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Offlinelobster989
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Dark Syringes?
    #2028416 - 10/21/03 01:08 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

What is a dark syringe? I've seen them mentioned on here before.


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Re: Dark Syringes? [Re: lobster989]
    #2028422 - 10/21/03 01:09 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

a syringe with a higher concentration of spores.


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Re: Dark Syringes? [Re: thisone]
    #2028428 - 10/21/03 01:11 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

darker = better !!!


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Re: Dark Syringes? [Re: diacamomo]
    #2028434 - 10/21/03 01:15 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

If you get a dark sryinge, I would suggest making many more with the solution you already have. It only takes 2 spores to germinate.


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Re: Dark Syringes? [Re: diacamomo]
    #2028440 - 10/21/03 01:19 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

not always true...sometimes its a waste!


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Re: Dark Syringes? [Re: lobster989]
    #2028480 - 10/21/03 01:28 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

You know I hear people say dark syringes are a waste. Maby true. All I know is 30% of the post here are people saying "why are my jars taking so long" all I know is this.

I use dark syringes
1. Cause it?s just to fucken easy to make your own syringes.

2. Cause I get this in 3 to 4 days every time.



I like em dark but to each their own.




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Re: Dark Syringes? [Re: Magash]
    #2028493 - 10/21/03 01:32 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

those are fucking dark man....nice


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Re: Dark Syringes? [Re: Magash]
    #2028495 - 10/21/03 01:33 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Ahh yes, those are the pictures I've seen before. They were so dark I thought you had electrical tape wrapped around them for some reason. I suppose I've made my own dark syringes just because I didn't know how much of my print to use per syringe. I just used 1 print per syringe. I had some good results (faster colonization). Looks like I'm sticking with this.

Thanks for the responses guys.


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Re: Dark Syringes? [Re: lobster989]
    #2028628 - 10/21/03 02:15 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

as stated here already....darker is not better.
Matter of fact...its a bad thing!!
What you want is rizo growth...not a cottony growth.

This is how strains are made better...by selecting only the rizo growth.
Many studys were done on this in the past.

As far as colonisation speed is concerned....dark syringes may colonise a day or 2 faster.

It is a waste of spores....IMO
I would never use dark syringes....
What you want is a good spore match.

Lot of people just keep fully colonised jars...
We dont!
To try to perfect a good strain, only the rhizo jars should be kept.
This is done even better with agar plates.

In other words...only keep the best of the growth.

I understand that many of us are happy to have their jars fully colonise and cake or case them.
Thats cool :smile:

I was just pointing out, from my position, that only the rhizo growth of the strain should be kept.
I understand that we are not doing the same thing....
I want a strong, viable line of spores.

That is the job we try to do here.

Sometimes it takes months.
Check out MJ's post on the samiuensis strain...
We have taken that strain and have produced mushrooms much larger and we are proud of what we do.
That took about 7 months to get that strain to where we have it now.

Darker is not better....
Selection is the key.
Your darker syringes are still only multi-spore innocs.

But, hey, if the goal is only for mushrooms....2 spores or 2 million spores will get you the same result.

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Re: Dark Syringes? [Re: ralphster44]
    #2028676 - 10/21/03 02:27 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

its my dream just to have a live culture goin. maybe say 150 gallon jars of straight millet.


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Re: Dark Syringes? [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #2028706 - 10/21/03 02:35 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

damn preschooler.....thats alot!!!!
Bulk that and you will have tons!!!!!
What would ya do with that?

Sounds like a 6 year block party...lol



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Re: Dark Syringes? [Re: ralphster44]
    #2028787 - 10/21/03 02:56 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

:nut: ive always wanted to walk on the moon :nut:   


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Re: Dark Syringes? [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #2028801 - 10/21/03 03:01 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

really?
You buy the gas, I'll drive:)


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Re: Dark Syringes? [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #2028846 - 10/21/03 03:13 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

interesting post Ralphster :smile:

I think the best way to speed growth in jars is to just inject a few drops of spores into karo. Within days you have enough myc to rip through a ton of jars at high speed and still have most of the syring for another day.

On the other hand if you're going to make your own syringe who can resist making it dark and nasty :smile:


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Re: Dark Syringes? [Re: shroomstruck]
    #2028864 - 10/21/03 03:18 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

LOL...yes..thats seems to be the concensis.

If my costumers want them dark.....I will gladly send them dark.

These are just my thoughts on this...
Ya want dark? you got dark :smile:

Fine by me....:)


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Re: Dark Syringes? [Re: ralphster44]
    #2028934 - 10/21/03 03:44 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

LOL ... I'm not saying you should do anything different Ralphster ... and you shouldn't ... your spores kick ass! :smile:

I was talking about the experience of making your own ... it's a milestone and that dark syringe is like a little trophy ... :smile:

I think the biggest danger is if they clump up and clog your syringe
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Re: Dark Syringes? [Re: ralphster44]
    #2028941 - 10/21/03 03:45 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I think dark is most helpful for homegrowers who make their own syringes.

If sterility can't be insured, it is best to put as many spores in your syringe as possible. The spores should overwhelm any contams you might introduce... well, that's the theory.

Now that I think of it, the best growth I've seen has come from light syringes. Not scientific, but an honest observation.


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Re: Dark Syringes? [Re: Rose]
    #2028989 - 10/21/03 04:05 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I innoculated a couple days ago. Made 1 syringe myself, it was pretty dark. The other syringe was one ralphster made. My dark syringe was 5ccs and went into 3 jars total hehe. I'm keeping watch to see if it makes a difference for me.


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