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Living off wild plants for a month?
    #20300636 - 07/20/14 11:58 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I am competent enough to be able to identify all the food I could ever want for in plants around my area (SE OH). My question is how realistic of an idea is it for me to completely live off those plants for a month or so?


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Re: Living off wild plants for a month? [Re: captainrose]
    #20300667 - 07/20/14 12:03 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It can be done but quite honestly you will spend so many calories looking for food that you basically will be on the verge of starvation. Trapping meat, in addition to foraging is a good way to get some extra calories in but quite honestly there isn't much you can trap that will be of significant caloric value (rabbits is what i'm thinking mainly). There is a reason most of our ancestors outside of the tropics gave up hunting and gathering solely as a way of life. The shits hard man and makes for meager livings.


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Re: Living off wild plants for a month? [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #20300736 - 07/20/14 12:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

That's about what I figured, but it's really all I've got. There are plenty of rabbits around here and I've thought of that option, but the plants are guarenteed. What if I were able to combine edible plants with light packed food that I've already been living on anyway? I live in the woods right now. How do I begin to intergrate edible plants more so I'm not completely reliant on store-bought products? What kind of combinations might some backpackers on the forums recommend?


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Re: Living off wild plants for a month? [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #20301736 - 07/20/14 03:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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It can be done but quite honestly you will spend so many calories looking for food that you basically will be on the verge of starvation. Trapping meat, in addition to foraging is a good way to get some extra calories in but quite honestly there isn't much you can trap that will be of significant caloric value (rabbits is what i'm thinking mainly). There is a reason most of our ancestors outside of the tropics gave up hunting and gathering solely as a way of life. The shits hard man and makes for meager livings.




Almost true imo.  Living on plants alone even in the summer outside the tropics is a losing battle.  Take along a 22 rifle however and food is often abundant if you take whatever presents itself.  Rabbits alone are not good due to low fat content.  They are not my first choice of food.  Rattlesnakes are pretty good as is beaver, grouse, and many birds and the old standby porcupines.

I spent a lot of time in high desert canyons in summer living off a few wild edibles and lots of wild game.  However you can't be too picky about what that game is.

Taking along some dried grains makes things really fun while not a totally hunter gatherer experience. Some wild game is very tasty and makes for excellent stew or soup with some grain and wild onions. Best days of my life those were.  But you will lose any excess weight. :lol:

I'm in my 60s and my health is going fast.  You'll look back on stuff like this with a lot of pleasure. Go for it.


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Re: Living off wild plants for a month? [Re: captainrose]
    #20304989 - 07/21/14 08:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I live in the woods right now. 



Wait, the woods have internet now?
Are you camping or homeless?
if it is the second poach a deer or a goose.


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Re: Living off wild plants for a month? [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #20305648 - 07/21/14 12:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I live in the woods right now. 



Wait, the woods have internet now?
Are you camping or homeless?
if it is the second poach a deer or a goose.




I'm homeless in Ohio. I use the internet at the library or houses of friends.


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Re: Living off wild plants for a month? [Re: captainrose]
    #20306248 - 07/21/14 03:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Just had to clear that up like some people wanna play Frontiersman for a month. Sorry to hear that but if you need to live off the land hunting and fishing and trapping will help more than plants. I'm not too far from you in southwest PA So your opportunities should be plentiful through sumer and well into fall. as far as hunting and fishing. And raiding a garden or 10 wouldn't be a bad idea. But you well know come December things will get tight both food wise and work wise round these parts. I've almost been in your place a few times so I feel ya. Good luck bro :manofapproval::raisemyglass:


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Re: Living off wild plants for a month? [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #20306443 - 07/21/14 03:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I've lived around the area all my life, much of it on farms and in countryside woods on my uncle's property. I'm no complete stranger to this, but as I grow deeper in the direction life has taken me I've found I need to pick up more and more skills, of course. It is unrealistic for me to carry around a gun or bow at the moment, but trapping isn't out of the question. I've never gone hunting or had to skin an animal, though. I appreciate all the help, by the way.


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Re: Living off wild plants for a month? [Re: captainrose]
    #20330804 - 07/26/14 06:37 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

What plants do you have on your list?  I imagine season is going to dictate what and how much you find.  Have to hunt within seasons/laws too.  Tough going.  The landscape was mighty different when h&g was an option.  People cleared everything out, stockpiled them in farms.  Which brings into perspective when they fail (which they are in the process of doing) its famine time.  It'll take a mass dieing off of humans and generations worth of time to "reset" any type of balance.


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Re: Living off wild plants for a month? [Re: Amanita86]
    #20359144 - 08/01/14 06:21 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

OP, I lived for quite a few weeks on rice, combined with say, some olive oil and nuts and A BUNCH of stinging nettles that I would pick locally. I am talking 3 times a day, things like nettle soup with rice and some oatmeal in it. Rice with nettles and egg. Nettle omelet with rice or oatmeal thrown in (instead of bread). It was like that long list of shrimp products from Forrest Gump, just with nettles :lol:

The cheapo rice you buy in stores keeps you going a while, but you have to add some sort of healthy fats and some sorts of green plant matter to it. That's where your plant identifying and picking skills come in.

I believe this time of year you get those acorns falling as well. Acorn flour basically, perfectly storable and cookable, falling in fucking TONS from the trees. Google that stuff and hit it hard.

I don't eat meat so living off the land wouldn't work that well for me, but if you do, or if you can fish and have somewhere to do so, then you've got it made.

If that stuff doesn't work out, just move to Brazil, apparently there you can do this. :lol:

If I were you I'd start getting into things like wood carving or making something in those woods, that's of value to somebody. You'd be hard pressed to physically find the equivalent in calories of $10 worth of rice out there, but you could potentially create it with some practice and skills and wood and an axe. Probably doable, but you have to put your head into it, not just pick plants 100%.

trigger (the Shroomery user) is a fine wood carver, maybe drop him a :pm: see if he takes outdoorsy types as apprentices :biggrin:


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Re: Living off wild plants for a month? [Re: Spacerific]
    #20382144 - 08/06/14 10:50 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Ever read the book or watch the movie "into the wild"? Emory University graduate that went to Alaska to survive in the wild. He even had books to identify edible plants. Thought he found one plant, which ended up being a different one that looked almost identical. He ate it and died alone in alaska. Just be careful is all I can say... A ramen noodle and rice diet it possible. Ive done it :thumbup:


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Re: Living off wild plants for a month? [Re: captainrose]
    #20383088 - 08/06/14 02:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I live in the woods right now. 



Wait, the woods have internet now?
Are you camping or homeless?
if it is the second poach a deer or a goose.




I'm homeless in Ohio. I use the internet at the library or houses of friends.




hi,
aah man, ok well while others will give good replies I will try my best to help give some info.




I'm from Ireland and if like you need any help please PM me , if you ever need anything I will try my best to send you whatever I can in the mail.


But what would really be nice maybe, if there was a website that helped bring people together that were on journeys(living out in the wild,etc) for example, so like meeting up and going camping and all that, but then progressing and putting skills together to make money, then use that money to buy a second hand van,etc,etc. and it goes on. then maybe some land, start a mini farm (grow veg,etc) use that veg and maybe even sell it,etc. progressing then and moving forward.

its about taking full advantage of the situation and making that situation better than ever.


keep good :smile:

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Re: Living off wild plants for a month? [Re: slowgrowloph]
    #20383091 - 08/06/14 02:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Ever read the book or watch the movie "into the wild"? Emory University graduate that went to Alaska to survive in the wild. He even had books to identify edible plants. Thought he found one plant, which ended up being a different one that looked almost identical. He ate it and died alone in alaska. Just be careful is all I can say... A ramen noodle and rice diet it possible. Ive done it :thumbup:




"Into the Wild" is basically fiction. See article linked.
http://www.tifilms.com/wild/call_debunked.htm


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Re: Living off wild plants for a month? [Re: Workman]
    #20383908 - 08/06/14 05:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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ould really be nice maybe, if there was a website that helped bring people together that were on journeys(living out in the wild,etc) for example, so like meeting up and going camping and all that, but then progressing and putting skills together to make money, then use that money to buy a second hand van,etc,etc.



This right here.

Right now I'm couchsurfing and randomly exploring around in the Netherlands for plenty of months. Nothing I'd love more than to find a few similar minded people, buy some sort of van and live the nomadic lifestyle for a while. Sharing and dividing costs can work really well in some cases.

Not sure how the site would work, but probably very similar to couchsurfing in terms of ratings, photos, profile descriptions, etc.

Love the nomad lifestyle, I think it's a great learning / growing experience.

OP, make sure you get those nutrients properly, you can't meditate your way out of needing fats and protein and healthy food for your body and brain to run well.


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Re: Living off wild plants for a month? [Re: Spacerific]
    #20386519 - 08/07/14 04:38 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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ould really be nice maybe, if there was a website that helped bring people together that were on journeys(living out in the wild,etc) for example, so like meeting up and going camping and all that, but then progressing and putting skills together to make money, then use that money to buy a second hand van,etc,etc.



This right here.

Right now I'm couchsurfing and randomly exploring around in the Netherlands for plenty of months. Nothing I'd love more than to find a few similar minded people, buy some sort of van and live the nomadic lifestyle for a while. Sharing and dividing costs can work really well in some cases.

Not sure how the site would work, but probably very similar to couchsurfing in terms of ratings, photos, profile descriptions, etc.

Love the nomad lifestyle, I think it's a great learning / growing experience.

OP, make sure you get those nutrients properly, you can't meditate your way out of needing fats and protein and healthy food for your body and brain to run well.




Hi, that sounds awesome, and would love to help by both creating ideas and doing it.


And, its about creating it in such a way that its not a second style from normal second, its like this "arrow" in your brain and it goes straight forward..
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In general, I would love to help, any way I can. And to really create something, that is truly magical, and that truly effects it on a higher level, as in its not just couch surfing anymore, its a way of living, and in a way that's [ITS 100% safe, your survival needs are 100% more than 100% secure .

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Re: Living off wild plants for a month? [Re: fluffy clouds]
    #20386734 - 08/07/14 06:54 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

What do you mean, "just" couch surfing? This happens to currently be my main way of exploring the world and run into the people I need to run into, and learning the things I need to learn. It's not "just" couch surfing, it's THE couch surfing experience!!! :banana:

The survival needs of anybody, at any time, anywhere, will be less than 100% secure. I kinda get what you're saying, just throwing in a bit of realism.

Maybe we could get something off the ground here. Certainly we (as trippers and explorers) are in a position to need this, and if we get something going and provide a good example, once we set up the system, others with similar needs or lifestyle preferences would join in. Neo-nomads fo the win :biggrin:


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Re: Living off wild plants for a month? [Re: Spacerific]
    #20386939 - 08/07/14 08:17 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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What do you mean, "just" couch surfing? This happens to currently be my main way of exploring the world and run into the people I need to run into, and learning the things I need to learn. It's not "just" couch surfing, it's THE couch surfing experience!!! :banana:

The survival needs of anybody, at any time, anywhere, will be less than 100% secure. I kinda get what you're saying, just throwing in a bit of realism.

Maybe we could get something off the ground here. Certainly we (as trippers and explorers) are in a position to need this, and if we get something going and provide a good example, once we set up the system, others with similar needs or lifestyle preferences would join in. Neo-nomads fo the win :biggrin:




Well, maybe about bringing nomads together. So as in, there's some connection website. So its about meeting up with others doing the same as you, and then working together for example. The main thing would be, for some type of connection (the first thing)

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Re: Living off wild plants for a month? [Re: Workman]
    #20396677 - 08/09/14 05:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Ever read the book or watch the movie "into the wild"? Emory University graduate that went to Alaska to survive in the wild. He even had books to identify edible plants. Thought he found one plant, which ended up being a different one that looked almost identical. He ate it and died alone in alaska. Just be careful is all I can say... A ramen noodle and rice diet it possible. Ive done it :thumbup:




"Into the Wild" is basically fiction. See article linked.
http://www.tifilms.com/wild/call_debunked.htm



Im not so sure fiction.  If you watch the movie The Doors, its bullshit right?  A film has to be a film but it doesnt mean the story of Jim Morrison is fiction. 

Into The Wild is the story of someone who had a glorified illusion in his brain, and acted on it.  Reality isnt a glorified illusion though.  I want to say... there was a boat launch 1/4 mile away from that bus he died in.  He didnt scout his territory.  He didnt train.  And he died.  Simple as that.  I respect his personal constitution and desires, but his execution in the matter was incorrect and cost him his life.  1+1 = 2 regardless of what your fantasy tickles you into believing. 

Id buy him a beer and bullshit for awhile :shrug:


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Re: Living off wild plants for a month? [Re: Amanita86]
    #20397780 - 08/09/14 11:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It's not fiction at all. Well maybe some details here and there :lol:

Here's the actual dude. He very much starved in a bus in Alaska. Awesome cautionary tale about starting in small doses whatever one does, and working one's way up from there.

Oh man, upon reading his page,and the pages of others who died in similar wildlife situations, it kind of reminds me that I too need a little more preparation for my adventures. (Currently on a random trip around the Netherlands, since Christmas). I'm not in the wild, but certainly the better one prepares, the better one thrives.


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Re: Living off wild plants for a month? [Re: Amanita86]
    #20403321 - 08/11/14 11:44 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Have to hunt within seasons/laws too. 


:awewtf: OP already stated he's homeless do you really think he's concerned about seasons and bag limits! :psycrankey:


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