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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: SpitballJedi] * 2
    #20371112 - 08/03/14 09:48 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

interesting. so, are all of you guys testing this method using a fan pointing directly at the tubs? or is it with subtle airflow? will these things dry out? or has anyone gotten that far yet? im very tempted to test this with ape strain.ill be at it this week. im bored and need something to keep me busy.


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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: Traveling0ut] * 2
    #20375212 - 08/04/14 09:32 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

so heres a question. i don't want to glue anything. and i don't want to switch any magnets or filters between incubation and fruiting. id like to keep it simple and have one magnet with the filter attached for both. taking the incubating tubs out of the dark and fruiting in light with air pushing in the room. do you think using one of the filters during incubation will cause any drying out of the colonizing substrate? have you tested this yet?

i bought the magnetic vent covers. is it possible to use a magnet on both sides of the tub and hold the filter in place without gluing it to the tub? im going to get going on this soon. i like the idea of being able to remove the magnet and put a new filter on or use the magnet for another tub if need be without having to remove any glue ect. i like polyfil because i put it in once and im lazy and don't have to do anything after that. but i like the cleanliness of these filters. is this your test run now on this thread?


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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: SpitballJedi] * 1
    #20379212 - 08/05/14 04:44 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

unfortunately that is what i thought about the magnets. well, hmm. there has to be a way to make this work. ill run some test runs soon and post results. its all worth a few tries to me. i really want a magnet thats strong enough to hold the filters in place. that would be awesome.


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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: TheChief]
    #20472350 - 08/24/14 10:02 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

im gonna work on making these magnet filters this week. also, it helps if you want to pressure cook or sterilize the filters prior to your next spawn run. you can easily remove the filter and put a clean one on. im not forgetting about this one. i will get it done!


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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: eatyualive]
    #20476153 - 08/25/14 06:36 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

what makes this so cool for an environment where you incubate where you fruit is the fact that you can put the double magnet on the holes. that is user friendly. very good idea!


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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: TheChief]
    #20494217 - 08/29/14 05:02 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm wondering the same thing.  There are also various factors to the filter design... 

Are you using ironed poly?  Are you using EZFelt?  Are you using one or two layers?  Maybe one layer of EZFelt or ironed poly IS too much restriction...  Maybe 1 layer is too little and two layers is too much...  Who knows?

I've been wondering all these questions the past few days since I constructed mine.  Been asking around as well, can't seem to get an answer...

I now have two tubs colonizing for the past 3 days so I guess we will find out soon.  Currently, I'm using only 1 layer of EZ on my polymags. 

It just seems like more testing needs to be done before we know for sure.



im testing the ironed filters with 2 ply thick and 4 ply thick. so far things look good in both. if the results are the same ill probably make the 2 ply thick because they take quite some time to make.

i looked all over for ez felt and couldn't find it unfortunately. i would run side by sides of each. im gonna bust out my drill soon to make these magnets.


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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: TheChief]
    #20494297 - 08/29/14 05:14 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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I found if you just trace the circle out, it can easily be cut with scissors just by starting a slice at the bottom of the square to the start of your tracing, then just cut the circle out.  The ones I use are very flexible and cutting a slit at the bottom doesn't effect functionality. 

The first time I tried to drill one out I completely destroyed it...  I don't know how Spit did it but he is one crazy guy.



thanks, i was actually thinking i could do that as well but hadn't gotten to it yet. ill probably do it this way.


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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: TheChief]
    #20494411 - 08/29/14 05:38 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

i think i read something the other day saying that ez felt hasn't worked very well for folks. it doesn't allow enough fae. but i haven't tried it personally. maybe there is a balance. maybe on the top holes you put loose polyfil and the ez felt in the bottom holes.


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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #20494811 - 08/29/14 07:14 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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Lack of FAE is my concern for 4 layers of ironed poly , too. I have some experiments going and the ez-felt may be too thick.

I've done a little digging on ez-felt, not much, but I can't tell how things were exactly set up for most posts I found. Like you said, eat, felt on bottom and loose poly on top? Fan in the room? These are subtleties that could make a big difference.




i was worried they would be too thick when i made them. but they seem to be working just fine right now for me. im running a stand up fan in the room pushing air up against the wall. this circulates the air around the backside of the tubs.  the top poly holes are in very loose and light. all 4 bottom holes are either 2 ply(tub 1) or 4 ply(tub 2) thick ironed filters. i also have a total of 4 top holes. one on each side of the bin. i also incubated in a room with no fan or shall i say steel storage cabinet with a closed door. it is in the fruiting room but the doors remain closed. also if maintenance is needed, the fan is turned off 30 minutes prior to going near those other incubating tubs. then when it came time to introduce the tubs to fruiting conditions they were set in the room with a ceiling fan. the fan crapped out after 2 days so i used a stand up fan the 3rd day.

also, usually i use all polyfil holes. but i stuff them all tight. then i incubate with the polyfil in the holes. when i introduce pinning conditions i loosen the top holes. but im not incubating in the room with air circulation so i don't need tape during incubation.


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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: sdm7001]
    #20498498 - 08/30/14 04:54 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

ok so i built mine today. i found some useful tools. a circle cutter from a craft store. this brand is fiskars.



this stuff is very thin. i found out that you can simply score the magnet with an exacto blade and put the metal ruler over it and pull the rest apart. it doesn't cause any rough edges either.

1.


2. circle cutter


3.holes cut out


4. scored the magnet long ways and short ways. also if there is a small leftover strip i cut that off completely.


5.used the ruler to hold down the score and pulled apart long ways.


6.stacked em 3 ply. held the ruler down and pulled all apart in one pull.


7. done


8. rtv'd


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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: sdm7001]
    #20526351 - 09/05/14 10:56 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

so i was all excited about to spawn two tubs. and when i tried putting the filter between the magnets. my filters are far too thick. the magnets won't hold them in place. im going to have to use poilyfil for now until i can make those filters thinner or find some ez felt. it sux the magnets are extremely weak for me. even when i turn them in 360 degree rotations to see if its stronger. the thickness of the filter won't even let the magnets get very close to each other at all. im going to have to fix the filters.... to be continued...


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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: Dilated]
    #20526763 - 09/06/14 12:34 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

yeah im going to have to pre prep everything next time. i had everything setup to spawn right then. ill give it a go next time.


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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #20528132 - 09/06/14 11:17 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

ah ok. from the picture i thought you were putting one magnet rtv'ed to the tub. then the filter, then the other magnet to hold it. i looked at it incorrectly. damn i really wanted this to be like a holding thing without having to silicone anything to the tub. well ill try it when i do the next set of tubs!


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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: Sockadin]
    #20573554 - 09/15/14 11:59 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

sockadin do you think those magnets are any stronger than the ac vent magnets?

i really want to do away with siliconing the filter to the magnet. i want the magnet to hold my filter in.


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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #20576481 - 09/16/14 06:27 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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I got a sticky back 1x2 roll at hobby lobby for $10 and they seem stronger than the vent covers. They are thinner so I can see why using a drill would be harder.





see if they will hold a filter between two? can you check? if so i might grab some.

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The Micheal's ones are what I used.  They worked great but cost 20 bucks for a small sheet, which isn't cost effective for doing multiple tubs.




will they hold a filter between them?


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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: Sanguin3]
    #20660918 - 10/05/14 11:22 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

allrighty. did it right this time!



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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: eatyualive]
    #20717249 - 10/17/14 07:39 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

looks like the magnet filters are working!



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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: eatyualive]
    #20744505 - 10/23/14 07:18 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

spitball. the magnets work!




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Re: Spitball's Monotub Tek [Re: Dilated]
    #20749402 - 10/24/14 09:23 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

just had a tex tub that had a poly hole fall out for 12 hours. dried the tub right out. you can rotate the tubs to try and give them equal amounts of fae. if one spot is getting better airflow on the outside of your stack then you may want to move some tubs that might need better airflow in that position. ill do this if i see a tub not doing so well. i was attempting the idea of running a small fan against the wall behind my tubs. and keeping the one i have now thats oscillating back and forth. it was too much airflow lol. dried out the tubs about an hour later. so scratch that idea. also depends on your setup. i find that using a small fan at pushing air in a large room does absolutely nothing for my tubs. so you have to have some more power depending on room size. a small closet setup is an easy fix. but 16-20 tubs don't fit in a small closet.

i just made my sub mix almost 3 drips between the finger rather than 1. ive found the last few rounds ive done have had a low moisture content which hasn't helped along with polyfil holes falling out. damn. it sux bc i got about an 8-12 hour gap between checking so if its out in the am its out all day. tub will be dry by the time i get home. i still let it flush out first flush then do a normal dunk after that.


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