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PsilocyBen17
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Dunking vs. Misting bulk
#19911051 - 04/28/14 10:15 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey guys,
just wanted to poll opinions on dunking a bulk sub vs. misting it.
I know theres a thread on here with pictures of a side by side of a dunk sub vs a heavily misted one.
Kudos if you can find it...
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blindingleaf
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mist till after second flush. dunking tubs is just annoying. proper field capacity will get u what u want with two flushes and no dunk.
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Anyone who has any idea of what they are doing will dunk/soak after 1st or second flush. How on earth will you achieve a full canopy on your third or fourth flush with misting?
Just put it this way, if you get 4 ounces dry off of your first flush, you would have lost roughly 1000 grams of water weight (roughly 4 cups of water). It is not physically possible to get your sub to reabsorb 4 cups of water through misting.
Like previously stated, proper field capacity can get you through to a second flush (not optimally) but if you want any substantial fruit after that you would need to dunk/soak your sub.
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MudaFuka
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Re: Dunking vs. Misting bulk [Re: Delection]
#19911156 - 04/28/14 10:56 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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I generally dunk after every flush. Its likely not needed after the first flush but it only takes a few minutes to pour some water into my liner and then dump out the excess in a couple of hours. So I figure it cant hurt.
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Re: Dunking vs. Misting bulk [Re: Delection]
#19911184 - 04/28/14 11:05 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Delection said: Anyone who has any idea of what they are doing will dunk/soak after 1st or second flush. How on earth will you achieve a full canopy on your third or fourth flush with misting?
Just put it this way, if you get 4 ounces dry off of your first flush, you would have lost roughly 1000 grams of water weight (roughly 4 cups of water). It is not physically possible to get your sub to reabsorb 4 cups of water through misting.
Like previously stated, proper field capacity can get you through to a second flush (not optimally) but if you want any substantial fruit after that you would need to dunk/soak your sub.
well i never go past second flush. i only have a few tubs, and i usually have colonized grain spawn waiting. so i guess if ur going that far with ur sub its a good idea. still would not dunk till after second flush tho, thats me anyhow
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Unless you got contam's there no reason not to keep going, some people have squeezed out 5 even 6 flushes from bulk. The general consensus i've seen is 3-4 flushes on a bulk before contams start to settle in.
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Re: Dunking vs. Misting bulk [Re: Delection]
#19911224 - 04/28/14 11:15 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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The vast majority of your yields will come from the first two flushes. I have gotten some decent thirds and fourths but if space is an issue it can make a lot of sense to move on after the second.
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Re: Dunking vs. Misting bulk [Re: MudaFuka]
#19911234 - 04/28/14 11:16 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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although I have seen some great third flushes before
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Re: Dunking vs. Misting bulk [Re: Delection]
#19911263 - 04/28/14 11:23 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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My best third flush was just over 2 dry ounce from a mini dub tub. Which isn't bad but it's still only half of my best first or second flush yields.
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Re: Dunking vs. Misting bulk [Re: MudaFuka]
#19911288 - 04/28/14 11:32 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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I agree with yah, but giants out of a third is not out of the question - It's all about genetics. Blue Spore had some insane fruits of a third and fourth flush. I just hate to ditch any grow unless I see contams.
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Re: Dunking vs. Misting bulk [Re: MudaFuka]
#19911289 - 04/28/14 11:33 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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i have nothing against going past second flush. to each their own, I'm just saying, for me, resource wise, i like starting again after second flush. i think ppl can definitely get a good third flush.
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Re: Dunking vs. Misting bulk [Re: Delection]
#19911363 - 04/28/14 11:51 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Delection said: I agree with yah, but giants out of a third is not out of the question - It's all about genetics. Blue Spore had some insane fruits of a third and fourth flush. I just hate to ditch any grow unless I see contams.
You can definitely get some giants out of later flushes.
 I prefer small fruits though. to each there own.
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Re: Dunking vs. Misting bulk [Re: MudaFuka]
#19911377 - 04/28/14 11:54 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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It likely boils down to how much you grow. For some of us its wasted space for a third flush to pull 2 ounces where we could rotate out a tub and pull 6 instead.
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Re: Dunking vs. Misting bulk [Re: maddchef]
#20266933 - 07/13/14 01:50 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Noon question here, but.....how do you determine flushes off a MS tub? Mine is just putting out continuous boomers. At what point is it a second or third? What signs do I look for to k ow if it needs a dunk?
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Re: Dunking vs. Misting bulk [Re: orchitis01] 1
#20266944 - 07/13/14 01:53 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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A lot of the time MS grows won't give defined flushes. Lift your sub if it feels full and heavy its fine if it feels light and empty it needs a dunk.
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Re: Dunking vs. Misting bulk [Re: MudaFuka]
#20267133 - 07/13/14 02:48 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Some commercial grows will weight their harvest and add roughly 90% of that weight back to their substrate in water.
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