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To shake or not??
    #20249470 - 07/09/14 06:46 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Jars of bulk substrate.  I've read tons of conflicting info through the years, some say shake at 20-30% colonization, I just read something that said to only shake jars once at inoculation and then never shake again .  What seems to be the most current opinion?  What do you guys do?  Do you shake after jar has started colonizing?


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Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Kryptic]
    #20249490 - 07/09/14 06:49 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I'd like to know what the community thinks on this topic too.

I've been breaking up my grain bags at about 30 and then again at 70. Not with every bag, but as an experiment. It seems to help.

I just got my first master grain jar today and put some Treasure Coast in it. I didn't shake it at all yet. Yet another experiment.


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Re: To shake or not?? [Re: HigglePig]
    #20249498 - 07/09/14 06:50 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Shake bulk spawn, helps faster colonization

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Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Shroomteck]
    #20249566 - 07/09/14 07:00 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

:picdidnthappen:
we need pics


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Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Shroomteck]
    #20249573 - 07/09/14 07:00 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Shake at 25-30%. Spreading out colonized grains helps speed up colonization time.

Some people shake questionable jars again at 90% or so to see if they recover. Jars that don't recover are often tossed because it's a good sign of contamination.


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Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Kryptic]
    #20249578 - 07/09/14 07:01 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Kryptic said:
Jars of bulk substrate.  I've read tons of conflicting info through the years, some say shake at 20-30% colonization, I just read something that said to only shake jars once at inoculation and then never shake again .  What seems to be the most current opinion?  What do you guys do?  Do you shake after jar has started colonizing?




You shouldnt shake right after inoc , you'd want the spores to stay together and find each other when they germinate.
Shaking at 20-30% to redistribute the colonized grains is genious!
Once the start recovering the jars are done in just a couple days or 4.

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Re: To shake or not?? [Re: spacechildo]
    #20249581 - 07/09/14 07:02 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

( i just like to see pics )


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Re: To shake or not?? [Re: TheApprentice]
    #20249590 - 07/09/14 07:03 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

No porn for you

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Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Shroomteck]
    #20249692 - 07/09/14 07:16 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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No porn for you




no rating for u bitch!

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Re: To shake or not?? [Re: TheApprentice]
    #20249697 - 07/09/14 07:17 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Here's some pics, my photo skills suck sorry.  These are 3 of the 6 jars I have going.  The 1st one is a beast.







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Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Kryptic]
    #20249729 - 07/09/14 07:21 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Looks great, I'd shake 'em all like hell! :super:

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Re: To shake or not?? [Re: spacechildo]
    #20249757 - 07/09/14 07:25 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Looks great, I'd shake 'em all like hell! :super:




ya!!!

Shake em like my avatar!!!!:ohboyohboyohboy:


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Re: To shake or not?? [Re: spacechildo]
    #20249759 - 07/09/14 07:25 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe I'll shake then.  I have 1 of 6 at about 85%.  The others are prob near 30's.  I kind of wanted them all ready at the same time.  I guess living organisms do their own thing  lol.  Anyway, maybe I should shake the other 5, I probably would have already but I just read something that said "no matter what you've read, don't shake the jars.".


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Re: To shake or not?? [Re: TheApprentice]
    #20249767 - 07/09/14 07:27 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

so can I get a rate since I came with the pics? lol

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Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Kryptic]
    #20249772 - 07/09/14 07:27 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

if you shake them they'll end up finishing pretty damn close to each other.
At least much more simultaneously than if you didn't shake them (like master shake)
I promise!

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Re: To shake or not?? [Re: spacechildo]
    #20249777 - 07/09/14 07:28 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

word.  I'll shake tonight.


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Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Kryptic]
    #20249786 - 07/09/14 07:29 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Good on yah

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Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Shroomteck]
    #20249944 - 07/09/14 07:58 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

shake at 30.

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Re: To shake or not?? [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #20250596 - 07/09/14 10:15 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

ok, I shook the shit out of them.  I was able to get all the myc broken away from the jars, in a couple there are pretty large chunks of grain that didn't break up just kind of bounced around in there, I don't see any way I could have gotten them broken up any more.  Let's see what they do now. <fingers crossed>


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Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Kryptic]
    #20250610 - 07/09/14 10:19 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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ok, I shook the shit out of them.  I was able to get all the myc broken away from the jars, in a couple there are pretty large chunks of grain that didn't break up just kind of bounced around in there, I don't see any way I could have gotten them broken up any more.  Let's see what they do now. <fingers crossed>





How did you shake it up? You can bang your jars against an old bike tire or rolled up phone book. That gets the job done.

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