down the road paying their employees ~18 an hour will either have to also raise their wages up a considerable percentage (which they probably can't afford to do) or else risk seeing their employees leave for a job at McDonald's making fairly close to what they were making before, while doing a much easier job?






Why would other businesses have to also hike their wages?  Once McDonald's has no more positions to fill, how are people going to leave their jobs to work for them?

Once you have a excess pool of labor like we currently have, there is no threat of workers leaving their jobs, there are no wage pressures on employers.

The fact of the matter is, a company like Costco can pay above average wages and it has no impact on other retailers, your fears are unfounded.


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: qman]
    #20387247 - 08/07/14 10:03 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

If they started It at 10 it could be a good idea. It would attract a slightly higher echelon of workers who don't make shit. Which could force the fast food bums to step there game up.

I think fast food is a glass house. Obama is bragging about job creation, if it's shitty jobs like this who cares? Fast food is a glasshouse. Dishing out cancer ridden food products for pay? No thanks. I'd rather be telemarketing


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Re: When people say that McDonald's, for example, should up their wages to 15/hr.. [Re: Shining Cosmos]
    #20387322 - 08/07/14 10:22 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

$10 an hr isn't close to a living wage in the US.

Belittling the workers labor and labeling them as undeserving of a fair wage is just another shill tactic to divide people with bullshit partisan politics.

If a small business cant afford to pay the employees enough to live in this country they should close down shop because their business is an absolute failure.


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