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Shiro
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harvesting in 4 days?????
#20251875 - 07/10/14 07:56 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Please help!!! Should I pick my cubensis now? About 4 of the bigger cubes that are now about 2 inches long have already broken their veils and I see their spore holder things. But the weird part is most of them are not even growig UP yet. And I thought mushrooms knew to break their veil when gravity is helping them. Are these early bloomers or what? Also the stems are extremely fat.
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Tyler_Trismegistus
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Re: harvesting in 4 days????? [Re: Shiro]
#20251914 - 07/10/14 08:10 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Can you post a picture for us? I wouldn't worry about a loss in potency too much its not like its very drastic. The more they weigh the more active alkaloids you have no matter what. I'd wait a couple days more but a picture would help me give a better piece of advice.
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PussyFart
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Tyler_Trismegistus said: The more they weigh the more active alkaloids you have no matter what.
This is false.....smaller fruits are more potent by weight.
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Tyler_Trismegistus
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Re: harvesting in 4 days????? [Re: PussyFart]
#20251964 - 07/10/14 08:35 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah by weight.... but 5 matured fruits are going to have more actives than 5 small ones.
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PussyFart
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Tyler_Trismegistus said: Yeah by weight.... but 5 matured fruits are going to have more actives than 5 small ones.
Weight is what matters bud.......5 large mature mushrooms can weigh 30 grams dry......5 small ones can weigh 1 gram dry.
If you eat the same amount in weight, the smaller ones will get you higher while eating less mass.
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Edited by PussyFart (07/10/14 08:47 AM)
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Tyler_Trismegistus
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Re: harvesting in 4 days????? [Re: PussyFart]
#20252083 - 07/10/14 09:20 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I know I agree I think maybe I'm wording this wrong. I'm just trying to say if he let's them mature he will have more weight which in turn will be more actives. If he picks them now before they reach full size the fruits might contain a higher concentration but he will sacrifice the yield
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Dos Ounce
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the highest concentration of actives is right when the veil breaks.
once the veil breaks, the mushrooms may get bigger but there are no added actives.
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Tyler_Trismegistus
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Re: harvesting in 4 days????? [Re: Dos Ounce]
#20252124 - 07/10/14 09:35 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I thought the qctives still get produced but just at a lower rate since they use energy to spread spores?
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Squandary
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I think this is being overcomplicated
>do you want spore prints or max potency
>spores wait for maturation
>potency wait til the veil is just about to break
@OP if you are interested in potency, pick them now. if you want spore prints, you could actually still pick them now and lay them down, or wait a little bit and lay them in say half a day or so.
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Mushiez



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Tyler_Trismegistus said: I know I agree I think maybe I'm wording this wrong. I'm just trying to say if he let's them mature he will have more weight which in turn will be more actives. If he picks them now before they reach full size the fruits might contain a higher concentration but he will sacrifice the yield
No dude, you're straight up wrong on this one and you should not squabble with a TC on it. A muture fruit has the same amount of actives as it did when the veil was tearing. Mass goes up, alkaloids are static after veil tears. The end
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Tyler_Trismegistus
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Re: harvesting in 4 days????? [Re: Mushiez]
#20252308 - 07/10/14 10:29 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm not arguing lol I just obviously have some misconceptions that needed clarifying.
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