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a color nobody has seen
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what if you saw a color that has never been seen and it wasn't just a shade of a known color, just imagine, it is impossible to imagine a color that we haven't ever seen. i don't think it is scientifically possible but what if...you know?

i thought this should maybe be in OTD but i think that readers here would grasp the idea better. anyone ever thought about seeing a color that has never been seen?


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ca'rouse (k-rouz)
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To engage in boisterous, drunken merrymaking.

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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: TODAY]
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yeah, i sometimes think about what if what we saw as red, green, blue, etc. all looked different to different people since we only know the colors by differentiating each from others. like you said, its impossible to imagine.


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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: Tao]
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just like we an only hear sounds that vibrate between 20 to 20,000 times per second (anything above is called ultrasonic) we also can only see a small part of the color spectrum, IMHO

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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: Tao]
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Sort of like trying to describe the colour red to a person who been blind from birth.

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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: TODAY]
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our eyes and brain are not equipped to handle more than what we see. Thats our chemistry... so they say. Maybe other beings can... *shrugs*


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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: TODAY]
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I have heard of people seeing colors that we don't perceive in this world, and it always happens during a spiritual experience of some sort. Our physical eyes can only see a fraction of the spectrum like someone pointed out.

Personally never experienced it myself, but it must be frustrating to try to describe that..impossible even.


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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: Jellric]
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is it even possible to think of a color?
I dunno about you, but whenever I try to think of say green, I believe I'm seeing green(in my mind), but on closer inspection it isn't green at all. More of a hazy, unstable blur of whatever, mind jargon i dunno. I believe I am thinking of greeness, but perhaps it is just memories or representations of green.
Try it yourself, think of a color, or anything for that matter, a clock. No matter how hard you concentrate, you can't seem to bring about a solid picture that you can transfer into the physical world, because thoughts are not meant for the physical world. What I'm saying is, when you think of a clock, you get an image of a mind clock, not a physical clock.
Anyways, here's a thought:
Is it possible to think of "colour" without thinking of any specific "colour"?
(we spell it "colour" here in Canada.)


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Edited by manna_man (10/23/03 02:31 AM)

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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: Zero7a1]
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"our eyes and brain are not equipped to handle more than what we see. Thats our chemistry... so they say. Maybe other beings can..."

I think our eyes and brain are equipped in this way in order to assist in our survival.. If we could see the full spectrum of light, I don't think we'd even be able to see the ground right under us!


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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: Strumpling]
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by the way, there IS a new color:

SQUANT!


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Insert an "I think" mentally in front of eveything I say that seems sketchy, because I certainly don't KNOW much. Also; feel free to yell at me.
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Edited by Strumpling (10/23/03 02:25 AM)

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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: Strumpling]
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All I need is  :stash: :spliff: :bong: :pill: :heart: :mushroom2:
    and bed


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Edited by jezu (10/23/03 06:06 AM)

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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: Strumpling]
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Have you downloaded that program? I'm afraid of wasting my time.


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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: Strumpling]
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looks like a shade of plain ol gray to me :confused: 


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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
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The flourescent colors (Like highliter pens and stuff) were recently invented. I think in the 40's or 50's. Until then those colors were only visible with ultraviolet light.

I'm pretty sure about this but, I don't have a link yet.


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Re: a color nobody has seen *DELETED* [Re: Rose]
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Post deleted by poke smot!

Reason for deletion: x


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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: poke smot!]
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Have you got a link to that study? It sounds like an interesting read.


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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: poke smot!]
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poke smot! said:
see people by their body heat.



adds a whole new dimension to the phrase "she's HOT" :grin: 


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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: lucid]
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i've also realized that thing about when you think of an object but you can't really see the object in your head when you close your eyes, you just know what it looks like from memory and you think of it and "see it" but you don't see it really because there is no visual...weird.

I want to see SQUANT!!...also, what a terrible name for a color. i'd call it something else...any suggestions for renaming squant? lol


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ca'rouse (k-rouz)
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To engage in boisterous, drunken merrymaking.

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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: TODAY]
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I thought it was just DMT within the body not 5meo, at least thats what I remember from the rick straussmen book.

Also imagine a world where everyone was blind, and 1 or 2 people could actually see, they would be looked upon as withces, freaks, or people with special telepathic type powers, when really they can just see.

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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: caolite]
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gray is universal


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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: Droz]
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i see


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Evolution of Time.

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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: Droz]
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we see


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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: Strumpling]
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Thats a very good point. If our eyes were not callibrated to a certain degree... just what in the hell would we be seeing? Like you said, it seems as though it is equipped for our survival. I find it hard to believe that it would be otherwise. I think a lot of people forget that nearly everything that we see is processed through our brain, and our abilities to manipulate and or see those things depends on our specific construct... as to where the brain can go in its perception... i think thats the journey we all try to take sometimes or another :wink: :wink: . heh heh.


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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: Zero7a1]
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I wish I were paid to participate in strange experimentations like this. That'd be amazing. Like if I got a bunch of money, for living in a completely dark chamber for 2 weeks. probably be really scary too


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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: Zero7a1]
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Brain no need perception.


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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: Droz]
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I challenge you to walk away from tool and live on land.


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Evolution of Time.

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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: Droz]
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Quote:
I challenge you to walk away from tool and live on land.



that be plan. No plan come yet till tool be mastered, then tool become mine, once tool is controlled, i can build from land with land, for me and land. Tool is too great right now, land is suffering. No one care about land. Must take on tool to help land, in order to be with land, i must take care of tool.


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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: manna_man]
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manna_man said:
is it even possible to think of a color?
I dunno about you, but whenever I try to think of say green, I believe I'm seeing green(in my mind), but on closer inspection it isn't green at all. More of a hazy, unstable blur of whatever, mind jargon i dunno. I believe I am thinking of greeness, but perhaps it is just memories or representations of green.
Try it yourself, think of a color, or anything for that matter, a clock. No matter how hard you concentrate, you can't seem to bring about a solid picture that you can transfer into the physical world, because thoughts are not meant for the physical world. What I'm saying is, when you think of a clock, you get an image of a mind clock, not a physical clock.
Anyways, here's a thought:
Is it possible to think of "colour" without thinking of any specific "colour"?
(we spell it "colour" here in Canada.)


perhaps im missing your point, but i dont have any trouble picturing a real clock or anything else for that matter. what do you mean by "transfer into the real world"?

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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: poke smot!]
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that is really interesting. when im on psylocibin i think I see body heat. A week in complete darkness would be pretty awesome!


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at this point i think we can be relatively certain seperation exists as a fallacy of finite perception, and the only barrier to infinite creativity is a preimposed notion of certainty and artificial conditioning. nothing is without origin

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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: reflectedlight]
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I have seen a color some people have seen...alot of people here.....but im pretty sure not too many other people have seen this. The color had shape though, and emotion and a big smile...if that makes sense...this color also bent time ;\


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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: tak]
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What we call vission is just our brain's translation of of a bunch of waves. If our brains didn't translated these waves in the form of what we call colors our reality will be tottaly diffrent. Like hearing, vision through our current eyes is limited to certain wavelenghts. And those wavelenghts that our censory has evolve to translate are what we consider reality. I am currently quite stoned and im seeing all these digital loooking, red-green and yellow dots moving all over my hands and sometimes running acrooss my monitor in a ball form.  WHoA! :crazy2:


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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: Spokesman]
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http://www.blacklite.com/Technical/history_of_fluorescence.htm

Here's a link to the discovery of a whole spectrum of colors.


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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: Rose]
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"perhaps im missing your point, but i dont have any trouble picturing a real clock or anything else for that matter. what do you mean by "transfer into the real world"? "

when you imagine a clock, it is not a clock at all, but more combined properties and memories and other associations you have with a clock. This is why images in your mind are not authentic, they are merely representations. Although you may have a solid image of your clock in your mind, only a mind would be able to recognize it because the image cannot be transfered into the physical world.


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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: manna_man]
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what, aside from a mind, is capable of recognition? to recognize is to determine what something is based on its characteristics. a clock is determined to be a clock through these combined properties and associations stored in your memory that you speak of. therefore any clock i create in my mind is just as much a clock as any clock in the physical world.

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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: Strumpling]
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About the link,
Quote:
Crosley Bendix,
Director Of Stylistic Premonitions, U.M.N.
was born in Canberra, Austria in 1940.



Do you see anything wrong written in the quoted text ?
Maybe the "al" missing is written in squant or something. Maybe Arnold S$#"$%$# was born is California and he doesn't know !

MAIA


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Use, do not abuse; neither abstinence nor excess ever renders man happy.
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Re: a color nobody has seen [Re: MAIA]
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"what, aside from a mind, is capable of recognition? to recognize is to determine what something is based on its characteristics. a clock is determined to be a clock through these combined properties and associations stored in your memory that you speak of. therefore any clock i create in my mind is just as much a clock as any clock in the physical world."

An imagined clock requires these memories, associations and characteristics to exist, whereas the physical clock can exist independent of these things.
Think of an infant who has never seen a clock in his life and you place it before him. Although he doesn't recognize it, it is still a clock isn't it? Now with this new information acquired the infant can now imagine a clock based on the memory.


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