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Offlinebluntcosmic
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Contamination or just metabolites?
    #20273462 - 07/14/14 08:47 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Have had this cake sitting for a while, probably about 95% colonized, and here is a slight yellowish discoloration

it's not this brown to plain eyesight, it's more of a pale yellow/tan



just hard to really capture the true color with my camera



and then right on the other side of the jar this is going on....


What do you guys think? And what would be the recommended course of action with this jar? Thanks in advance.


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Re: Contamination or just metabolites? [Re: bluntcosmic]
    #20273515 - 07/14/14 08:55 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Perhaps an outdoor service is appropriate for the dearly departed.
According to its last will and testament, it desired to be buried in a moist shady spot in the flower bed, or a flower pot on the porch.
My kindest regards and deepest sympathies. :cryaboutit:


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Re: Contamination or just metabolites? [Re: airdragon333]
    #20273547 - 07/14/14 08:59 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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airdragon333 said:
According to its last will and testament, it desired to be buried in a moist shady spot in the flower bed, or a flower pot on the porch.




Funny you said this, I just buried 4 used up cakes in a few different spots in my garden, one found it's way under a shady peach tree too.. I guess we'll see if the plants like them.

But besides that, what is specifically wrong with the cake (if contaminated, what contamination?)


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Re: Contamination or just metabolites? [Re: bluntcosmic]
    #20273780 - 07/14/14 09:37 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Sorry but I cannot say specifically. Perhaps a more seasoned member could ID it.
The number one pinning trigger is full colonization. If you have a spawn jar fruiting on one side and visibly uncolonized on the other you can be sure you have a problem. It tells me the myc has colonized everything it can and something else is inhabiting the rest.


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Re: Contamination or just metabolites? [Re: airdragon333]
    #20273902 - 07/14/14 09:58 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

It's contam. Toss it.


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Re: Contamination or just metabolites? [Re: PsiloBeast]
    #20273921 - 07/14/14 10:00 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

It looks like pink mold. Not sure though.


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Re: Contamination or just metabolites? [Re: airdragon333]
    #20273928 - 07/14/14 10:00 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

The first picture reminds me of Mycogone perniciosa, but the second picture is screaming Trichoderma species.... but hey, who knows- it could be Aspergillus, Penicillium, etc.

Narrowing down your contaminant to the species level is pretty pointless though... all you gotta know is what looks right and what doesn't- but more importantly, how to avoid the situation altogether, or what to do to get away from it.

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Re: Contamination or just metabolites? [Re: Mykes logos]
    #20274012 - 07/14/14 10:14 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Mykes logos said:
The first picture reminds me of Mycogone perniciosa, but the second picture is screaming Trichoderma species.... but hey, who knows- it could be Aspergillus, Penicillium, etc.

Narrowing down your contaminant to the species level is pretty pointless though... all you gotta know is what looks right and what doesn't- but more importantly, how to avoid the situation altogether, or what to do to get away from it.

GL and Cheers




Well I wanted to try and compare pics on the internet of contams to the jar, because really it looks just like metabolites, but I wanted to be sure. The dark spot in the 2nd pic is just a really bad shadow or something, there is no green/black in my jar at all.

Here are two more pics of that same jar, just to show how different it looks pretty much in every picture




I know this is probably getting redundant but I wanna fruit this MF


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Re: Contamination or just metabolites? [Re: bluntcosmic]
    #20274045 - 07/14/14 10:19 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I wouldn't :lol:


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Re: Contamination or just metabolites? [Re: PsiloBeast]
    #20274063 - 07/14/14 10:21 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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I wouldn't :lol:




:thumbup: out it goes!


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Re: Contamination or just metabolites? [Re: PsiloBeast]
    #20274078 - 07/14/14 10:24 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

:emotionalmoment:

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Re: Contamination or just metabolites? [Re: bluntcosmic]
    #20274079 - 07/14/14 10:24 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

It's sad to let em go!!

I'm sure you'll have many more jars in the future that won't have such a gruesome outcome as this, my deepest sympathies for your loss....but yes toss the bitch.


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Re: Contamination or just metabolites? [Re: PsiloBeast]
    #20274103 - 07/14/14 10:28 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Lesson be learned, make sure you stick a bitch x4 cause this jar only had 1 inoculation point. womp. womp.


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Re: Contamination or just metabolites? [Re: bluntcosmic]
    #20274172 - 07/14/14 10:41 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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bluntcosmic said:
Quote:

Mykes logos said:
The first picture reminds me of Mycogone perniciosa, but the second picture is screaming Trichoderma species.... but hey, who knows- it could be Aspergillus, Penicillium, etc.

Narrowing down your contaminant to the species level is pretty pointless though... all you gotta know is what looks right and what doesn't- but more importantly, how to avoid the situation altogether, or what to do to get away from it.

GL and Cheers




Well I wanted to try and compare pics on the internet of contams to the jar, because really it looks just like metabolites, but I wanted to be sure. The dark spot in the 2nd pic is just a really bad shadow or something, there is no green/black in my jar at all.

Here are two more pics of that same jar, just to show how different it looks pretty much in every picture




I know this is probably getting redundant but I wanna fruit this MF




fruit it or don't. I can't make that call. Your pics are kinda horrid- but I understand how that goes. Too many factors here...

PS: The picture in your sig looks like P. cubensis infected with something in the Pseudomonaceae family... don't let water accumulate on your fruits like that.

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Re: Contamination or just metabolites? [Re: Mykes logos]
    #20274261 - 07/14/14 10:57 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

are those good to consume? interesting shape, I was out of town and relied on a friend to mist/fan while house sitting, they also got picked really late.


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Re: Contamination or just metabolites? [Re: bluntcosmic]
    #20274301 - 07/14/14 11:04 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Eww I don't think I would eat those hahaha I didn't even notice that.


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Re: Contamination or just metabolites? [Re: PsiloBeast]
    #20274324 - 07/14/14 11:10 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Eww I don't think I would eat those hahaha I didn't even notice that.




Yeah I don't wanna ruin anyone's day, but if you look at pictures of common bacterias and such that attack fruit bodies.... you'll quickly realize that soooooooo many grows people post on here are super sickly :rofl:

It's kind of shocking, really... but I doubt any of them are too harmful.

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