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Re: Over 10,000 demonstrate at while house against isreali gaza attacks [Re: imachavel]
    #20390272 - 08/08/14 12:09 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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imachavel said:
Cease fire is over

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/07/world/meast/mideast-crisis/

Bummer




I'm waiting for the first that blames this on Israel.


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Re: Over 10,000 demonstrate at while house against isreali gaza attacks [Re: starfire_xes]
    #20390718 - 08/08/14 06:18 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Someone should have took a pic of the other 9,000 people


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Re: Over 10,000 demonstrate at while house against isreali gaza attacks [Re: mandrin13]
    #20390861 - 08/08/14 08:13 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Over 10,000 demonstrate at while house against isreali gaza attacks [Re: imachavel]
    #20391123 - 08/08/14 09:43 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Hamas wanted the blockade lifted or else no ceasefire (even though 80+% of Gaza residents want a lasting ceasefire).

Idiots. Being that this is the longest conflict to date in Gaza, I'd say Hamas is trying to exploit the recent global negativity towards Israel and are now throwing forth a bunch of demands.


I feel for the people in Gaza who literally can't do a single thing to be safe.


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Re: Over 10,000 demonstrate at while house against isreali gaza attacks [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #20391373 - 08/08/14 10:51 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I feel for them as well

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/07/palestinians-return-home-israeli-troops-faeces-graffiti

Especially considering the brutality from both sides


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Re: Over 10,000 demonstrate at while house against isreali gaza attacks [Re: imachavel]
    #20391868 - 08/08/14 01:25 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I don't consider resisting an occupation brutality. I do consider continuing the occupation to be brutality and aggression. Most of what is considered isreal is occupied territory.

>why doesn't Israel commit 'genocide' against Palestinians in Jordan

Sounds just like zap, "why aren't they all wiped out?"

I say hamas has guts and does not let the jews bully them into acquiescence. They have to have it out eventually or slowly get ground into dust and exterminated which seems to be the jewish strategy. They don't have the nerve to exterminate all of them, even their own citizens might grumble a little and not even usa could stop the rest of the world from condemning it.


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Re: Over 10,000 demonstrate at while house against isreali gaza attacks [Re: Stonehenge]
    #20391898 - 08/08/14 01:31 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I'm curious to know what you think of this:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20391547


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Re: Over 10,000 demonstrate at while house against isreali gaza attacks [Re: imachavel]
    #20391999 - 08/08/14 01:58 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Its an obvious propaganda opinion piece written to favor the jewish point of view. They cite "facts" not in evidence and make up shit almost as bad as zappo.


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Re: Over 10,000 demonstrate at while house against isreali gaza attacks [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #20392280 - 08/08/14 03:32 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Hamas wanted the blockade lifted or else no ceasefire (even though 80+% of Gaza residents want a lasting ceasefire).

Idiots. Being that this is the longest conflict to date in Gaza, I'd say Hamas is trying to exploit the recent global negativity towards Israel and are now throwing forth a bunch of demands.


I feel for the people in Gaza who literally can't do a single thing to be safe.



If 80% of Gazans want to stop this they need to pull up their pants and eradicate the 20% that make a living of death.


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Re: Over 10,000 demonstrate at while house against isreali gaza attacks [Re: zappaisgod]
    #20392313 - 08/08/14 03:40 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Zap, maybe you would prefer they lay down and die to save the jews the trouble of killing them all? Or just go away and give up what little land they have left? If someone stole anything from you I bet you would want it back, I know you would.


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Re: Over 10,000 demonstrate at while house against isreali gaza attacks [Re: Stonehenge]
    #20392326 - 08/08/14 03:42 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

If 80% of the Gazans want peace shouldn't they over-rule the 20% nutcases?


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Re: Over 10,000 demonstrate at while house against isreali gaza attacks [Re: zappaisgod]
    #20393169 - 08/08/14 07:30 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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If 80% of the Gazans want peace shouldn't they over-rule the 20% nutcases?



If 2/3 of Israelis support peace, shouldn't they over-rule the 1/3 nutcases (note that Israel has more nutcases)?


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Re: Over 10,000 demonstrate at while house against isreali gaza attacks [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #20393181 - 08/08/14 07:33 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

The fucking headline

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Two-thirds of Israelis support peace with Palestinians that ensures security





You are such a liar.


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Re: Over 10,000 demonstrate at while house against isreali gaza attacks [Re: zappaisgod]
    #20393834 - 08/08/14 10:50 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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The fucking headline

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Two-thirds of Israelis support peace with Palestinians that ensures security





You are such a liar.



So you think the Palestinians that support peace DON'T want security?!?!?!?

:dudewtf:

You're the dishonest one, as always.


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Re: Over 10,000 demonstrate at while house against isreali gaza attacks [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #20394481 - 08/09/14 04:43 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Using part of a headline to support your stance doesn't pass the smell test.


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Re: Over 10,000 demonstrate at while house against isreali gaza attacks [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #20394750 - 08/09/14 08:00 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I'm under the impression at this point their view of security is pretty much no military action in their land from anyone

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/08/09/opinion/netanyahu-israels-hard-choice-on-hamas.html?_r=0&referrer=

Benjamin nut and yahoo seems to be under criticism to not send IDF deeper into Gaza for boots on the ground disarming. At least hes criticized for expecting their disarmament and not putting more effort into the actual disarming

Requires full ground troops efforts. Seems he has more international support now then in 2012 to disarm Hamas.

I agree Hamas needs to be disarmed, I do not believe Palestinians want islamic jihadists representing them. I also think nut and yahoo is a terrible representative of the Israeli people. Wish he could be jailed for war crimes and replaced as well

Whatever it takes to bring peace to Palestine. I heard recently a friend of mine visited Israel and enjoyed it quite a bit. I doubt anyone would say the same of Israels ghetto neighbor Gaza


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Re: Over 10,000 demonstrate at while house against isreali gaza attacks [Re: imachavel]
    #20394802 - 08/09/14 08:24 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

And of course I still do not condone Israels actions

"And while the overwhelming majority of Palestinian dead are civilians – 430 of them children – and 64 of the Israeli dead are soldiers, it is Hamas that is branded terrorist, rather than the Israeli armed forces armed with the most sophisticated targeting technology in the world."

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/06/gaza-crime-washington-jerusalem-carnage-western-support

"If the Palestinians are going to break out of their current subjection, that will have to go further. For the rest of the world it’s the outrageous big-power backing for Israel’s 47-year illegal occupation, colonisation and denial of Palestinian rights – while orchestrating an endless phoney peace process that simply allows the land grab to continue – that has to be challenged and dismantled.

Global public opinion has shifted decisively in favour of justice for the Palestinians. What’s needed is to turn that into unrelenting pressure for an end to support for occupation, an arms embargo and sanctions, from above and below. The horror of Gaza is a crime made in Washington and London, as well as Jerusalem."


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Re: Over 10,000 demonstrate at while house against isreali gaza attacks [Re: imachavel]
    #20395364 - 08/09/14 11:24 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

The world is wising up to the jew state and turning against it. I do not think hamas should be disarmed unless isreal is also.


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Re: Over 10,000 demonstrate at while house against isreali gaza attacks [Re: Stonehenge]
    #20396372 - 08/09/14 04:14 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

zappaisgod said:
The fucking headline

Quote:

Two-thirds of Israelis support peace with Palestinians that ensures security





You are such a liar.



So you think the Palestinians that support peace DON'T want security?!?!?!?

:dudewtf:

You're the dishonest one, as always.



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The world is wising up to the jew state and turning against it. I do not think hamas should be disarmed unless isreal is also.



ORLY.  Egypt Jordan and Saudi Arabia are siding with Israel in this.  Stormfront is not the world


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Re: Over 10,000 demonstrate at while house against isreali gaza attacks [Re: zappaisgod]
    #20396439 - 08/09/14 04:34 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

>Egypt Jordan and Saudi Arabia are siding with Israel in this

In your fevered imagination they will side with the parasite state. You are almost as delusional as elax.


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