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FriendlyFace
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Re: Man rips off penis while tripping on shrooms [Re: prettyMushy]
#20303010 - 07/20/14 08:15 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah I don't even consider salvia psychedelic, just fucking weird. even if it's super visual I never end up coming out of it with anything worthwhile.
EDIT: also i'm pretty sure I once saw an episode of doctor phil where he said salvia was stronger than LSD and my instinct is to go against whatever doctor phil says when nit comes to drugs. I think that's pretty fair.
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Re: Man rips off penis while tripping on shrooms [Re: lessismore]
#20304337 - 07/21/14 01:17 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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lessismore said: I like it and my friends like it Diffetent for everybody Pins andf needles isnt everytime
Only if you watch hellraiser first 

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Re: Man rips off penis while tripping on shrooms [Re: FriendlyFace]
#20304372 - 07/21/14 01:35 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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FriendlyFace said: yeah I don't even consider salvia psychedelic, just fucking weird. even if it's super visual I never end up coming out of it with anything worthwhile.
EDIT: also i'm pretty sure I once saw an episode of doctor phil where he said salvia was stronger than LSD and my instinct is to go against whatever doctor phil says when nit comes to drugs. I think that's pretty fair.
Salvia IS stronger than LSD
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Re: Man rips off penis while tripping on shrooms [Re: theRAPeutic]
#20304635 - 07/21/14 04:59 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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penis ripping off is a concerning issue: people have to learn to be more gentle with bits an pieces of themselves and others.
the salvia/lsd debate has no footing, salvia's action is in less than an hour and lsd acts over several hours from fewer micrograms. both are physically safe (not including bad ideas that a person may try), and both will enable all mental states from normal to blackout or white out
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Re: Man rips off penis while tripping on shrooms [Re: redgreenvines]
#20304750 - 07/21/14 06:43 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Salvinorin is active in the microgram range, lasts a shorter amount of time, but honestly I think it is much more intense than LSD dose for dose. It would take a LOT of acid to get anywhere near the salvia mindfuck.
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Re: Man rips off penis while tripping on shrooms [Re: redgreenvines]
#20305280 - 07/21/14 10:13 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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redgreenvines said: penis ripping off is a concerning issue: people have to learn to be more gentle with bits an pieces of themselves and others.
the salvia/lsd debate has no footing, salvia's action is in less than an hour and lsd acts over several hours from fewer micrograms. both are physically safe (not including bad ideas that a person may try), and both will enable all mental states from normal to blackout or white out
But LSD you can get lost in for hours and hours, savlias just a few min, its a kids drug imo, lsd will put you into shock after ripping your face off, salvia by the time i realize whats going on im already comming down
ive had several 5+ hour peaks like this
id perfer dmt over salvia any day
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lessismore
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Re: Man rips off penis while tripping on shrooms [Re: prettyMushy]
#20314654 - 07/23/14 06:51 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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no high dose lsd trip could prepare me for salvia, not even for 5x salvia
it is very intense, be careful, and probably not for everyone... shamanic interested/people who don't fear may like it
LSD is childsplay compared to salvia IMO, salvia can be/is often dangerous without a sitter
they can't be compared, but a sitter is always recommended for salvia
I never needed a sitter for lsd, not even for the time I did 16-18 hits, was a "safe car ride".
shrooms I have to be careful with though, they don't feel as safe for my psyche somehow less in control with those... anything can happen even on 3.5g sometimes..., while other times nothing happens on 4-5g , not even a trip
another thing with salvia that seems to be for me, all trips are remembered clearly in vivid detail afterwards just like a lucid dream like you really experienced it so I don't recommend doing it unless you really want to, it can feel like a new life just started the last time you smoked it... too intense maybe takes you out of body everytime, or almost everytime, but not in a pleasant way
in a way that may / may not scar you, depending on how you process your fear
be ready for lsd,shrooms , but I'm not sure one can be ready for salvia, at least not the way it is usually smoked, maybe chewing and laying down
I will not recommend smoking salvia extract personally, it felt much too disassociating, didn't feel completely back in my body afterwards somehow, and dizzy in a weird way after too
Only for shamans, or people with sitters and preferably chewed most people recommend, extract is only if you have no fears and no problems
I can't imagine what could happen if you gave salvia to a kid..... the confusion it brings, the fear, and it might be stored in memory like a real life event somehow it seems I remember them as clearly as any of my lucid dreams, so as lifechanging as those
I wouldn't want to lucid dream every night even if I could, because I have to face my worst fear everytime in those seems just about the same with salvia, wouldn't want to smoke extract every night
Salvia and shrooms are the psychedelics that may easily kick your ass, where people complain that they once ate 1/4th and never again, then they started taking coke on the street to deal with it/for other reasons 
Know substance, know your minds limits
Some people may be able to do salvia often, it isn't for me at this time, it can feel dangerous to the psyche somehow..
Would much rather do LSD, always pleasant for me
Shrooms anything can happen on too, but LSD is more controlable for me usually
The thing with salvia, it always feel like you don't get 100% back to this reality right away, which can be very unpleasant not sure how long it takes to get back, but it usually took me a few weeks to feel back afterwards
Salvia is no joke just because it is a few mins, it feels like a lifetime and like a new life just began, you got separated from your old identity, -every time-
I could imagine many people freaking out over this... I think I will agree that 20x salvia is only for shamans or people not afraid of anything (or a once in a lifetime trip perhaps with a good sitter that doesn't mess with you..)
Edited by lessismore (07/23/14 07:09 AM)
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Re: Man rips off penis while tripping on shrooms [Re: SomeGuyX]
#20314665 - 07/23/14 06:56 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Man rips off penis while tripping on shrooms [Re: lessismore]
#20314678 - 07/23/14 07:03 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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It seems that I have to learn to let go with each different psychedelic, so shrooms become easier and easier, or kicks my ass if I am not ready
Salvia you have to learn to let go with too
Even if you have learned to let go 1000 times with LSD it seems, because they are new psychedelics and can surprise you
I usually accept what is coming, accept the trip
Salvia may become pleasant after doing it 100 times i.e., but I would never start with 60x of it, what that can do may be irreversible in worst case... Start low, even 5x may be too much for some people perhaps (once the real trip begins)
I don't think salvia is for everybody, but I can't say why precisely, perhaps the disassociation from ones body feeling... can be unpleasant if it doesn't cease after the trip.
You might even have the needles on your skin feeling for a day after too, or week after. seems that can last too.. being unable to feel your skin
Doesn't feel as harmless as lsd/shrooms to me, and they're not harmless either, going into the subconscious is never harmless, but risks can be minimized if you know what you're doing. But with salvia you cannot control, you just become part of the trip , if you smoke it like most people do.
Laying down is the best way if one must absolutely smoke salvia..
I would rather lucid dream, feels more harmless, it's natural anybody can learn it (www.ld4all.com ,www.dreamviews.com)
The mind can make the best trip of them all for free, anybody can learn to do it at any time very close to a salvia trip, except much more control, and no skin being peeled off
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Re: Man rips off penis while tripping on shrooms [Re: lessismore]
#20314713 - 07/23/14 07:16 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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mmmhmmm, I have only lost complete reality to visuals of salvia. The visuals and physical feelings are cool and salvia has reverse tolerance.
My fav psychedelic has always been shrooms + weed but I continue to try DMT once in a while to get a breakthrough and I know I will buy a salvia plant when I have the extra funds.
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Re: Man rips off penis while tripping on shrooms [Re: prettyMushy]
#20316573 - 07/23/14 04:04 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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prettyMushy said: If you think salvia is stronger than acid your trippin. Youve obviously not had good strong doses
I would agree that salvia is stronger, the trips that we've had even surpass dmt, its just that with salvia there is no control whatsoever, you instantly brain fart for 10 minutes while it takes effect.
I had a book fall through me, as the pages of existence turned I saw an invisible page come down and crush me into oblivion, this happened several times, I would compare it to the stereotypical crushing room torture, it literally felt like I got squished. My friend said he turned into a loaf of bread one time, he also had a trip where the entire roof of his house got ripped off, and a giant picked him up by the neck of his shirt and threw him in the air, I've never experienced anything that intense on any drug.
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Re: Man rips off penis while tripping on shrooms [Re: lessismore]
#20333051 - 07/26/14 03:52 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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lessismore said:
I never needed a sitter for lsd, not even for the time I did 16-18 hits, was a "safe car ride".
im telling you, your shit is weak. 1 1/2 of the lsd i have you wont be able to drive, if you think 16-18 hits is shit ok almost all lsd on the street is weak as fuck, and unless you personally are buying about 5k worth of acid your going to have a hard time locating strong acid. i didnt start getting real acid till i had gone though 50+ sheets
ever watch a comet hurl towards the sun, blow up create a blackhole , people catch on fire, start running for their lives while the dead rise up from the ground??
on 1 1/2 hits of acid??? if you havent gotten that far on 16-18 doses then you have no real LSD exp
im not denying that salvia is strong.
im showing you that you dont know wtf your talking about when it comes to lsd, so you cant compare it when you havent been there
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Edited by prettyMushy (07/26/14 04:04 PM)
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Re: Man rips off penis while tripping on shrooms [Re: Methodology]
#20333139 - 07/26/14 04:07 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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prettyMushy said: If you think salvia is stronger than acid your trippin. Youve obviously not had good strong doses
I would agree that salvia is stronger, the trips that we've had even surpass dmt, its just that with salvia there is no control whatsoever, you instantly brain fart for 10 minutes while it takes effect.
I had a book fall through me, as the pages of existence turned I saw an invisible page come down and crush me into oblivion, this happened several times, I would compare it to the stereotypical crushing room torture, it literally felt like I got squished. My friend said he turned into a loaf of bread one time, he also had a trip where the entire roof of his house got ripped off, and a giant picked him up by the neck of his shirt and threw him in the air, I've never experienced anything that intense on any drug.
ive experienced more intense shit on air duster when i was 13 (over 10 years ago)
example: inhaling then exhaling, and when you blow on the paint on your wall, the air moves behind the paint and ripples all the way up the wall then when you inhale again all the paint, sucks back up against the wall then starts violently melting down into piles of blob till you see just the frame of your house, then the whole house catches on fire and is constanty burning, so you run out of your house and spiderman appears out of nowhere and shoots a web over the walls recreating the sheet rock and paint bringing the room back to normal.
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Edited by prettyMushy (07/26/14 04:29 PM)
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