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Techronic
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Time to fruit?
#20252555 - 07/10/14 11:12 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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My monotub is looking great and I wanted to know if now is the time to fruit.
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Edited by Techronic (07/10/14 11:19 AM)
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Squandary
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Looks 100% colonized, so yeah
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MastaBlastar
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Oh ya with that pic its clearly trich.
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Edited by MastaBlastar (07/11/14 07:32 PM)
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Techronic
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I just discovered some trich in the tub...damn.
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Captainpaps
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its all good mane, fruit that shit anyways but do it outdoors!
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Techronic
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Fruiting outside isn't possible in my current situation, any other tips? Any way to slow down the process of trich to atleast get my first flush out?
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MastaBlastar
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No, it can be done indoors, but will spread trich inside your house.
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Techronic
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How would I go about doing it outdoors?
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Wow.... bottom right in the picture. Greeeeen!!
Im sorry man. 
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Techronic
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Yeah i know :/ you can imagine my pain when i saw that.
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cowsRmeat
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Noob question. What are the chances of just scooping out the bit of trich with a spoon or cut it out with a knife? I mean I know there has to be a reason why you cant, especially since nobody has suggested it, but I am just inexperienced and dont know what that reason is.
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Captainpaps
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because if you decide to do that, it will spread mold spores all over your grow area.... epic fail
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Techronic
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Once the Trich is green, it's spores have been shot and it's near impossible to reverse or fix the problem. I'm just trying to find a way to get atleast one flush out.
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Captainpaps
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just fruit the tub outside, you could take the colonized sub out and bury it, I had a really nice tub that had a spot of trich on it but I was determined to get something out of it, so I dug a small hold broke the cake up threw it in the hole and just put cow manure compost over it, and I got a really decent flush out of it
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TheEaglesGift
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Captainpaps said: because if you decide to do that, it will spread mold spores all over your grow area.... epic fail
I think this fear is hugely overblown.
Op, since you can't fruit outdoors, cut the trich out and try to fruit it and get what you can out of it for a 1st flush. If the trich comes back at all , toss it. It's just one tiny spot of trich right? The pictures aren't clear. If it's more you shouldn't bother.
I've had entire tubs turn green on me while they were colonizing. I'm not talking a 1x1 inch spot of trich, I'm talking the entire tub. I live in an apartment and can't take it outside to deal with, so I have to deal with it in and clean it in my kithen. Point is, you're always going to have contaminant spores in your home, ALWAYS. It's best to avoid adding copious amounts to your homes spore load, but your home will always have a spore load and our main dfense against it is sterile technique during inoculation.
I'll list you some vectors of contamination in all of our homes:
our own bodies our toilets our bathroom sink stoppers are always covered in black mold(check yours, I bet it does) our house plants dirt we track in with our shoes are the air from outside if you live anywhere besides the desert or the tundra the food you bring in the house the drip pan in your AC/fridge your heating/ac ducts your basement, if it's not a dry basement moldy food in your fridge
Despite all of these vectors of contamination we can still grow. It's a miracle.
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Techronic
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The trich is all over the tub, but since I'm not too experienced, i'm going to ignore all advice to chuck the grow and still try to get a flush out of it. Idk why but i still have hope.
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Techronic said: The trich is all over the tub, but since I'm not too experienced, i'm going to ignore all advice to chuck the grow and still try to get a flush out of it. Idk why but i still have hope.
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MastaBlastar
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Re: Time to fruit? [Re: cronicr]
#20259594 - 07/11/14 07:59 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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cronicr said:
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Techronic said: The trich is all over the tub, but since I'm not too experienced, i'm going to ignore all advice to chuck the grow and still try to get a flush out of it. Idk why but i still have hope.

 
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TheEaglesGift
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Techronic said: The trich is all over the tub, but since I'm not too experienced, i'm going to ignore all advice to chuck the grow and still try to get a flush out of it. Idk why but i still have hope.
One tiny spot is one thing, a tub fully colonized in sporulating trich is another.
Dude, toss the fucking sub. You don't want to be a trich farmer.
Start a new project right away, it'll make you feel better.
Try to figure out why this project failed, and let's be honest, it failed.. and try to rectify the issue the next time around.
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Techronic
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Alright, I'll chuck it. Hurts a damn lot though. Thanks for the advice everyone.
Edited by Techronic (07/11/14 10:53 PM)
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cronicr



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TheEaglesGift
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Like I said buddy, start a new project soon. You'll feel a lot better about it. Next time you got it.
What do you think caused the contamination? Dirty grain? Improper pasteurization? Did you use coir or dung/straw?
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MastaBlastar
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Keep at it, don't let the get you down.
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Techronic
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I plan to start a new one as soon as i get the money for a pressure cooker. I used bought, pre-sterilized rye berries and compost as a substrate. From now on I'm going t do it all myself.
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TheEaglesGift
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Techronic said: I plan to start a new one as soon as i get the money for a pressure cooker. I used bought, pre-sterilized rye berries and compost as a substrate. From now on I'm going t do it all myself.
Very good idea. DIY is the way to go. Amazon has cheap All Americans(oxy moron), which are the Lamborghini of pressure cookers. You can also check out local thrift stores for used PCs. I dropped over 300 on my 30 quart All American and it was the single best investment I made in the hobby(my flow hood would be if I didn't inherit it).
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DaBrownOne91
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You've already put the tub into fruiting by opening the lid to take that pic. Usually fruit when you have a decent amount of pins popped up and they're about a 1/4 inch tall.
Keep a close eye on your tubs. You can scoop that trick spot out with some sterile tools and still get some yield out of the tub. Trich can spread super fast, so take care of it right away.
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DaBrownOne91 said: You've already put the tub into fruiting by opening the lid to take that pic.
No he didn't.......opening the lid to take a quick picture is not going to fruit the tub.
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DaBrownOne91 said: Usually fruit when you have a decent amount of pins popped up and they're about a 1/4 inch tall.
We usually fruit bulk at full colonization, regardless of if there are pins present or not.
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tripdawg420
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my tubs hate when i wait for pins to fruit
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DaBrownOne91
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Damn, looks like I'm spreading a bunch of misinformation. My bad guys. Maybe I need to get back on here more often and reading updated stuff lol.
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tripdawg420
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some people do it like that with nice results
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cronicr



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DaBrownOne91 said: Damn, looks like I'm spreading a bunch of misinformation. My bad guys. Maybe I need to get back on here more often and reading updated stuff lol.
not really any "badinfo"
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tripdawg420 said: some people do it like that with nice results 
exactly but indeed i also get alot more aborts
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DaBrownOne91 said: You can scoop that trick spot out with some sterile tools and still get some yield out of the tub. Trich can spread super fast, so take care of it right away.
I have never had much luck removing it. Once its there, its there. Any place I scoop out has trich back in the hole the next day. In any colonized areas. An established colony of mold WILL propagate on coir, regardless of coir's "resistance" to contaminates. I have not even noticed much decrease in the rate of colonization for the mold. I also woud think messing around with it period inside just spreads spores, as isn't it once it turns green, those are spores? I am not trying to claim I know for sure either, this is just what I have seen and read.
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Techronic
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Ah, that kind of pricing is out of my budget though. However, using your luxury car scale, is Presto the BMW of the pressure cooker world?
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tripdawg420
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i would say aa is
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cronicr



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presto would be the bmwbut aa would be the royles royce
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Re: Time to fruit? [Re: cronicr]
#20271558 - 07/14/14 02:45 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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cronicr said: presto would be the bmwbut aa would be the royles royce
I hate the rubber gaskets presto uses for their lid seal. Presto will get you by for sure, but All Americans are just so superbly made. You get the impression you could set off a stick of dynamite inside and nothing would happen to it.
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An established colony of mold WILL propagate on coir, regardless of coir's "resistance" to contaminates.
Coirs only real resistance to mold is that mold spores don't like to germinate on it, and the resistance ends there. Mold mycelium has no issues spreading like wild fire on it though, so one has to always make sure their spawn is clean obviously. If your spawn is dirty, coir won't save the day.
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cronicr



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even if you find an old one of any brand at the second hand store there great, all these new aluminum ones will never last or be as reliable but for 70 bux they work out alright
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Re: Time to fruit? [Re: cronicr]
#20272219 - 07/14/14 05:05 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ya after about a year and a half my 2 al prestos are wearing out. Bottoms warping, leaking more, melted a few bags running out of water. Replacing the gaskets did not help.
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Wearing after only 1.5 years? Fuck that noise. My All American 30 quart is going on 4 years and looks and works like the first day I bought. Quality is reflected in the price with these pressure cookers apparently.
By the way, if anyone is looking for a hot plate that is industrial strength to handle the 30 quart and above pressure cookers I did A LOT of research to find this guy: BAD ASS GERMAN HOT PLATE. I call it German because despite being a Cadco, mine is a german model and has the words "HOT CHODE" printed in bold red across the front. 
My glass top counter top couldn't handle my 30 and 40 quart PCs obviously, so I had to find a hot plate. Sadly, most of the cheaply made american hot plates can't get something like a filled 30 quart up to 15 psi, or even 10 psi. This guy on the other hand, does the job perfectly. 4 years and going strong.
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Dam croncir I didnt notice that was u with that new avatar
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cronicr



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get use to it i change it alot
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