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papayafuzz
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P. Semilanceata or what? Pictures inc...
#2025808 - 10/20/03 01:49 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pictures:
Spore print color looks like dark red'ish Brown:
I found these mushrooms from edge of a grassy horse field where there are few pinetrees before the actual forest starts. They were all growing on grass / grass-tufts in area that was about 50cm x 50cm. They were/are 5-10 cm high.... caps 1-3 cm broad (but most of them were about 1 - 1.5 cm)... there is NO nipple on top of the caps. There are stripes on the caps and the caps have also removeable membrane. Overall color of the mushroom is light brown / tan / little yellow'ish... when dryier they are more pale/white and more clearly yellow'ish... the stems are little darker and more towards brown-red especially from bottom and their diameter is about 2mm. Gills are little darker that the caps... especially now when the mushrooms are dryier and especially on those shrooms whitch I hammered against a paper to get spore print... whitch is dark red'ish brown.
So... are these mushrooms Psilocybe Semilanceatas? If not, what could they be?
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I found also these from the same field and they are definitely Psilocybe Semilanceatas:
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Re: P. Semilanceata or what? Pictures inc... [Re: papayafuzz]
#2025847 - 10/20/03 01:58 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd say with the spore color, stem color, lack of nipple, and absence of incurved margin that those aren't semis. They look like some sort of pan to me, but my identification prowess on pasture mushrooms is sorely lacking. Good luck.
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Re: P. Semilanceata or what? Pictures inc... [Re: davidg47]
#2025852 - 10/20/03 01:59 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Super nice pictures, by the way. Really clear and focused. I wish I could take shots like that. I'm very jealous.
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Xenophobic
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Re: P. Semilanceata or what? Pictures inc... [Re: davidg47]
#2025864 - 10/20/03 02:02 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nope, but nice pictures
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winelover
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Re: P. Semilanceata or what? Pictures inc... [Re: Xenophobic]
#2025905 - 10/20/03 02:24 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mycena, better luck next time, great pics
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Mitchnast
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Re: P. Semilanceata or what? Pictures inc... [Re: Xenophobic]
#2025907 - 10/20/03 02:25 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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actually they are semis, if not then psilocybe strictipes perhaps, definately psilocybe
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papayafuzz
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Re: P. Semilanceata or what? Pictures inc... [Re: Xenophobic]
#2025910 - 10/20/03 02:26 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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oh damn..
Anybody know what could they be?
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Xenophobic
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Re: P. Semilanceata or what? Pictures inc... [Re: Mitchnast]
#2025919 - 10/20/03 02:29 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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It depends on what photos papayafuzz. The first five photos aren't semi's (or maybe but they look like a very mixed bunch apart from the second shroom from the left in the first & second photo). Photo's 6,7,8 & 9 are Liberty Caps, and the last one well as you said are definately semi's.
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papayafuzz
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Re: P. Semilanceata or what? Pictures inc... [Re: Xenophobic]
#2025940 - 10/20/03 02:38 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Xenophobic... first 12 photos are all from the same mushrooms. The one you mentioned was little dryer. There has been -5 Celcius in few nights... and days it is about +1 to +4 here in Finland.
Edited by papayafuzz (10/20/03 02:42 PM)
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Re: P. Semilanceata or what? Pictures inc... [Re: papayafuzz]
#2025958 - 10/20/03 02:49 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do you mean they were picked in the same area? or the same mushrooms? If you mean the latter then they're all libs (you can tell alot better than me in real life, than a photo). But the first five photos look pretty suspicious to me. With over 10 years experience I'de throw some of those back, even though they aint deadly. I find those (the ones that don't look like semi's to me) and many others on my travels and chuck them or not pick them at all (you can just tell) but I can't be arsed to type out all the latin names of them.
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papayafuzz
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Re: P. Semilanceata or what? Pictures inc... [Re: papayafuzz]
#2025959 - 10/20/03 02:50 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Now I would need to hear few more opinions from experienced mushroom hunters since there are mixed thoughts (MJshroomer are you reading ) ......
Edited by papayafuzz (10/20/03 02:51 PM)
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Re: P. Semilanceata or what? Pictures inc... [Re: papayafuzz]
#2025963 - 10/20/03 02:52 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm sure mj would say the same but he's bound to read this sooner or later. You'll get a more experienced answer from mj.
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papayafuzz
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Re: P. Semilanceata or what? Pictures inc... [Re: Xenophobic]
#2025995 - 10/20/03 03:05 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Xenophobic said: Do you mean they were picked in the same area? or the same mushrooms? ...
Yes they were picked from area that was about 50cm x 50cm... there were no other mushrooms on that area... the shroom you mentioned (second from left in 1st photo) was dryer than the others... apart from that I'm sure they all are same mushrooms.
Edited by papayafuzz (10/20/03 03:07 PM)
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Xenophobic
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Re: P. Semilanceata or what? Pictures inc... [Re: papayafuzz]
#2026006 - 10/20/03 03:10 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sine none of them are deadly, try a sporeprint on all of them. The one's that don't come out purplely black throw away. Sorted.
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Re: P. Semilanceata or what? Pictures inc... [Re: Xenophobic]
#2026110 - 10/20/03 03:42 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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semis arent purely black. they can often appear black, but they are very dark purple on a heavy print
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Re: P. Semilanceata or what? Pictures inc... [Re: Mitchnast]
#2026120 - 10/20/03 03:45 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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They loo9k like P. semilanceata to me. Mjshroomer see http://www.mushroomjohn.com/species43.htm have a shroomy day, mj
Edited by mjshroomer (10/20/03 03:47 PM)
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Mitchnast
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Re: P. Semilanceata or what? Pictures inc... [Re: mjshroomer]
#2026140 - 10/20/03 03:52 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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looks like some of mine too
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Stipe
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Re: P. Semilanceata or what? Pictures inc... [Re: Mitchnast]
#2026185 - 10/20/03 04:10 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Papyafuzz: Those look a lot like the ones Cardboard picked about a month ago. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post1953687
Edited by Stipe (10/20/03 04:12 PM)
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Re: P. Semilanceata or what? Pictures inc... [Re: Stipe]
#2026257 - 10/20/03 04:35 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mitchnast, rewind............. I said "Purplely" not "Purely".
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papayafuzz
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Re: P. Semilanceata or what? Pictures inc... [Re: Xenophobic]
#2028248 - 10/21/03 09:51 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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So I guess they really are P. Semilancatas... Looking MJ's Liberty Cap pictures shows clearly how different they can be depending on where and when you pick them up. But luckily there is always some overall character that reveals Semis.
Here's a bit weird P. Semilanceata (I believe) I found today from beginning of a forest... ...it was about 20-30 meters inside a forest (from a grass field)... on a grass tuft.... I think the cap is like that because the whole shroom was frozen... it's been below zero whole day.
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