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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Shroomteck]
    #20249480 - 07/09/14 06:47 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

You're not actually supposed to use an external heating source when dealing with colonizing jars!! By the way lol. The jars are from 5-10 degrees warmer than the ambient air in your room, which could spell disaster for your jars!!

You don't necisarily want them in a box either. A cupboard is fine but they do need that GE.


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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Synec]
    #20249514 - 07/09/14 06:52 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Foil's been removed now we wait and see. Do you guys think that because the jars are being held inside what's more or less an air tight container that could be limiting gas exchange?

I'm not expecting much of a crop since this is my first rodeo, but what would be a reasonable estimate of what to expect per cake per flush once fruiting starts?


And thanks so much for everyone's feedback so far - it's giving me at least a little sense of security that I'm not botching this entire project!




No, they'll colonize just fine in a closed container, I know a TC that does this to avoid too many spores landing on the filter.

its hard to see under the foil, but you do have a dry verm layer right?

Your cakes dont look too good to me :sad:
you can see the different patterns and color shades in growth,
and in the first pics jar 1 and 2 show some clear signs of bacteria,
where the myc is all white but with a clear border where it has stopped.

I'd start a new batch and dont incubate this time, its more than warm enough anyway.

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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: PsiloBeast]
    #20249536 - 07/09/14 06:55 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

The incubator is not needed dude. i have my jars in a couple shoe boxes that i set in my closet with the lids propped open. :pipesmoke:

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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Myco_wizard]
    #20249597 - 07/09/14 07:04 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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The incubator is not needed dude. i have my jars in a couple shoe boxes that i set in my closet with the lids propped open. :pipesmoke:




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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: PsiloBeast]
    #20249638 - 07/09/14 07:09 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I want to start doing bulk grows

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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Shroomteck]
    #20249651 - 07/09/14 07:11 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

once you go bulk there's no going back :rofl:

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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Myco_wizard]
    #20249839 - 07/09/14 07:37 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: PsiloBeast]
    #20250112 - 07/09/14 08:35 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Right on man.

I'm still feeling my way around the world of mushrooms and there's so much to learn. I was operating under the assumption that light was nearly as important a GE.  :themoreyouknow:

I had left the tape on my jars for the first week and they were crawling. Upon removing the tape they exploded with growth.


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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: spacechildo]
    #20253528 - 07/10/14 02:56 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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No, they'll colonize just fine in a closed container, I know a TC that does this to avoid too many spores landing on the filter.

its hard to see under the foil, but you do have a dry verm layer right?

Your cakes dont look too good to me :sad:
you can see the different patterns and color shades in growth,
and in the first pics jar 1 and 2 show some clear signs of bacteria,
where the myc is all white but with a clear border where it has stopped.

I'd start a new batch and dont incubate this time, its more than warm enough anyway.




Yes, the jars have a dry verm layer.

So they're all showing signs of bacteria? Is it possible that the substrate being packed too densely is causing the borders, patterns, or shades in growth?

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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Synec]
    #20253540 - 07/10/14 03:00 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

yes it can. even making the sub too wet can make jars look like that,
but that moisture usually sinks with gravity to the bottom
of jars shaped like that.

well, when I look at your pics again some of them are quite bad.
just water content or tightly packed sub.

it might have been your syringe and it might have been the foil has gotten your dry verm moist.
the way the contams are all over the place I'd guess your syringe or maybe even sterilization time. 90mins stock pot = 60 mins PC tho, so :shrug:

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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: spacechildo]
    #20253813 - 07/10/14 03:50 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Thinking back the one thing I was curious about was how the dry verm layer stayed dry while in the PC. I sat the jars on top of extra lids while in the PC and filled the water up just above the extra lids, so I don't know how the water content could've been altered by that. The initial water content was as close as possible to what is recommended in this guide: http://www.fungifun.org/English/Pftek

I'm not completely sold that my syringe was sterile - I couldn't find an alcohol lamp so I had to improvise.

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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Synec]
    #20253820 - 07/10/14 03:51 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

you didn't flame sterilzie your syringe??

www.mushroomvideos.com :super:

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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: spacechildo]
    #20254053 - 07/10/14 04:41 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I didn't have anything capable of heating it to the point where it became red so I went with rubbing alcohol...

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Are any of these jars worth keeping? Or should I toss them all and start over?

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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Synec]
    #20254243 - 07/10/14 05:24 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

A candle will heat your needle to red...............


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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: PsiloBeast]
    #20254541 - 07/10/14 06:33 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

i flip a shot glass upside down, pour the alcohol into the bottom and light it up, it holds enough to flame my needles or whatever tool I'm using to red hot, or you could use a lighter or candle as mentioned above


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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Johnny Dont]
    #20263188 - 07/12/14 02:34 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

So are any of them worth keeping, or should they all be disposed of?

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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Synec]
    #20263819 - 07/12/14 05:44 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I'm still really new at this but those don't look too good to me, man.

Go pick up some half pint widemouth jars or half pint plastic jars made by glad or Ziploc. If you do go with the plastic be sure they are pp5 plastic. Those will stand up to high sustained temperature required for the tek.

Search "plastic tek"

I inoculated five plastic jars 3 days after the jars you have and they finished colonizing a couple days ahead.

Good luck!


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