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Spiky rhizo growth in colonizing monotub?
    #20252613 - 07/10/14 11:21 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

My apologies for the lack of photos. I tried to take a picture but all you could see were the water droplets on the side of the tub. Anyway, my first mono is colonizing very aggressively (2nd one is too!) and I'm pleased.

I can see many areas where spikey white rhizo growth is sticking up, almost like tiny fans of pins. Is this normal? A good sign?


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Re: Spiky rhizo growth in colonizing monotub? [Re: HigglePig]
    #20252814 - 07/10/14 11:59 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Open it and take pics.


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Re: Spiky rhizo growth in colonizing monotub? [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #20252819 - 07/10/14 12:00 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Open it and take pics.




I ain't opening it.

It does look like a lot of pics of colonizing monos. I think it's a good sign.


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Re: Spiky rhizo growth in colonizing monotub? [Re: HigglePig]
    #20252833 - 07/10/14 12:03 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

So then what was the point of this thread?

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Re: Spiky rhizo growth in colonizing monotub? [Re: Squandary]
    #20252837 - 07/10/14 12:04 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Wanted to hear if it was normal from more experienced people.


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Re: Spiky rhizo growth in colonizing monotub? [Re: Squandary]
    #20252843 - 07/10/14 12:06 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

yeah pics is your only option for a definirive answer but if the growth is thick and fanning out  at the tips try snap a tip off, if it snaps off its bacteria, other then that it can be normal for them to go a little aerial


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Re: Spiky rhizo growth in colonizing monotub? [Re: cronicr]
    #20252871 - 07/10/14 12:13 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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yeah pics is your only option for a definirive answer but if the growth is thick and fanning out  at the tips try snap a tip off, if it snaps off its bacteria, other then that it can be normal for them to go a little aerial




Thanks for the tip. I don't really want to open it for fear if contams so Ill just keep an eye on it. Thanks!


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Re: Spiky rhizo growth in colonizing monotub? [Re: cronicr]
    #20252878 - 07/10/14 12:14 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Opening it to take pics is fine dude!

Your substrate is NOT sterile any more so opening the lids (for a short period of time) will not cause harm to the colonization process.


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Re: Spiky rhizo growth in colonizing monotub? [Re: PsiloBeast]
    #20252887 - 07/10/14 12:16 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

We really can't help you fully without pics...don't be a scared and open it up!! Hahaha


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Re: Spiky rhizo growth in colonizing monotub? [Re: PsiloBeast]
    #20258225 - 07/11/14 02:24 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Opening it won't cause contams. It's already full of spores from the air when you spawned it. Take some pics.


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Re: Spiky rhizo growth in colonizing monotub? [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #20258229 - 07/11/14 02:26 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Spiky rhizo growth in colonizing monotub? [Re: HigglePig]
    #20258364 - 07/11/14 03:07 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Lookin good bro!!

No problems in there. That spikey growth means good genetics and conditions.


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Re: Spiky rhizo growth in colonizing monotub? [Re: PsiloBeast]
    #20258391 - 07/11/14 03:15 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Lookin good bro!!

No problems in there. That spikey growth means good genetics and conditions.




Thanks for the feedback! I'm just getting started and I really tried my best. I'm not so good at doing tangible, manual things so I'm glad to have your stamp of approval. I just got my first fruits from the tiny jar project I have going to tide me over until this is done, it feels so great to work on something and have it pay off.

I'm really enjoying the process of this hobby. The results should be good but I am pleasantly surprised at how much I'm enjoying the work of it. That's a good sign I think. I've got so much to learn, but this community is a great resource an it's nice to see so many people moving along the same path.


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Re: Spiky rhizo growth in colonizing monotub? [Re: HigglePig]
    #20258465 - 07/11/14 03:35 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Well thanks for your appreciation!!

There are many TC's (trusted cultivators) as well as what I call Elder Members of the shroomery who are absolutely amazing when it comes to answering questions, Teks, and general cultivation! They are all (okay not all) very kind and helpful, sarcastic, and playful, saints and sinners, trippers and tripees, who love to help out. If you can't ind the info in the treads an forums then feel free to ask any question you wish. This shits crackin' 24/7!!

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Re: Spiky rhizo growth in colonizing monotub? [Re: PsiloBeast]
    #20258544 - 07/11/14 03:54 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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That spikey growth can mean good genetics and/or conditions.  It can also sometimes have no bearing whatsoever on how it progresses into fruiting.




At it again today I see.  Fixed for you.


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Re: Spiky rhizo growth in colonizing monotub? [Re: Inocuole]
    #20258673 - 07/11/14 04:35 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

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That spikey growth can mean good genetics and/or conditions.  It can also sometimes have no bearing whatsoever on how it progresses into fruiting.




At it again today I see.  Fixed for you.




Oh! 10/4 Inocuole! Thanks.

I suppose I was referring to the picture he have us though. I should have said SO FAR everything looks good lol. You can half agree though that bad genetics can make for some shitty colonization! He has (from what I can see) very clean, white, beautiful colonizing going on.


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Re: Spiky rhizo growth in colonizing monotub? [Re: Inocuole]
    #20258678 - 07/11/14 04:37 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think opening a colonizing monotub is a good idea, and here is why:

The point of introducing contamination was brought up, and it is true that a monotub is far from sterile. Contamination is not the issue though. Colonizing substrates creates co2, which builds up over the colonization period. When it is time to fruit your tub, you will lift the lid and give a good blast of fresh o2, introduce 6500k lighting, and replace your taped holes with polyfil.

The influx of fresh o2 is a pinning trigger that one should take advantage of for a strong first flush.

I learned about building up co2 from TranscendingLife in this Tek. . I've put it into practice with noticeable results.

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Re: Spiky rhizo growth in colonizing monotub? [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #20258705 - 07/11/14 04:45 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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I don't think opening a colonizing monotub is a good idea, and here is why:

The point of introducing contamination was brought up, and it is true that a monotub is far from sterile. Contamination is not the issue though. Colonizing substrates creates co2, which builds up over the colonization period. When it is time to fruit your tub, you will lift the lid and give a good blast of fresh o2, introduce 6500k lighting, and replace your taped holes with polyfil.

The influx of fresh o2 is a pinning trigger that one should take advantage of for a strong first flush.

I learned about building up co2 from TranscendingLife in this Tek. . I've put it into practice with noticeable results.




We can all agree to that, Eagle!

On occasion though, at least IME, there comes a time when you need to crack it open to take a pic, or carefully check for colonization rates or contams, or when you just get antsy and need to chek out some porn (of the mycelial type).

...and there's nothing wrong with that :shrug:

All in all, if your holes are taped shut, then plenty of CO2 will build up (even with sufficient GE) because of the colonizing, metabolizing, and thriving mycelium and the amount of it in a Monotub.


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Re: Spiky rhizo growth in colonizing monotub? [Re: PsiloBeast]
    #20258788 - 07/11/14 05:11 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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We can all agree to that, Eagle!

On occasion though, at least IME, there comes a time when you need to crack it open to take a pic, or carefully check for colonization rates or contams, or when you just get antsy and need to chek out some porn (of the mycelial type).

...and there's nothing wrong with that :shrug:

All in all, if your holes are taped shut, then plenty of CO2 will build up (even with sufficient GE) because of the colonizing, metabolizing, and thriving mycelium and the amount of it in a Monotub.






It's detrimental to your tub to open it before it's fully colonized, so there is something wrong with it. Patience goes a long way in this hobby.

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Re: Spiky rhizo growth in colonizing monotub? [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #20258861 - 07/11/14 05:30 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

You guys have to stop this.

Please.

Opening your tub real quick to take a picture is NOT going to trigger pinning considering the CO2 levels will rise back up to normal within less than an hour of replacing the lid.  That is simply not long enough to tell the mycelium to stop what it's doing and fruit.

The tub DOES look fine and I don't suspect him having opened it is going to be what fucks this up for him either.  If there are contaminant spores in the air opening it for a minute isn't what's going to give them their golden chance, they're already in there.


I have tubs with SUPER loose lids that honestly may as well be off and my tubs still don't pin before full colonization.  You know why?

The number one pinning trigger ISN'T fresh air, it's full colonization, followed by evaporation of moisture from the surface of the substrate.

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Also TranscendingLife is a cool dude and he has solid methods but the Shroomery is still growing, pushing the limits, and dispelling the myths that made us do so much unnecessary shit in yesteryear.


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