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What's a good site to buy computer parts? + look at my setup
#20304924 - 07/21/14 08:06 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm building a gaming desktop and I've been researching what parts I want to put in that beast. Willing to drop $2000 on it.
I'm looking at amazon for some parts but it seems like it might cost more using that route, anyone know a good site preferably in Canada that I can get my parts from?
Here's what I got so far, none of this is set in stone this is just a rough outline.
Processor- Going to go with Intel. i5-3570, i5 2500k, i53570 or i53570k.
Motherboard- No clue yet, something that will be compatible with my processor and graphics card.
Graphic Card- I think I'm going to max out my $ on this component, probably get a Nvdiaia Geforce GTX 690
Ram- 8 GB
Storage- going to get a SSD and a large hard drive combo.
Case- Something large enough to hold all my stuff, nothing fancy.
Fan(s)- ? Power- Not sure on the wattage here, 1000w might be over kill Im thinking?
I've got notes on some of these components, this is my first time buying and attempting to put together a computer. I still have a lot more to learn, only watched a few videos and read a few articles so I'm pretty new to all this. Any advice would be appreciated. Either on a good website to order parts from or tips on components, anything really.
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Re: What's a good site to buy computer parts? + look at my setup [Re: The5thElement]
#20305943 - 07/21/14 01:49 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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For 2000 you should be able to build a way better system then that!
Unless 2k canuckian is way way less then 2k american right now. I didnt bother to look.
16GB ram minimum.
SSD for your boot drive minimum, ideally get one that you can also fit a few games on since its a gaming rig.
Might as well get an I7 IMO. Since your spending the cash to do it right. I know for purely gaming there isn't a huge boost over an i5 but there is some and there are other things the I7's speed will assist outside of games.
Def get a K process so you can EASILY overclock. Thats one of the biggest performance enchancing things you can do easily.
Does newegg have a canuckian site?
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Re: What's a good site to buy computer parts? + look at my setup [Re: mndfreeze]
#20305975 - 07/21/14 01:58 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you want a pc builder to do the work for you and get a warrenty you can check out
http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Weekly-Gamer-Special
Or, I got my computer from cyberpowerpc.com about a year and a half ago. For me specifically the sale they had and the fact I got a 3 year warranty. Made it worth it. When I tried to pick out simliar parts myself and build it the shipping costs put is so close to the price from cyberpower it just made sense to have them do it all. My system was 1400 and is an i7-3820 (overclocked to 4.43ghz currently) 16GB of some corsair gamer ram I cant remember the name of. Gigabyte x79 board, 2 SSD drives, and an nvidia geforce gtx680 w 2/g ram. Think I put an 800 watt power supply, and a neato case, oh and a 240mm dual fan cpu watercooler. I picked up a 2TB WD 'green' drive later for mass storage
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Re: What's a good site to buy computer parts? + look at my setup [Re: The5thElement]
#20306462 - 07/21/14 03:58 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Canuckians mostly use NCIX for parts I think. Or Amazon.ca, TigerDirect.ca You can do Newegg but you'd probably get charged imports/duties and shit. Actually they have newegg.ca too, nvm.
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Re: What's a good site to buy computer parts? + look at my setup [Re: The5thElement]
#20306518 - 07/21/14 04:07 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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This is what I would recommend OP with that kind of budget:
i7-4790K Corsair H100i watercooler Z97 motherboard (Pick your flavor and price range.. Asus/MSI is a good choice) GPU - GTX 770 4GB RAM - 16GB 1600MHz 256GB Intel or Samsung SSD 1TB/3TB Western Digital Black Corsair 750D / Corsair 760T / 500R/ Coolermaster HAF X 942 case Fans - Corsair AF120/SP120 or Scythe Slipstream/Gentle Typhoon PSU - Seasonic 860w platinum
I just built a similar system for a guy two days ago, it smokes. That should fall just in the 2k range. If over you can go cheaper on the mobo or case. Or PSU but make SURE you get a quality PSU, gold or platinum rated. Seasonic, Corsair, Coolermaster, trusted names only.
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Re: What's a good site to buy computer parts? + look at my setup [Re: The5thElement]
#20306747 - 07/21/14 04:52 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Here OP, I made it super duper easy for you
Clicky clicky http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jZxjBm
Comes in UNDER 2k using top quality parts
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Re: What's a good site to buy computer parts? + look at my setup [Re: Shroomism]
#20309391 - 07/22/14 01:29 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks guys, really appreciate all the info.
I've decided to get one pre made, I checked out newegg.ca and Ibuypower and decided to go with the later, they ship to Canada... It's going to cost an extra 100$ approx for shipping, but I really like they way the site is layed out and how easily I can customize my pc. So that's why I've so far choosen to use that site. Tell me what you think about this
Intel Core i74820 K processor (4x 3.70 ghz/10 MB L3 cache Asetek 510 LC Liquid cooling with ARC Dual silent high performance fans 16GB DDr3-1600 memory module NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 4 GB
I get for free 1 turtle beach Z1 Headset Free McAfee Antivirus plus 2014 (should I get this, it's optional) Free genius GX-Speed gaming mouse pad
Motherboard I have a few options either Asus P9x79 Le-2x USB 3.0 Asus Sabertooth x79- 4x SATA g GB/s 4 x USB 3.0 or this one that's recommended in my default pc Build Gigabyte Ga-X790UP4-4X PCI-E 2.0x16
850 Watt- Corsair RM850-80 plus gold, full modular SSD- 256 GB Samsung 840 pro SSD Read: 540 MB/s Write 520MB/s single drive
2 TB WD Black Hard drive- 64 M cache, 7200 rpm, 6.0 gb/s single drive
Optic drive 24 x LG dual Format/double layer DVD +R/+RW Black Sound Card is 3D premium surround sound onboard Should I get windows 8.1 pro or wind 7 ultimate ?? Case is Corsair Graphite Series 230 T Ibuypower Standard gaming keyboard Plus Ibuypower standard gaming mouse Professional wiring of cables and advanced packaging system both 20$ a piece system is easily removable custom padding solution moulded perfectly to my system preventing components from shifting or coming loose during shipping.
3 year standard warranty which is 3 years labor 1 year parts. Total is running me 2185$ plus 109$ for shipping totalling to $2294.00
Mind you I don't have a monitor or speakers yet.
What do you guys think, don't include the shipping just 2185$ is this a decent deal? Also do you think I should get windows 8 or 7?
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Re: What's a good site to buy computer parts? + look at my setup [Re: The5thElement]
#20309479 - 07/22/14 02:12 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Looks pretty solid. 
Ditch the McAffee, it sucks.. get a free antivirus like Avast or AVG Get Windows 7 Ultimate.
Although you could build that exact same system for cheaper.. that's why I generally recommend building your own. But if you don't want to be hassled with putting it together.. That's the price you pay for convenience I guess.
Also only a one year warranty on parts.. no beuno.. what if your GPU fails in one year and two days? You gotta pay for a new one. If you bought the parts yourself individually I guarantee most of them would come with a 2-3 year warranty by default, some longer or extendable. Just know you are getting inferior warranties. That GPU would come with a 3-year warranty by default if you bought it yourself, and you could likely extend it up to a 10 year warranty if it's the company I think it is, but ibuypower is using 1-year warranty cards because they get them for cheaper, and no you cannot extend the warranties on those cards, at least not through the GPU company. Perhaps through ibuypower but I don't know.
It's really up to you. Building a system is not all that hard.
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Re: What's a good site to buy computer parts? + look at my setup [Re: Shroomism]
#20309612 - 07/22/14 03:42 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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For example, here I priced together the EXACT same build (substituting a few parts like the CPU cooler / ibuypower keyboard and stuff) and put in a nice quality keyboard and mouse, headset, AND a decent monitor and still it's under the Ibuypower price... and you get longer warranty on all the parts.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wJJZ99
~200 less than the ibuypower build, same components, better keyboard and mouse, plus a monitor, and some extra fans. Minus the OS. Take out the monitor and add the OS to mimic the ibuypower build and you are about ~260 less for the custom build.
So if you think it's worth it to pay ~200+ extra to not have to put it together yourself, and don't mind only having a 1-year warranty on parts instead of 3/5/10 years, then go for it.
But I gotta tell ya man, I used to work for one of those GPU companies. Our normal cards anywhere else carried a 3-year, or some even a Lifetime warranty. But if you bought them from Cyberpower/Ibuypower/ one of the custom prebuilt places, they alone carry special 1-year warranty cards you couldn't get anywhere else but through them. They buy them in bulk and since they carry an inferior warranty they get a big discount. People used to get so pissed off when they called to warranty their $1000 card but we see it's only a one year warranty and it's like one year and six months, but it's not our problem... call Cyberpower/Ibuypower. Used to hurt my soul to see a GTX 690 or something only a year old and out of warranty. Customers would bitch and bitch.. everyone else gets a 3/5/10 year / lifetime warranty, how come I don't? Cause you bought it from Cyberpower.. complain to them..they are the one that sold you an inferior warranty.
If you bought it from Newegg/Tiger/Amazon/ANYWHERE else it would have a 3-year warranty by default, and you can pay $10-20 to extend the warranty to 5years or to 10years. If you buy it from Ibuypower you get a 1-year warranty and that's it. That's just for the GPU. Similar story for the other components, they mostly all carry longer than a one year warranty if you didn't buy them through ibuypower. For example the PSU has a 5-year warranty through Corsair. Unless you buy it from Ibuypower, then only 1 year. Corsair RAM is lifetime warranty.
That 3 years of labor only covers their labor to swap the part out if something goes bad.. but if the part is out of warranty it's out of warranty and you gotta buy a new one. Then you gotta send the entire rig back to them...vs. just sending the defective part when warrantying something individually. I personally wouldn't be comfortable with just a 1 year warranty on parts myself.. not knowing that if I bought those same parts myself, I would save money AND have a 3-5 year to LIFETIME warranty on all the parts.
A 3 year warranty on a video card means if you send it in for warranty service after 2 years, you will mostly likely get an upgrade, as the model you send in is likely to be obsolete at that point, so they replace it with something of equal or greater performance. Goes for most parts. I mean that's just me but I'd prefer to have the longer warranties for a number of reasons. A 5-10 year warranty on a video card is insane, because it can just "break" somehow every few years, you send it in and keep getting upgraded. I've seen people with lifetime warranties go from a 7900GT to a GTX 680 over 8-9 years or something, they just keep doing RMAs and occasionally getting upgrades through the generations. Now that's getting your money's worth. But Lifetime warranties are mostly gone, except XFX I think still does them. Still 5-10 years is insane in terms of GPU technology. Most gamers upgrade once every 3 years or so is the average.
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Re: What's a good site to buy computer parts? + look at my setup [Re: Shroomism]
#20311445 - 07/22/14 03:30 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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What your saying makes sense, I've done some adjusting narrowed it down to 2 Canadian and 1 American suppler for the parts.... Had to re-adjust again because some parts apparently could not be mailed to me.
Still looking for an able suppler to give me this part: Intel 520 Series Solid-State Drive 240 GB SATA 6 Gb/s 2.5-Inch - SSDSC2CW240A310 (Drive Only)
There's some on Amazon but for some reason they can't mail it to my city... Every other part, with the exception of one fan I was able to get based off the build you recommended. Do you know of a reputable site that has that solid state drive? I've been trying to narrow it down to the least amount of suppliers, Newegg.ca and Amazon.ca can't do it, Outlet PC can't either. Those are the three suppliers I'm using.
I'd prefer to assemble my own pc, but getting it premade does seem to be more convenient at the cost of more money like you say. If there is a differen't SSD thats just as good as the one recommended... and I could get it off of either three of those suppliers that would be great.
I just feel overwhelmed trying to substitute components because I'm not sure how to tell what's compatible with what.
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Re: What's a good site to buy computer parts? + look at my setup [Re: The5thElement]
#20311852 - 07/22/14 05:22 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Check NCIX ... I'm sure that's where most of our Canadian customers shop for computer parts.
I would highly recommend either a Intel or Samsung SSD. Corsair is good as well. And yep they do carry them - http://www.ncix.com/detail/intel-520-series-240gb-2-5in-94-67668.htm Although Ouch that's pricey.. it's only 150 on Amazon US...check Samsung drives too
As for checking what is compatible... everything linked above is. The MAIN thing you need to be worried about it the CPU socket type (i7-4820 is LGA 2011) - so you need to use an LGA 2011 Motherboard (X79). As well the CPU cooler must support the same socket type. Installing the CPU and cooler is also the hardest part. You just have to make sure you put the CPU in the correct way, very carefully without bending any pins in the socket.
Aside from that, everything is pretty much plug and play. RAM has to be DDR3, @ 1.5v (Corsair Vengeance series, G.Skill RipjawX, and some others). Case has to support the motherboard form factor (ATX), which it does. Almost all commercial PSUs are standard ATX so nothing to worry about there either, just make sure you get a decent PSU with enough wattage for your entire system, plus about 150watts for headroom.
Matching the CPU + motherboard + cooler is the main thing you need to be worried about when it comes to compatibility. RAM just get any DDR3 @ 1.5v. GPU doesn't matter as long as it's PCI-E. Case has to support ATX. All modern Hard drives and SSDs / Optical drives etc are all SATA, nothing to worry about there.
It takes me about an hour to put a basic gaming system together from scratch, maybe another hour to perfect cable management and install OS/drivers etc. Although I have been doing it a while.
It's really up to you. Just trying to save you a few bucks, and I feel you get more satisfaction out of doing it yourself. Let me know if you have any questions about anything, compatibility or whatever.
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Re: What's a good site to buy computer parts? + look at my setup [Re: Shroomism]
#20314143 - 07/23/14 01:53 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Dude seriously thank you so much. I'm going to list all the parts, if you don't mind just let me know if anything stands out as incompatible.
SSD----- Samsung 840 Evo Series MZ-7TE250BW 250GB 2.5in SATA III Internal SSD Single Unit Version
From NCIX ^^^^
EVGA 04G-P4-3776-KR GeForce GTX 770 4GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support FTW 4GB Dual w/ EVGA ACX Cooler Video Card
CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10B
Corsair Air Series AF120 CO-9050015-PLED 120mm Purple LED Quiet Edition High Airflow Fan ...... 2 fans.
CORSAIR Hydro Series H100i Extreme Performance Water/Liquid CPU Cooler. 240mm
ASUS Z97-PRO LGA 1150 Intel Z97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i7-4790K Haswell Quad-Core 4.0GHz LGA 1150 Desktop Processor BX80646I74790K
1ST PC CORP. FC-FC2-S Lamptron 5.25" 6-channel fan controller, 45w/channel, 3-pin fan & molex power connector
All of the above is from newegg.ca
Western Digital WD1002FAEX Black 1TB 7200RPM 6.0Gb/s SATA3 Hard Drive
This is from outletpc.com
The bottom stuff is from Amazon
Asus 24x DVD-RW Serial-ATA Internal OEM Optical Drive DRW-24B1ST
Corsair Graphite Series Black 760T Full Tower Windowed Case CC-9011044-WW
SeaSonic Platinum SS-860XP2 Power Supply
I had a number of things picked out on amazon, but they've currently gone out of stock while I've been making this list. Kinda frustrating.
This is everything I have now, just want to make sure it's all good. Let me know if you think I'm missing anything and seriously thank you man I really do appreciate it.
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Re: What's a good site to buy computer parts? + look at my setup [Re: The5thElement]
#20314152 - 07/23/14 01:55 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Also let me know if you think I should get three fans, or two will do the job with the CPU cooler. I think you recommended 3 in the initial build but I may be wrong. Thanks again.
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Re: What's a good site to buy computer parts? + look at my setup [Re: The5thElement]
#20314215 - 07/23/14 02:17 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Amazon is going to be
Items (3): $392.17 Shipping & handling: $131.06 Total before tax: $523.23 Estimated tax to be collected: $0.00 Import Fees Deposit $19.61 Order total: $542.84
Outlet PC is
$104.95 plus s/h ( 16$) = 121.95$
New egg is
1,355.92
Total is $2020.71
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Re: What's a good site to buy computer parts? + look at my setup [Re: The5thElement]
#20314258 - 07/23/14 02:36 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shit I have to redo this again
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Re: What's a good site to buy computer parts? + look at my setup [Re: The5thElement]
#20314283 - 07/23/14 02:47 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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So the only thing I changed is that I'm getting the exact same case and the power supply from newegg instead of amazon...
S/H from amazon is crazy.
So now new total is $1,785.90 from newegg.
outlet PC is
$104.95 plus s/h ( 16$) = 121.95$
Amazon is $37.33
Totaling at $1945.18 and a slight headache holy fuck.
Newegg server is down right now too, so that's great
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Re: What's a good site to buy computer parts? + look at my setup [Re: The5thElement]
#20314332 - 07/23/14 03:07 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Score! Looks solid I'm slightly jealous.
I only suggested extra fans because most people usually want them. The case you are getting comes with 3 fans already in it, and the H100i comes with two fans which are good enough. Most people usually want fans on the side panel (however the 760T doesn't have a side panel fan opening, strange.) So you probably don't even need them.. unless you get a different case with side panel fans, or want to mount the extra fans on the bottom of the case or an extra hard drive area/ blowing on the GPU fan.. the case does have 8 mounting points for fans.
If you want one with side panel fans, check out the C70
The fan controller means you wont have 20 different fan wires going to your motherboard like spaghetti. Any of the Corsair cases have fantastic cable management motherboard back panels, you can route ALL the cables through the back to their various locations for a nice and clean install.
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Re: What's a good site to buy computer parts? + look at my setup [Re: Shroomism]
#20316295 - 07/23/14 02:57 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ah ok, thanks man. I'm just going to buy 1 extra fan then, should be good. Even with all your help this is still turning out to be a pain in the ass; for some reason I can't complete my order on newegg. I've contacted them and they told me this:
Please clear the cookies of your browser and try again. If you happen to use a firewall, please temporarily disable it. If it does not work, please try another browser or attempt on another computer
Well done all that, I think... Cleared my cookies, firewall was disabled; even got out my old labtop and tried to make a smaller order and still it won't work. I'm on a mac now, I duno what to do now I'm pretty annoyed now
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Re: What's a good site to buy computer parts? + look at my setup [Re: The5thElement]
#20316529 - 07/23/14 03:53 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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What's the problem with it? Getting an error or something? On checkout or what. Try firefox or chrome or something
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Re: What's a good site to buy computer parts? + look at my setup [Re: Shroomism]
#20316595 - 07/23/14 04:09 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah on checkout, I'll try on firefox or chrome once I get home tonight from work I suppose.
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