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Contamed Jar to cultivate outside o.O
    #20264362 - 07/12/14 08:08 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

So i've had a bunch of contamed jars that i've buried outside in the dirt and never had no luck with even one outdoor fruit. Anyone actually have luck at this? I wonder if it's because I live in a dry state like Colorado - and maybe it needs to be more humid. Even jars that I catch the contam before it colonizes alot and it's only on a few grains but the rest is colonized with nice mycelium i'll toss outside under some dirt.

Is there a better way to do this? Do I need to mix up so cococoir to toss outside with it? What's the deal?


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Re: Contamed Jar to cultivate outside o.O [Re: ConcreteWaves]
    #20264383 - 07/12/14 08:12 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I have. However, I live in Florida and during the summer, conditions are so ideal, I have had multiple success.  Only ever 1 flush though.  All I do is take the bad cakes, cases, jars whatever...go to a place in my yard where i've seen mushrooms come up.  I barely bury them, maybe 1/2 inch if that.  I don't put so much dirt but small pieces of mulch leaves, you can see in pic.  Just some structure.






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Re: Contamed Jar to cultivate outside o.O [Re: Kryptic]
    #20264448 - 07/12/14 08:29 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Thats awesome dude! Yea florida is perfect conditions for that. By the way, nice sig Kryptic. <3 I love anime style signatures, i've made hundreds of em. Kudos!

I guess it's just that I live in Colorado, and it's so dry here...it does rain n what not - but conditions aren't as ideal as say New Jersey or Florida where it is real humid and the soil is real soil not just 1 inch of dirt and then clay XD  lol


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Re: Contamed Jar to cultivate outside o.O [Re: ConcreteWaves]
    #20264491 - 07/12/14 08:41 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Throw leaves and grass on top and keep them moist. Not sopping but moist and you will have your fruits.

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Re: Contamed Jar to cultivate outside o.O [Re: Ghatti]
    #20264854 - 07/12/14 10:36 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Even jars that I catch the contam before it colonizes alot and it's only on a few grains but the rest is colonized with nice mycelium i'll toss outside under some dirt.



A lot of times when that happens though the white mycelium is part of the mold and not mushroom mycelium.


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Re: Contamed Jar to cultivate outside o.O [Re: ConcreteWaves]
    #20264950 - 07/12/14 11:05 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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ConcreteWaves said:
Is there a better way to do this? Do I need to mix up so cococoir to toss outside with it? What's the deal?




Layer it with composted manure. Coir just sounds like a moldy mess outdoors

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Re: Contamed Jar to cultivate outside o.O [Re: Mushiez]
    #20264961 - 07/12/14 11:08 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

coir is fine outdoors, pasturize or sterilize first and if you have some compost throw a few handfulls in


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Re: Contamed Jar to cultivate outside o.O [Re: Mushiez]
    #20265122 - 07/12/14 11:48 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Coir just sounds like a moldy mess outdoors




It'd difficult for mold to germinate on coir. You could take a bucket of hydrated coir and stick it in your garage, basement, under a tree and let it sit for months without it going off on you.

Coir would be perfectly fine to use outdoors.

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Re: Contamed Jar to cultivate outside o.O [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #20270369 - 07/14/14 10:03 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

So what im hearing is, dont just dig a half ass hole and bury my grains, actually pasturize some coir, dig a hole and fill it with coir and mix in my grains? Maybe take a water sprayer and lightly water the area to keep it moist? Someone said, maybe shelter the spot with some leaves as well?

I only did this like a week ago, is it safe to say my grains are dead and just do it like this on my next time i toss a contamed jar outside?


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Re: Contamed Jar to cultivate outside o.O [Re: ConcreteWaves]
    #20270828 - 07/14/14 11:43 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

yeah just keep it in mind


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Re: Contamed Jar to cultivate outside o.O [Re: ConcreteWaves]
    #20271741 - 07/14/14 03:34 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

If you're doing an outdoor grow the coir doesn't have to be pasteurized. It'd be fine just re-hydrated.

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Re: Contamed Jar to cultivate outside o.O [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #20271767 - 07/14/14 03:41 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

no it still needs heat treatment, coir is very hard for fungi to digest otherwise, it works but you should take full advantage of coirs ability's


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Re: Contamed Jar to cultivate outside o.O [Re: cronicr]
    #20271894 - 07/14/14 04:03 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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no it still needs heat treatment, coir is very hard for fungi to digest otherwise, it works but you should take full advantage of coirs ability's




I was actually JUST reading an old thread where RR was saying the same thing, that heating coir makes it easier to digest. I didn't know that, but it makes perfect sense.

Do you think the temperatures reached during the bucket tek are sufficient?

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Re: Contamed Jar to cultivate outside o.O [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #20273234 - 07/14/14 08:06 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

oh yeah no problem:thumbup:


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Re: Contamed Jar to cultivate outside o.O [Re: cronicr]
    #20273349 - 07/14/14 08:24 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Sweet! Yea id rather do a quick bucket tech for outdoor grow instead of proper pasturizing.


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