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Anglerfish
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Norwegian P. semilanceata - my earliest find so far
#20249151 - 07/09/14 05:43 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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So I was walking in the woods - a mix of fir, birch, alder and pine. A trail used as a ski track during the winter (whenever there is snow, that is). The mushrooms I find in this area are usually the "typical" woodland species - Entoloma, Russula, Lactarius, Cortinarius etc.
But then suddenly, on the side of the trail, I saw this:

The habitat:
This grew a few meters away, no idea. Seems to have purplish brown spores too:
Date proof (local newspaper):
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Re: Norwegian P. semilanceata - my earliest find so far [Re: Anglerfish]
#20249164 - 07/09/14 05:46 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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That other mushroom is pretty interesting. Do you think it could be more P. semilanceata?
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Anglerfish
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Re: Norwegian P. semilanceata - my earliest find so far [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#20249184 - 07/09/14 05:52 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said: That other mushroom is pretty interesting. Do you think it could be more P. semilanceata?
I'm not sure what it is. It was not in the best shape, yet not dried out like the semilanceata. The cap was about 4 centimeters wide, stem fragile/hollow. Psathyrella is possible I guess. I collected it.
In any case there was both footprints and dung of sheep in the area, however no animals present at the moment.
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Re: Norwegian P. semilanceata - my earliest find so far [Re: Anglerfish]
#20249552 - 07/09/14 06:58 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nice one Angler
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Re: Norwegian P. semilanceata - my earliest find so far [Re: Anglerfish]
#20249640 - 07/09/14 07:09 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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My guess is that it is a liberty cap also, would be cool to see the microscopic features.
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Anglerfish
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Re: Norwegian P. semilanceata - my earliest find so far [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#20251286 - 07/10/14 02:37 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Microscopy would surely tell, yes. Not always easy to tell by macroscopic features when the size is so different from the "standard" - I get easily confused (or maybe I should say biased/prejudiced by habit). But by concentrating on the descriptive details I see it could be a Psilocybe.
A magnified shot of (what is left of) the gills show little lumps of purplish-dark-brown spores:
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Re: Norwegian P. semilanceata - my earliest find so far [Re: Anglerfish]
#20251379 - 07/10/14 03:55 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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It looks like an old thrashed P. semilanceata to me. Could the fragile stem be do to decomposition?
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Re: Norwegian P. semilanceata - my earliest find so far [Re: ambc]
#20251437 - 07/10/14 04:32 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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ambc said: It looks like an old thrashed P. semilanceata to me. Could the fragile stem be do to decomposition?
Perhaps. It was also a bit waterlogged. Often when I find big specimens they tend to have hollow and somewhat fragile stems like this one had. My bad I didn't check for a pellicle when it was still wet...
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Re: Norwegian P. semilanceata - my earliest find so far [Re: Anglerfish]
#20252096 - 07/10/14 09:25 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Holy crap Angler!! Didn't you make your earliest find last year too in the summer? But this is friggiin early July!! that is pretty epic buddy!!
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Re: Norwegian P. semilanceata - my earliest find so far [Re: ambc]
#20252160 - 07/10/14 09:50 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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ambc said: It looks like an old thrashed P. semilanceata to me.
Sweet find Angler!!!
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Re: Norwegian P. semilanceata - my earliest find so far [Re: Joust]
#20252213 - 07/10/14 10:08 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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psylosymonreturns said: Holy crap Angler!! Didn't you make your earliest find last year too in the summer? But this is friggiin early July!! that is pretty epic buddy!!
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ambc said: It looks like an old thrashed P. semilanceata to me.
Sweet find Angler!!!

Thanks guys!
I've got one spot usually delivering the first fruits around late July, which is in a residential area, short grass lawn style habitat.
Never found them this early, although I know of at least two early-July finds in Norway from a couple of years back.
The place I found these yesterday is not what I'd consider a habitat for semilanceata. The sheep that left tracks and dung are probably stray animals from the other side of the mountain, where they graze in the summer.
Regarding the larger, odd one out, I'm still not convinced it is a Psilocybe. We'll see...
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Re: Norwegian P. semilanceata - my earliest find so far [Re: Anglerfish]
#20253473 - 07/10/14 02:36 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Great find and great pictures, Anglerfish! I've been waiting for the lib threads, may the season be a good one
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Re: Norwegian P. semilanceata - my earliest find so far [Re: woaronun]
#20253989 - 07/10/14 04:25 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes, the forest libs has returned! Kjempeflott! 
My theory: This habitat is a bit colder and damper than the pastures/big open lawns, which make this perfect for an early flush.
And it looks like you have some Deschampsia cespitosathere as well (hard to tell, but I think I see at least one)... Check the grass species in the future, I think you also will notice that some species can be sorted out from the scan and some are more probable to have libs, therefore worth looking at more carefully. I am doing this when I'm riding my bicycle in the forest now days, due to my unexpected discovery from last year: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18763551/page/2
I hope you find some more
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Re: Norwegian P. semilanceata - my earliest find so far [Re: knarkkorven]
#20254131 - 07/10/14 04:58 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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knarkkorven said: My theory: This habitat is a bit colder and damper than the pastures/big open lawns, which make this perfect for an early flush.
My theory too. The spot is in a small vale at about 450 meters altitude between some low hills and a lake and a larger hill of about 600 meters.
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And it looks like you have some Deschampsia cespitosathere as well (hard to tell, but I think I see at least one)... Check the grass species in the future, I think you also will notice that some species can be sorted out from the scan and some are more probable to have libs, therefore worth looking at more carefully. I am doing this when I'm riding my bicycle in the forest now days, due to my unexpected discovery from last year: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18763551/page/2
I also recognized this - although the area containing this grass was very small. In one of the specimens there was also featured the typical moss attached to the stem base (I forget the name of the moss but you know which one).
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I hope you find some more 
Me too. I frequent this area a lot, both for just walking but also because it harbours a good variety of mushrooms. Now also liberty caps! I'm quite astonished.
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Re: Norwegian P. semilanceata - my earliest find so far [Re: Anglerfish]
#20254263 - 07/10/14 05:28 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Right on!! And even better, its a normal spot of yours!!
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Re: Norwegian P. semilanceata - my earliest find so far [Re: Anglerfish]
#20254449 - 07/10/14 06:14 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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I also recognized this - although the area containing this grass was very small. In one of the specimens there was also featured the typical moss attached to the stem base (I forget the name of the moss but you know which one).
Rhytidiadelphus squarrosus
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