|
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
Kryptic
Harvester of Sorrow



Registered: 05/21/10
Posts: 90
Loc: lost
Last seen: 7 years, 8 months
|
To shake or not??
#20249470 - 07/09/14 06:46 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Jars of bulk substrate. I've read tons of conflicting info through the years, some say shake at 20-30% colonization, I just read something that said to only shake jars once at inoculation and then never shake again . What seems to be the most current opinion? What do you guys do? Do you shake after jar has started colonizing?
|
HigglePig
Ageless Stranger


Registered: 06/05/14
Posts: 123
Last seen: 10 years, 3 months
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Kryptic]
#20249490 - 07/09/14 06:49 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
I'd like to know what the community thinks on this topic too.
I've been breaking up my grain bags at about 30 and then again at 70. Not with every bag, but as an experiment. It seems to help.
I just got my first master grain jar today and put some Treasure Coast in it. I didn't shake it at all yet. Yet another experiment.
-------------------- Tangential to my main perpendicular vertices.
|
Shroomteck
Stranger


Registered: 09/02/13
Posts: 53
Last seen: 3 years, 2 months
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: HigglePig]
#20249498 - 07/09/14 06:50 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Shake bulk spawn, helps faster colonization
|
TheApprentice
back at it



Registered: 09/25/11
Posts: 4,727
Last seen: 3 years, 1 month
|
|
 we need pics
--------------------
RR Videos -Best $9 Ever Spent *
No Pour AGAR Tek * Easy COIR Trays! *
Pink Oysters on Newspaper TEK
"Yeah? Well, DRACULA called... and he said he's coming over tonight, and I said OK!"
|
SpitballJedi
Ancient Astronaut



Registered: 10/13/12
Posts: 8,598
Loc: Nibiru
|
|
Shake at 25-30%. Spreading out colonized grains helps speed up colonization time.
Some people shake questionable jars again at 90% or so to see if they recover. Jars that don't recover are often tossed because it's a good sign of contamination.
-------------------- The Basics
A little civility goes a long way
The Noob Forum
The Hammock Hangers' Forum
|
spacechildo
proletarians rise up



Registered: 01/24/13
Posts: 19,243
Loc: Babylon
Last seen: 7 years, 4 months
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Kryptic]
#20249578 - 07/09/14 07:01 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Kryptic said: Jars of bulk substrate. I've read tons of conflicting info through the years, some say shake at 20-30% colonization, I just read something that said to only shake jars once at inoculation and then never shake again . What seems to be the most current opinion? What do you guys do? Do you shake after jar has started colonizing?
You shouldnt shake right after inoc , you'd want the spores to stay together and find each other when they germinate. Shaking at 20-30% to redistribute the colonized grains is genious! Once the start recovering the jars are done in just a couple days or 4.
|
TheApprentice
back at it



Registered: 09/25/11
Posts: 4,727
Last seen: 3 years, 1 month
|
|
( i just like to see pics )
--------------------
RR Videos -Best $9 Ever Spent *
No Pour AGAR Tek * Easy COIR Trays! *
Pink Oysters on Newspaper TEK
"Yeah? Well, DRACULA called... and he said he's coming over tonight, and I said OK!"
|
Shroomteck
Stranger


Registered: 09/02/13
Posts: 53
Last seen: 3 years, 2 months
|
|
No porn for you
|
TheApprentice
back at it



Registered: 09/25/11
Posts: 4,727
Last seen: 3 years, 1 month
|
|
Quote:
Shroomteck said: No porn for you
no rating for u bitch!
--------------------
RR Videos -Best $9 Ever Spent *
No Pour AGAR Tek * Easy COIR Trays! *
Pink Oysters on Newspaper TEK
"Yeah? Well, DRACULA called... and he said he's coming over tonight, and I said OK!"
|
Kryptic
Harvester of Sorrow



Registered: 05/21/10
Posts: 90
Loc: lost
Last seen: 7 years, 8 months
|
|
Here's some pics, my photo skills suck sorry. These are 3 of the 6 jars I have going. The 1st one is a beast.


|
spacechildo
proletarians rise up



Registered: 01/24/13
Posts: 19,243
Loc: Babylon
Last seen: 7 years, 4 months
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Kryptic]
#20249729 - 07/09/14 07:21 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Looks great, I'd shake 'em all like hell!
|
TheApprentice
back at it



Registered: 09/25/11
Posts: 4,727
Last seen: 3 years, 1 month
|
|
Quote:
spacechildo said: Looks great, I'd shake 'em all like hell! 
ya!!!
Shake em like my avatar!!!!
--------------------
RR Videos -Best $9 Ever Spent *
No Pour AGAR Tek * Easy COIR Trays! *
Pink Oysters on Newspaper TEK
"Yeah? Well, DRACULA called... and he said he's coming over tonight, and I said OK!"
|
Kryptic
Harvester of Sorrow



Registered: 05/21/10
Posts: 90
Loc: lost
Last seen: 7 years, 8 months
|
|
Maybe I'll shake then. I have 1 of 6 at about 85%. The others are prob near 30's. I kind of wanted them all ready at the same time. I guess living organisms do their own thing lol. Anyway, maybe I should shake the other 5, I probably would have already but I just read something that said "no matter what you've read, don't shake the jars.".
|
Kryptic
Harvester of Sorrow



Registered: 05/21/10
Posts: 90
Loc: lost
Last seen: 7 years, 8 months
|
|
so can I get a rate since I came with the pics? lol
Edited by Kryptic (07/09/14 07:27 PM)
|
spacechildo
proletarians rise up



Registered: 01/24/13
Posts: 19,243
Loc: Babylon
Last seen: 7 years, 4 months
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Kryptic]
#20249772 - 07/09/14 07:27 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
if you shake them they'll end up finishing pretty damn close to each other. At least much more simultaneously than if you didn't shake them (like master shake) I promise!
|
Kryptic
Harvester of Sorrow



Registered: 05/21/10
Posts: 90
Loc: lost
Last seen: 7 years, 8 months
|
|
word. I'll shake tonight.
|
Shroomteck
Stranger


Registered: 09/02/13
Posts: 53
Last seen: 3 years, 2 months
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Kryptic]
#20249786 - 07/09/14 07:29 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Good on yah
|
TheEaglesGift
The Nagual


Registered: 04/10/11
Posts: 10,554
Loc: Ixtlan, Mexico
|
|
shake at 30.
|
Kryptic
Harvester of Sorrow



Registered: 05/21/10
Posts: 90
Loc: lost
Last seen: 7 years, 8 months
|
|
ok, I shook the shit out of them. I was able to get all the myc broken away from the jars, in a couple there are pretty large chunks of grain that didn't break up just kind of bounced around in there, I don't see any way I could have gotten them broken up any more. Let's see what they do now. <fingers crossed>
|
TheEaglesGift
The Nagual


Registered: 04/10/11
Posts: 10,554
Loc: Ixtlan, Mexico
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Kryptic]
#20250610 - 07/09/14 10:19 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Kryptic said: ok, I shook the shit out of them. I was able to get all the myc broken away from the jars, in a couple there are pretty large chunks of grain that didn't break up just kind of bounced around in there, I don't see any way I could have gotten them broken up any more. Let's see what they do now. <fingers crossed>
How did you shake it up? You can bang your jars against an old bike tire or rolled up phone book. That gets the job done.
|
Kryptic
Harvester of Sorrow



Registered: 05/21/10
Posts: 90
Loc: lost
Last seen: 7 years, 8 months
|
|
Bangged them against a leather bound book wrapped with a hand towel. All the myc broke away from the jar for sure but it didnt really all break up, most did but there were a few big chunks.
|
TheEaglesGift
The Nagual


Registered: 04/10/11
Posts: 10,554
Loc: Ixtlan, Mexico
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Kryptic]
#20251309 - 07/10/14 02:53 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
I'm sure it'll be fine. I've never had this issue you're describing, even with jars that sat colonized and consolidated for over 2 months.
Did you rinse your grains well when you prepped them?
|
cronicr



Registered: 08/07/11
Posts: 62,905
Loc: Van Isle
Last seen: 26 minutes, 7 seconds
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Kryptic]
#20251332 - 07/10/14 03:05 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Kryptic said: Bangged them against a leather bound book wrapped with a hand towel. All the myc broke away from the jar for sure but it didnt really all break up, most did but there were a few big chunks.
cube spawn should break up fairly easy, bacteria can be like breaking bricks though
-------------------- It doesn't matter what i think of you...all that matters is clean spawn
I'm tired do me a favor
|
TheEaglesGift
The Nagual


Registered: 04/10/11
Posts: 10,554
Loc: Ixtlan, Mexico
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: cronicr]
#20251364 - 07/10/14 03:31 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
You'd think he'd visually notice a bacterial infection though, but maybe not. Do you have any pictures?
|
cronicr



Registered: 08/07/11
Posts: 62,905
Loc: Van Isle
Last seen: 26 minutes, 7 seconds
|
|
Quote:
TheEaglesGift said: You'd think he'd visually notice a bacterial infection though, but maybe not. Do you have any pictures?
you would be surprised lol
-------------------- It doesn't matter what i think of you...all that matters is clean spawn
I'm tired do me a favor
|
spacechildo
proletarians rise up



Registered: 01/24/13
Posts: 19,243
Loc: Babylon
Last seen: 7 years, 4 months
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: cronicr]
#20251874 - 07/10/14 07:56 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
cronicr said:
Quote:
Kryptic said: Bangged them against a leather bound book wrapped with a hand towel. All the myc broke away from the jar for sure but it didnt really all break up, most did but there were a few big chunks.
cube spawn should break up fairly easy, bacteria can be like breaking bricks though
this. small pieces of bacteria usually still lets a tub have some decent flushes. clean healthy grain break up even without hitting the jar on anything, just shake it in your palm..
|
Kryptic
Harvester of Sorrow



Registered: 05/21/10
Posts: 90
Loc: lost
Last seen: 7 years, 8 months
|
|
No signs of infection, at least none I'm familiar with, pure white, no wet or slimey looking spots. I guess I'll know more in a couple days.
|
Kryptic
Harvester of Sorrow



Registered: 05/21/10
Posts: 90
Loc: lost
Last seen: 7 years, 8 months
|
|
Quote:
spacechildo said: this. small pieces of bacteria usually still lets a tub have some decent flushes. clean healthy grain break up even without hitting the jar on anything, just shake it in your palm..
?? Fully colonized spawn does not require banging?? To be sure we're talking about the same thing, All my uncolonized grain shook very easy, no banging required at all. It was the colonized bit that would break away from the jars and stayed in clumps. I'll post more pics in a couple days.
|
Dilated
KB Cubensis Fanaticus



Registered: 03/28/14
Posts: 2,347
Loc: The Ether
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Kryptic]
#20252261 - 07/10/14 10:19 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
This post was hard to read through. :cringe:
|
Edmunter
Mr



Registered: 05/01/13
Posts: 5,699
Last seen: 3 months, 7 days
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Dilated]
#20252841 - 07/10/14 12:04 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Dilated said: This post was hard to read through. :cringe:
Waste of ink.
Dont worry about waiting a few days when your first jar is fully colonised.
When done just dunk and spawn.........
|
TheApprentice
back at it



Registered: 09/25/11
Posts: 4,727
Last seen: 3 years, 1 month
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Edmunter]
#20252968 - 07/10/14 12:40 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Op
I have a phone book I dedicate for grain jars.
Got sick of ruining my good books
--------------------
RR Videos -Best $9 Ever Spent *
No Pour AGAR Tek * Easy COIR Trays! *
Pink Oysters on Newspaper TEK
"Yeah? Well, DRACULA called... and he said he's coming over tonight, and I said OK!"
|
PussyFart
Retired Cultivation Extrodinaire



Registered: 04/08/12
Posts: 22,502
Loc: Orbiting Earth
Last seen: 7 months, 28 days
|
|
I have a boot I dedicate to grain jars......haven't seen the other one in at least a year lol.
--------------------
THIS HOBBY IS NOT FOR THE IMPATIENT! PLEASE BE PATIENT, DON'T BE A PATIENT!
A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD,
SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
*** *** AFGHAN KUSH GROW LOG *** ***
|
Dilated
KB Cubensis Fanaticus



Registered: 03/28/14
Posts: 2,347
Loc: The Ether
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Edmunter]
#20253012 - 07/10/14 12:49 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
No it's a waste that no one give this poor person some good information. Some myc is very durable and it takes a very good "whack" to break up the grain/rye/oats etc.. QT jar's are not PF jars which you have to wait to fully colonize. The great thing about grain (I speak about grain because it is what I work with) is that it can be broke up at roughly 30% so that it can spread it's seed around the jar so that it can spread from there and colonize evenly. You can also break it up near the end of it's colonization to make sure that you have clean spawn. Another great thing about breaking up your spawn is that you can generally get a good "wiff" of clean mushroomy smell coming through your filter.
1. Inoculate (don't shake, as previously stated, so that the spores have a group to germinate with).
2. Wait, once the myc is starting to spread wait until roughly 25-30% colonization has occured then SHAKE vigorously (if it's being stubborn give it a good clean whack against the carpet or a tire as RR uses). This will spread the myc evenly and allow for a nice even spreading of the myc to occur.
3. Once you get to about 80-90% check and see if it looks nice and even.. if you still have some spots that look like it could take a long time break it up again. (you can get away with breaking up your grains 3 even 4 times, I don't recommend anymore then that as it could weaken your myc.)
4. at 100% you are either going G2G (grain 2 grain) with your spawn or you are spawning it to a bulk substrate. Either way it will need to broken up again so that it can be poured out of your jar. When I'm going G2G I break it up and try to catch a wiff THROUGH the filter. I get it into the SAB and do my G2G job (I'm not going to go step to step on this because there are plenty of tek's on here for this method). After I am done G2G I give the jar a good wiff because it is open to make sure the jar smelled like fresh mush (when using cubensis) to make sure it was clean.. if it smells funny it all gets thrown out (never happened yet). If you are spawning to bulk, if it took more then a week to get to 100% colonization I dunk my grains. This means breaking up all my spawn in the jars and then opening them and giving them a good wiff. If they smell good I pour them into a bucket and soak them with tap water for 20 minutes. This use to be a scary process but I stand by it and if your spawn is at 100% you will not have to worry about contamination. BREAKING UP YOUR SPAWN IS WHAT MAKES GRAIN/RYE/OATS ETC GREAT! hope this cleared some things up.
|
spacechildo
proletarians rise up



Registered: 01/24/13
Posts: 19,243
Loc: Babylon
Last seen: 7 years, 4 months
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Kryptic]
#20253506 - 07/10/14 02:49 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Kryptic said:
Quote:
spacechildo said: this. small pieces of bacteria usually still lets a tub have some decent flushes. clean healthy grain break up even without hitting the jar on anything, just shake it in your palm..
?? Fully colonized spawn does not require banging?? To be sure we're talking about the same thing, All my uncolonized grain shook very easy, no banging required at all. It was the colonized bit that would break away from the jars and stayed in clumps. I'll post more pics in a couple days.
colonized grains, yes. the "banging" against the glass in the jar is usually enough for me, even though a book or boot is easier.
when colonized grain stick together in clumps and don't break up easily to single kernels its usually because of bacteria.
If its just some small clumps its usually fine, it wont ruin your grow, but too much and it will weaken the myc to contams.
|
Edmunter
Mr



Registered: 05/01/13
Posts: 5,699
Last seen: 3 months, 7 days
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Dilated]
#20256421 - 07/11/14 03:37 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Dilated said: No it's a waste that no one give this poor person some good information. Some myc is very durable and it takes a very good "whack" to break up the grain/rye/oats etc.. QT jar's are not PF jars which you have to wait to fully colonize. The great thing about grain (I speak about grain because it is what I work with) is that it can be broke up at roughly 30% so that it can spread it's seed around the jar so that it can spread from there and colonize evenly. You can also break it up near the end of it's colonization to make sure that you have clean spawn. Another great thing about breaking up your spawn is that you can generally get a good "wiff" of clean mushroomy smell coming through your filter.
1. Inoculate (don't shake, as previously stated, so that the spores have a group to germinate with).
2. Wait, once the myc is starting to spread wait until roughly 25-30% colonization has occured then SHAKE vigorously (if it's being stubborn give it a good clean whack against the carpet or a tire as RR uses). This will spread the myc evenly and allow for a nice even spreading of the myc to occur.
3. Once you get to about 80-90% check and see if it looks nice and even.. if you still have some spots that look like it could take a long time break it up again. (you can get away with breaking up your grains 3 even 4 times, I don't recommend anymore then that as it could weaken your myc.)
4. at 100% you are either going G2G (grain 2 grain) with your spawn or you are spawning it to a bulk substrate. Either way it will need to broken up again so that it can be poured out of your jar. When I'm going G2G I break it up and try to catch a wiff THROUGH the filter. I get it into the SAB and do my G2G job (I'm not going to go step to step on this because there are plenty of tek's on here for this method). After I am done G2G I give the jar a good wiff because it is open to make sure the jar smelled like fresh mush (when using cubensis) to make sure it was clean.. if it smells funny it all gets thrown out (never happened yet). If you are spawning to bulk, if it took more then a week to get to 100% colonization I dunk my grains. This means breaking up all my spawn in the jars and then opening them and giving them a good wiff. If they smell good I pour them into a bucket and soak them with tap water for 20 minutes. This use to be a scary process but I stand by it and if your spawn is at 100% you will not have to worry about contamination. BREAKING UP YOUR SPAWN IS WHAT MAKES GRAIN/RYE/OATS ETC GREAT! hope this cleared some things up.
This was all said in the first 10 posts.
|
Dilated
KB Cubensis Fanaticus



Registered: 03/28/14
Posts: 2,347
Loc: The Ether
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Edmunter]
#20256567 - 07/11/14 05:16 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Edmunter said:
Quote:
Dilated said: No it's a waste that no one give this poor person some good information. Some myc is very durable and it takes a very good "whack" to break up the grain/rye/oats etc.. QT jar's are not PF jars which you have to wait to fully colonize. The great thing about grain (I speak about grain because it is what I work with) is that it can be broke up at roughly 30% so that it can spread it's seed around the jar so that it can spread from there and colonize evenly. You can also break it up near the end of it's colonization to make sure that you have clean spawn. Another great thing about breaking up your spawn is that you can generally get a good "wiff" of clean mushroomy smell coming through your filter.
1. Inoculate (don't shake, as previously stated, so that the spores have a group to germinate with).
2. Wait, once the myc is starting to spread wait until roughly 25-30% colonization has occured then SHAKE vigorously (if it's being stubborn give it a good clean whack against the carpet or a tire as RR uses). This will spread the myc evenly and allow for a nice even spreading of the myc to occur.
3. Once you get to about 80-90% check and see if it looks nice and even.. if you still have some spots that look like it could take a long time break it up again. (you can get away with breaking up your grains 3 even 4 times, I don't recommend anymore then that as it could weaken your myc.)
4. at 100% you are either going G2G (grain 2 grain) with your spawn or you are spawning it to a bulk substrate. Either way it will need to broken up again so that it can be poured out of your jar. When I'm going G2G I break it up and try to catch a wiff THROUGH the filter. I get it into the SAB and do my G2G job (I'm not going to go step to step on this because there are plenty of tek's on here for this method). After I am done G2G I give the jar a good wiff because it is open to make sure the jar smelled like fresh mush (when using cubensis) to make sure it was clean.. if it smells funny it all gets thrown out (never happened yet). If you are spawning to bulk, if it took more then a week to get to 100% colonization I dunk my grains. This means breaking up all my spawn in the jars and then opening them and giving them a good wiff. If they smell good I pour them into a bucket and soak them with tap water for 20 minutes. This use to be a scary process but I stand by it and if your spawn is at 100% you will not have to worry about contamination. BREAKING UP YOUR SPAWN IS WHAT MAKES GRAIN/RYE/OATS ETC GREAT! hope this cleared some things up.
This was all said in the first 10 posts.
Well I'm going to assume that you can't read then so I will not be having a discussion with you anymore. Only the first 2 steps were mentioned in any of the first 10 posts.
|
Edmunter
Mr



Registered: 05/01/13
Posts: 5,699
Last seen: 3 months, 7 days
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Dilated]
#20256579 - 07/11/14 05:25 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
You are too serious for me brother with your 'OMG I dont believe you people' vibes........ Chill out and spread some positiveness man. I mean you dissed 4 people who give the best advice on this forum.
|
Sockadin



Registered: 01/03/10
Posts: 7,266
Last seen: 1 month, 22 days
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Edmunter]
#20256648 - 07/11/14 05:55 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
So are we shaking?
|
TheApprentice
back at it



Registered: 09/25/11
Posts: 4,727
Last seen: 3 years, 1 month
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Sockadin]
#20256702 - 07/11/14 06:15 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
shake it like a crying baby!!!
--------------------
RR Videos -Best $9 Ever Spent *
No Pour AGAR Tek * Easy COIR Trays! *
Pink Oysters on Newspaper TEK
"Yeah? Well, DRACULA called... and he said he's coming over tonight, and I said OK!"
|
Sockadin



Registered: 01/03/10
Posts: 7,266
Last seen: 1 month, 22 days
|
|
Every time apprentice posts something I have to read it in master shakes voice.
|
Kryptic
Harvester of Sorrow



Registered: 05/21/10
Posts: 90
Loc: lost
Last seen: 7 years, 8 months
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Sockadin]
#20258011 - 07/11/14 01:19 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Well, so far looks like you guys were right (no jinx), before the shake the colonization was slow but steady. In 7 or so hrs it will be 48hrs since the shake, I just took a quick peek and it looks like they've exploded. I'll post pics a little later.
|
spacechildo
proletarians rise up



Registered: 01/24/13
Posts: 19,243
Loc: Babylon
Last seen: 7 years, 4 months
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Kryptic]
#20258036 - 07/11/14 01:26 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
|
Kryptic
Harvester of Sorrow



Registered: 05/21/10
Posts: 90
Loc: lost
Last seen: 7 years, 8 months
|
|
Seriously is it possible for them to go fro 30 or so % to 80-90% in 48 hrs? Sorry if thats a real noob question..lol
Edited by Kryptic (07/11/14 01:29 PM)
|
PussyFart
Retired Cultivation Extrodinaire



Registered: 04/08/12
Posts: 22,502
Loc: Orbiting Earth
Last seen: 7 months, 28 days
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Kryptic]
#20258045 - 07/11/14 01:30 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
LOL.....Give it another 24 hours and see if you still think it's at 90%.
--------------------
THIS HOBBY IS NOT FOR THE IMPATIENT! PLEASE BE PATIENT, DON'T BE A PATIENT!
A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD,
SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
*** *** AFGHAN KUSH GROW LOG *** ***
|
Kryptic
Harvester of Sorrow



Registered: 05/21/10
Posts: 90
Loc: lost
Last seen: 7 years, 8 months
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: PussyFart]
#20258079 - 07/11/14 01:44 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Yeah, i didn't even really look at them yet and I love to exaggerate. The jar I looked at was a HUGE difference.
|
TheEaglesGift
The Nagual


Registered: 04/10/11
Posts: 10,554
Loc: Ixtlan, Mexico
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Kryptic]
#20258188 - 07/11/14 02:14 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
If the myc recovered quickly, which it usually does, then yes visually it would seem like a huge growth explosion.
If it's your first time shaking a grain jar, it's very exciting to see the change.
|
Dilated
KB Cubensis Fanaticus



Registered: 03/28/14
Posts: 2,347
Loc: The Ether
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Edmunter]
#20258416 - 07/11/14 03:21 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Sockadin said: Every time apprentice posts something I have to read it in master shakes voice.
Haha I do the same thing.. Love itQuote:
Edmunter said: You are too serious for me brother with your 'OMG I dont believe you people' vibes........ Chill out and spread some positiveness man. I mean you dissed 4 people who give the best advice on this forum.
I just felt like people were giving him bits and pieces of information. I never meant to diss anyone or offend them, if I did I apologize. Guess I was feeling froggy yesterday. As of yesterday this dude didn't even wanna shake his jars even after getting some info from peeps. Master shake that shit!
|
HigglePig
Ageless Stranger


Registered: 06/05/14
Posts: 123
Last seen: 10 years, 3 months
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Dilated]
#20258441 - 07/11/14 03:27 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Breaking up grain causes massive gain Distributing myc is very nice
-------------------- Tangential to my main perpendicular vertices.
|
Edmunter
Mr



Registered: 05/01/13
Posts: 5,699
Last seen: 3 months, 7 days
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Dilated]
#20258476 - 07/11/14 03:37 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Dilated said:
Quote:
Sockadin said: Every time apprentice posts something I have to read it in master shakes voice.
Haha I do the same thing.. Love itQuote:
Edmunter said: You are too serious for me brother with your 'OMG I dont believe you people' vibes........ Chill out and spread some positiveness man. I mean you dissed 4 people who give the best advice on this forum.
I just felt like people were giving him bits and pieces of information. I never meant to diss anyone or offend them, if I did I apologize. Guess I was feeling froggy yesterday. As of yesterday this dude didn't even wanna shake his jars even after getting some info from peeps. Master shake that shit!
|
TheApprentice
back at it



Registered: 09/25/11
Posts: 4,727
Last seen: 3 years, 1 month
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Sockadin]
#20258743 - 07/11/14 04:57 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Sockadin said: Every time apprentice posts something I have to read it in master shakes voice.
for sure!!!
--------------------
RR Videos -Best $9 Ever Spent *
No Pour AGAR Tek * Easy COIR Trays! *
Pink Oysters on Newspaper TEK
"Yeah? Well, DRACULA called... and he said he's coming over tonight, and I said OK!"
|
Kryptic
Harvester of Sorrow



Registered: 05/21/10
Posts: 90
Loc: lost
Last seen: 7 years, 8 months
|
|
These are the jars i posted at the beginning of this thread, 48 hours after shake, I may have some contamination, the jar on the left has a spot that looks slightly blueish maybe greenish. If I let it go a day or two and it's Trich the green would get much deeper in color right?
|
SpitballJedi
Ancient Astronaut



Registered: 10/13/12
Posts: 8,598
Loc: Nibiru
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Kryptic]
#20261901 - 07/12/14 08:20 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
It's hard for me t tell from pics sometimes, but yeah, the one on the left may be contaminated. The uneven colonization, the spot with the different color and texture, and it looks like yellow around it.
-------------------- The Basics
A little civility goes a long way
The Noob Forum
The Hammock Hangers' Forum
|
TheEaglesGift
The Nagual


Registered: 04/10/11
Posts: 10,554
Loc: Ixtlan, Mexico
|
|
They look fine to me, but you are there in person. If they're contaminated it would likely become more prevalent in a day or two.
|
Kryptic
Harvester of Sorrow



Registered: 05/21/10
Posts: 90
Loc: lost
Last seen: 7 years, 8 months
|
|
Quote:
TheEaglesGift said: If they're contaminated it would likely become more prevalent in a day or two.
This is what I thought, lucky for me, I don't have too much experience w/ trich..yet (knock on wood). I have had a nasty bacillus infection before lost 10 jars. I think these guys are pretty close to birthing, they all look like the pic above, 1 of them is completely colonized.
|
TheEaglesGift
The Nagual


Registered: 04/10/11
Posts: 10,554
Loc: Ixtlan, Mexico
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Kryptic]
#20263756 - 07/12/14 05:25 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
The jars infected with bacteria, were they grain or brf? If they were grain, how long and at what psi did you pressure cook for?
|
Kryptic
Harvester of Sorrow



Registered: 05/21/10
Posts: 90
Loc: lost
Last seen: 7 years, 8 months
|
|
Quote:
TheEaglesGift said: The jars infected with bacteria, were they grain or brf? If they were grain, how long and at what psi did you pressure cook for?
Rye berry 15psi 90min
Edited by Kryptic (07/12/14 05:35 PM)
|
TheEaglesGift
The Nagual


Registered: 04/10/11
Posts: 10,554
Loc: Ixtlan, Mexico
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Kryptic]
#20263823 - 07/12/14 05:44 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
I had some bacteria issues when I first started out in my wbs. Someone suggested I up my PC times to 120 minutes and I'll be damned if my bacterial issues didn't go away.
Granted, if your inoculation technique or your syringe is contaminated, it won't matter how long you pressure cook for.
|
Kryptic
Harvester of Sorrow



Registered: 05/21/10
Posts: 90
Loc: lost
Last seen: 7 years, 8 months
|
|
Was it my bacillus comment that made you go from "looks pretty good" to "infected with bacteria"? The reason I ask is because the time lost 10 quart jars was actually an off-site grow for me. They were g2g's that I transferred and kept at a friends house, jars were made and cooked there as well. Haven't had many issues at my place, cases and cakes turning after a couple flushes. I innoc in an SAB and use an alcohol flame in between jars. I've set that jar to the side it looks even funnier today, the others seem to be doing well.
Edited by Kryptic (07/12/14 05:57 PM)
|
TheEaglesGift
The Nagual


Registered: 04/10/11
Posts: 10,554
Loc: Ixtlan, Mexico
|
Re: To shake or not?? [Re: Kryptic]
#20263934 - 07/12/14 06:16 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
|
|
You misunderstood me, sorry. When I said ," The jars infected with bacteria, were they grain or brf?" , I was referring to the previous 10 jars you lost to bacteria, and not the jars that are pictured in this thread.
|
Kryptic
Harvester of Sorrow



Registered: 05/21/10
Posts: 90
Loc: lost
Last seen: 7 years, 8 months
|
|
Quote:
TheEaglesGift said: You misunderstood me, sorry. When I said ," The jars infected with bacteria, were they grain or brf?" , I was referring to the previous 10 jars you lost to bacteria, and not the jars that are pictured in this thread.
Got ya, yeah, those were my first attempt at g2g, botched it some how.
|
|