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Offlineichaelma
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what was I thinking I ate one of these! ID help.
    #2030246 - 10/21/03 10:17 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)


found these growing in a football field washington.
gills are almost white almond color not attached
stem is white staining brown very strong not hollow
cap is carmel color wavy with age.
spore print is white.

I ate one of these, am in trouble??





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Re: what was I thinking I ate one of these! ID help. [Re: ichaelma]
    #2030301 - 10/21/03 10:29 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

At what time did you consume these? Are you feeling any stomach discomfort? Could you take one more closeup of the stem and gills?


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Re: what was I thinking I ate one of these! ID help. [Re: bcustom]
    #2030310 - 10/21/03 10:31 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I ate it about 1 hr ago I feel ok excep the anxity I feel now after
seeing some pics of galerina.
pic coming soon about 10 min.
thanks for your help.


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Re: what was I thinking I ate one of these! ID help. [Re: bcustom]
    #2030322 - 10/21/03 10:33 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

They look and sound to me like  Marasmius oreades, the fairy ring mushroom. If so, they're edible so you should be alright.  But if you start puking and such get help.

Oh, BTW, if you don't know what it is, don't eat it :smirk:...

DH


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Re: what was I thinking I ate one of these! ID help. [Re: ]
    #2030354 - 10/21/03 10:41 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

heres a closeup


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Re: what was I thinking I ate one of these! ID help. [Re: ichaelma]
    #2030362 - 10/21/03 10:42 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

They do not appear to be deadly, and sporeprint, habitat, and pictures point to Marasmius oreades. However, It is extremely important that you realize the seriousness and the shear stupidity of what you did. Those could have easily been deadly galerinas, or another poisonious species. Its things like this that give mycology and the mushroom culture a bad name, and you should realize how truly stupid what you did was.


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Re: what was I thinking I ate one of these! ID help. [Re: ichaelma]
    #2030364 - 10/21/03 10:43 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

You just broke the golden rule. I hope you survive and others learn from this post.


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Re: what was I thinking I ate one of these! ID help. [Re: Stymee]
    #2030390 - 10/21/03 10:50 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I think your right dethHed they look like and match the description.
thanks everyone.
Ya pretty stupid, I know, its just so tempting. I thought for sure they were active. untill I did more research.
I sure am glad for the shroomery.


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Re: what was I thinking I ate one of these! ID help. [Re: ichaelma]
    #2031047 - 10/22/03 01:25 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

What's up with everyone trying to kill themselves recently? Jeez, if you're dying to get high (pun totally intended) just go get some fucking cough syrup or dramamine. Don't fuck around with mushrooms unless you're willing to put the requisite time and effort into your identification skills. Sheesh. <Jumps off his soapbox>


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Re: what was I thinking I ate one of these! ID help. [Re: davidg47]
    #2031118 - 10/22/03 01:51 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

it's a disturbing surge in an ever present trend.

i do not like to make someone in this situation feel worse, but i hope you will never do taht again. it could easily have spelled your end, or a verry unpleasant existance dependant uppon supportive medical treatment for the rest of your life.

you must remember to properly id every find before consumption
it strikes me that many users don't seem to actualy understand what this entails and need to do a lot of research before consuming any wild mushroom finds. there is ample info in the FAQ to get everyone started in this and enough info net-wide to give everybody as much help as they can use.


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Re: what was I thinking I ate one of these! ID help. [Re: canid]
    #2031206 - 10/22/03 02:15 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

concretefeet said:
it's a disturbing surge in an ever present trend.





that is the first thing i thought when i saw this thread. i hope some of these people are just playing stupid, unfunny pranks. if not, i don't see how this can go on much longer without a death or severe lifelong injury. people have been getting very lucky.


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Re: what was I thinking I ate one of these! ID help. [Re: eric_the_red]
    #2031824 - 10/22/03 11:05 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Here's a few numbers (from the US only) on mushroom poisonings for 2002

Reported cases 8722
Deaths 5
Nontoxic 253
Coprine 21
Cyclopeptide 56
GI irritant 177
Hallucinogenic 766
Ibotenic Acid 31
Methylhydrazine 66
Muscarine 8
Orellanine 4
Other 36
Unknown 7304

2 deaths were attributed to cyclopeptides (that's amatoxins)
1 death to hallucinogenic (!)
1 death to methylhydrazine (that would be false morels)
1 death to unknown

For those who want to see the entire report, it's at:
http://www.aapcc.org/Annual%20Reports/02report/AnnlRpt02Table22.pdf

Happy mushrooming!


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Re: what was I thinking I ate one of these! ID help. [Re: ToxicMan]
    #2031904 - 10/22/03 11:40 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Dood thats a really dumb thing to do....i guess you might be smart but on the other hand perhaps what we need is some poisionings tgo kill off the morons. Good luck with your hunts.


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Re: what was I thinking I ate one of these! ID help. [Re: ToxicMan]
    #2031971 - 10/22/03 12:05 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

1 death to hallucinogenic (!) ???

:wtf:
did someone see something scary and have a heart attack?
maybe that was referring to a. muscaria. 


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Re: what was I thinking I ate one of these! ID help. [Re: eric_the_red]
    #2032019 - 10/22/03 12:25 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I have a suspicion that many of these posters have not actually 'ingested' anything, rather, it speeds up the reply/identification of those on the shroomery as it is now considered 'urgent.'


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Re: what was I thinking I ate one of these! ID help. [Re: f8L]
    #2032027 - 10/22/03 12:27 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

That would be just dirty. We've talked about banning people from specific forums before. It hasn't been done yet but if we found out someone pulled that kind of crap, they might be the first one to be banned from a particular forum.


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Re: what was I thinking I ate one of these! ID help. [Re: eric_the_red]
    #2032153 - 10/22/03 01:23 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Hallucinogenic doesn't include Amanita muscaria. There is an entire category in their report for Ibotenic Acid.

I have no details at all on it. You know exactly as much as I do.

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Re: what was I thinking I ate one of these! ID help. [Re: ToxicMan]
    #2032511 - 10/22/03 03:17 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I read throught that paper and the problem with these kind of survey reports are that there are no references for the csources citred to verify the statistics contain herein.

I also notice3 these statistic.

41 deaths due to heroin overdose or relate.
91 deaths due to cocaine ( no distinction between coke and/or crack,
and the largest in the area of drug deaths were due to Pharmaceutical man-made drugs which totaled 2,130.

Nothing mentions in the report any references as to the death caused by a hallucinogenic mushroom and The Atlanta Poison Control Center has no data to support a death from a hallucinogenic mushroom. It is possible that the death was attributed to a hallucinogenic mushroom by someone who ate what he thought were hallucinogenic mushrooms.

The 6-year-old boy who died in the early 1960s reportedly ate P. baeocystis and many shroom guides gave warnings about that mushroom for more than 30 40 years, however I obtained actual polaroids fromt he drs who wrote the paper and the shrooms were Psilocybe cyanescens. The original article mentioned that other shrooms may have been involved but they were never looked for in the autopsy. This was also similatr tot he john Gomilla case in Hawaii where a youth ate 10 magic shrooms (Copelandia and died to days later. Hawaiian newspapers wrote, "Boy eats 10 magic mushrooms and Dies." thoe were the headlines.

After studying this case, and knowning that ten Copelandia shrooms would not even kill anyone, I obtained a copy of thye death cetificate 17 years aftrer the incident, not without much hassle from the coroner's office who wanted to know why I was trying to make trouble about an old case, we found that the biy actually died from causes due to morphine or heroin use. Morphine traces were found in his biulge months after his death.

Samples were sent to the mainland at the time of his death to look for amatoxins. I asked the original coroner why amatoxins and he said he read about them in some magazine.

anyway, never eat something that you have no idea what they are.

I did that a few times in the early 1970s of shrooms from manure in Oregon and I consider myself very luck.

mj

While I am sure that the majority of the statistics in this report are accurate or close tot he figures represented in their paper, I also am sure that there are errors in the counting of these instances of death listed in that paper.


Again this shows the priority of law enforcement who go after the heroin users, abusers and suppliers before they go adfter the coke/crack heads.


mj


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Re: what was I thinking I ate one of these! ID help. [Re: spores]
    #2032525 - 10/22/03 03:22 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

They are exactly as DethHed said, they are Merasmius oreades the common fairy ring shroom. And god you are one lucky dude.

Please do not go about eating shrooms when you do not known what you are doing. It could kill you. ANd if they were the readly dedly kind then they do not affect you until 12-24 hours after you have eten them and then your chances of survival are actually pretty slim.

mj


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