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Auckland Guy
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Making capsules from your mushies
#20238545 - 07/07/14 06:24 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Heya Fellas, not sure what forum this fitted into but thought this would prob be the best.
So I've got just over 90grams of dried subs of all sizes, plus about 15grams of dried subsects.........what do i do??????
I was going to grind up the whole lot up together and just use the capsule maker machine to cap em all. We did a trip the on the weekend and just chewed a dried mushie each, they were all just under a gram each and that was definitely enough, so guessing to try get around 0.8-1gram per cap. Any suggestions etc, what should i use to bulk em up, im using 00 caps, just glucose???? As always thanks guys
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Re: Making capsules from your mushies [Re: Auckland Guy]
#20238603 - 07/07/14 06:37 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Not this one, prob cultivation
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Re: Making capsules from your mushies [Re: doctorghosty] 1
#20238632 - 07/07/14 06:41 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've used this technique before pretty much how you've described on my last road trip. I used "00" gelatin capsules and Copelandia mushrooms. An important step is making sure the material is completely dry and ground as fine as possible. I also removed the gills from them to save space, though it's not necessary to do so.
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Re: Making capsules from your mushies [Re: Auckland Guy] 2
#20238861 - 07/07/14 07:20 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Put the dried mushrooms into a blender and run on high for ten minutes to make a powder. Put the powder into capsules and put that into an echinacea bottle. This will provide protection from the evil police.
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Auckland Guy
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Thats what im wanting to hear, but i will be able to get more than 1gram into each capsule and I dont want that. what are you using to cut the mushies with? spirulina powder, glucose, rice flour. The subs i have are way potent and dont want the caps to be to heavy for first timers. cheers
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Re: Making capsules from your mushies [Re: Auckland Guy]
#20239334 - 07/07/14 08:36 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Auckland Guy said: Thats what im wanting to hear, but i will be able to get more than 1gram into each capsule and I dont want that. what are you using to cut the mushies with? spirulina powder, glucose, rice flour. The subs i have are way potent and dont want the caps to be to heavy for first timers. cheers
No need to add cut, just put less in each capsule. If I remember correctly "00" only hold 700-900mgs anyways.
You can also just use smaller capsules.
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Re: Making capsules from your mushies [Re: Auckland Guy]
#20239396 - 07/07/14 08:46 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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My 00 hold .5 grams. I run the dry reishi mushroom thru a coffee grinder or Vince Shlomie "slap a hoe" style grinder to turn it to powder. Then use a capulator to pack into 00 gel caps (usually do 3 packs into each capsule). The gel cap+powder always equals .5 for me...
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Re: Making capsules from your mushies [Re: Wrath]
#20254441 - 07/10/14 06:11 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Knarkkorven's mushroom tabs:
This TEK is made for big batches like when you run out of room in the freezer. 
* Write down/remember the weight of the mushrooms... so you can calculate the dose later. * Extract all the goodies by cooking them in water made acidic (1g ascorbic acid per cooking is prefered) 3 times x 20 minutes. Pour off and collect the water every time. Strain with a cloth (old, but clean T-shirt etc.) . * Combine the liquids and boil them down. Turn down the heat when it looks like molten chocolate. WATCH IT NOW, DO NOT LEAVE THE ROOM! * When it's really thick, pour it on a plate. The leftovers in the pot can be made liquid again with a spoon of water, then repeat. Let the tar on the plate dry even more in the oven (70-100C) * Spread a large amount of ascorbic acid powder on a plate * Use your fingers to form small tabs of the black mushroom tar, using the ascorbic acid to remove the stickiness (If you have gelatin capsules you can of course put the tar in those). If your tar is to wet, let it sit some more in the oven, if it's to dry to form, spray some water on it and wait a while for it to become softer again. * Let the tabs dry a day or so in the open... or the will become sticky again when removed from the freezer.
Dose in a tab = mushroom weight / number of tabs. The goal is to have a strong dose in just a couple of tabs.
Like this, I get 43 libs in one 0,7g tab (thats almost 2g mushrooms per 0,7g ascrorbic acid covered tab). Very compact and easy to store in the freezer (small jar) and dose. Easy to swallow, no bad taste, comes on like normal mushrooms, except all psilocybin is converted into psilocin which make the trip peak earlier and stronger. 
The reason a ~25mg trip still weights 0,7g is that it that large parts (>50%) of the mushroom is soluble in hot water. But the tabs still take less space than dried/powdered mushrooms.
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Re: Making capsules from your mushies (moved) [Re: Auckland Guy]
#20254517 - 07/10/14 06:26 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Mushroom Hunting and Identification.
Reason: Fits better here
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Auckland Guy
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Re: Making capsules from your mushies [Re: knarkkorven]
#20254535 - 07/10/14 06:31 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Holy heck, thats a little more advanced than i was looking for bro. Interesting method but good old grinded dried mushies into gelatin caps will work.
This method sounds like trouble and a complete loss of all mushies if your not very carefull. cheers for your input, mabey next time when im brave enough
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Re: Making capsules from your mushies [Re: Wrath]
#20275695 - 07/15/14 07:50 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wrath said: My 00 hold .5 grams. I run the dry reishi mushroom thru a coffee grinder or Vince Shlomie "slap a hoe" style grinder to turn it to powder. Then use a capulator to pack into 00 gel caps (usually do 3 packs into each capsule). The gel cap+powder always equals .5 for me...
I find I get only about .3g in each, even after tamping 4-5 times.
Just an additional note; oxygen kills psylosybn, so be sure to cap them right away, and pack them as tightly as you can.
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Re: Making capsules from your mushies [Re: Auckland Guy]
#20275776 - 07/15/14 08:23 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Auckland Guy said: Holy heck, thats a little more advanced than i was looking for bro. Interesting method but good old grinded dried mushies into gelatin caps will work.
Perhaps this method will be more to your liking. You end up with pure psilocybin crystals. Unlike the PF crystals of the gods tek, it actually works.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20018806
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said:
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Auckland Guy said: Holy heck, thats a little more advanced than i was looking for bro. Interesting method but good old grinded dried mushies into gelatin caps will work.
Perhaps this method will be more to your liking. You end up with pure psilocybin crystals. Unlike the PF crystals of the gods tek, it actually works.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20018806
I'm sure it does, but most of the world doesn't have ready access to most of these chemicals. And put in the wrong hands could be dangerous. Just eat the damn things
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Re: Making capsules from your mushies [Re: MrBreakingBad]
#20346370 - 07/29/14 11:40 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok boyz, have all mushies grinded and capsulated. A sweet 220 caps, from just over 100grams of dried subs I packed them pretty tightly into the caps, have those dry bags thingies in the container with them and storing in the freezer. I'll be taking these for a test drive over the weekend, but guessing 2-3 caps will be more than enough???
A couple questions
How long will the potency of these babys last? Is there a better method of keeping in the freezer? As always any advice appreciated........well most
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Re: Making capsules from your mushies [Re: Auckland Guy]
#20347860 - 07/29/14 05:00 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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vacuum seal + freezer would be the best I imagine no light and no heat is always a good thing from previous posts I've read, the potency shouldn't be affected for a long time
how are people only getting less than 1g in a cap? I can get ~2g in each 00 capsule 
Edited by wizardofahhz (07/29/14 05:01 PM)
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Re: Making capsules from your mushies [Re: Auckland Guy]
#20348284 - 07/29/14 06:22 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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According to Asante's capsule FAQ (I think it was Asante), they can last for years in the freezer. Just let them warm up before you open the bottle so you don't get condensation on the inside .
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Re: Making capsules from your mushies [Re: PRE66 6TART]
#20349607 - 07/30/14 12:55 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thats awesome guys Appreciate the replies, awesome to know that you can still have the same potency once summer comes round....much nicer sitting around the old fire-pit on the deck watching candles and the sky
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Re: Making capsules from your mushies [Re: Auckland Guy] 1
#20354256 - 07/31/14 04:37 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Adding some photos for my capsule guide. The last stage of boiling, comparison with 500mg pill and some pills on a plate with ascorbic acid.
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Re: Making capsules from your mushies [Re: knarkkorven]
#20357106 - 07/31/14 07:07 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mate thats looks really impressive 
Why can i ask, do you and alot of others go to all the trouble in these crazy methods.
Is it just for fun, do they keep better, are they more potent.
Im all about the easiest way, i would have thought simply drying/grinding/capping would be that....other than the obvious straight eating......but lets face it we aren't cavemen
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Re: Making capsules from your mushies [Re: Auckland Guy]
#20358876 - 08/01/14 02:23 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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I can't stand the taste of mushrooms any more... I developed a psychological thing for the taste after having no problems for the first 10-20 times. With the tablets this is not a problem any more.
Extraction also remove all stomach issues due to digestion problems (humans can't break down mushroom tissue)
And the psilocybin -> psilocin conversion make the trip stronger and more visual (but shorter lasting).
But the main thing was to save space in the freezer.
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