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Re: A questions or two about the matrix [Re: Alan Stone]
    #2032186 - 10/22/03 11:38 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

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Alan Stone said:
There is no logical reason why Zion would be founded by humans. The first person to escape the Matrix was naked. How does a naked person dig through the earth towards the core? How does a naked person build houses? Why is there breathable air in the tunnels through the earth? Machines have no need for it, do they? Conclusion: the machines want Zion to exist.

Second: Neo stopping the Sentinels in the 'real world'. He can feel them. He can stop them. So maybe this door he took is just a hyperlink to another Matrix?
It would make sense, the portal to the mainframe brought him to the architect, and from there on there were two options:
1) a link to another, seperate 'real real world' Matrix (choice two: hope) - trapping him inside another Matrix with different code while the machines destroy Zion

or

2) the salvation of his race. 




I think that "Zion" and all fo that, also exists i na "matrix".  Neo realized that, and realized that he can control this "matrix" as much as he can the other one(flying and whatnot).

Or not :smile:


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Re: A questions or two about the matrix [Re: Strumpling]
    #2032207 - 10/22/03 11:42 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

"Music, Art, and Literature."

Yeah, people mostly use that to post recommendations... I'd like to see a place where people actually discuss things. There was a literature forum for a while... but again, not a lot of posters.


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Re: A questions or two about the matrix [Re: Phluck]
    #2035089 - 10/23/03 02:44 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Being that the matrix is designed around giving the humans a perceived choice, I think that both choices presented to Neo are false in that they will both lead to the same end via different pathes. I think there is another choice Neo can make that will be the undoing of the Matrix. What is he chooses not to choose? After all if the Architect is right and they need Zion for things to work, are the sentinals actualy going to destroy Zion or are they there to force Neo to choose from the choices presented to him by the matrix. His only hope to break the cycle is to choose outside of what the Matrix presents .


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Re: A questions or two about the matrix [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #2038620 - 10/24/03 12:04 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Is the Keymaker a computer program or a human?


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Re: A questions or two about the matrix [Re: pattern]
    #2038637 - 10/24/03 12:09 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Program


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Re: A questions or two about the matrix [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #2039370 - 10/24/03 12:17 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

I was thinking about this last nite, and came up with the following:

The humans have already busted out of the Matrix a long time ago, but the machines are unaware. The machines are actually in a human built matrix and Neo is actually another program.


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Re: A questions or two about the matrix [Re: Seuss]
    #2039819 - 10/24/03 02:19 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

If the humans were to 'break out' and massively awaken every human being, maybe that would be worse for the world. If the computers/machiens had trillions of batteries/humans in little pods, then they all became sentient, where would they live? And, if the images shown of these pods are real, and not in another 'matrix', then the world is still uninhabital..

Weird shit.


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In response to an attack killing 15 American Servicemen
PsiloKitten said:
Just give em a little more time, the iraqis are making great progress. And this is unorganized. Wait till they get organized.

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Re: A questions or two about the matrix [Re: lysergic]
    #2039973 - 10/24/03 02:49 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

maybe the matrix was created by bill gates and the us government. they control the machines and therefore reap the benefits of the enslavement of mankind.

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