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Squandary
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Albino (?) Ecuador first grow (questions inside pls help o god)
#20247477 - 07/09/14 12:16 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Cubensis Ecuador. Caps and stems look completely normal and healthy except right where they attach to the cakes the stems are very skinny, not even half the diameter of the rest of the stem. I can provide pics if need be
Anyway, is this a bad/abnormal thing?
Edited by Squandary (07/13/14 09:22 AM)
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Re: Stems very thin near cake, normal otherwise [Re: Squandary]
#20247530 - 07/09/14 12:29 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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are there brown spots on the stem as well? Kinda need a pic, yeah..
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Re: Stems very thin near cake, normal otherwise [Re: spacechildo]
#20247585 - 07/09/14 12:40 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: are there brown spots on the stem as well? Kinda need a pic, yeah..
will post them in a minute
no brown spots
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Re: Stems very thin near cake, normal otherwise [Re: Squandary]
#20247622 - 07/09/14 12:51 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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particularly on the third you can see it. it's actually even thinner nearer the cake
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Re: Stems very thin near cake, normal otherwise [Re: Squandary]
#20247630 - 07/09/14 12:53 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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What are they sitting in
The stems don't look too bad to me but maybe someone else knows something
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Re: Stems very thin near cake, normal otherwise [Re: Mdahmer]
#20247633 - 07/09/14 12:53 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Moist verm
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Re: Stems very thin near cake, normal otherwise [Re: Squandary]
#20247659 - 07/09/14 12:58 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Verm doesn't really work well for humidifying a FC...the cakes will be trying to colonize it as well so they will be putting energy into that instead of just growing mushrooms
Edited by Mdahmer (07/09/14 12:58 PM)
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Re: Stems very thin near cake, normal otherwise [Re: Mdahmer]
#20247771 - 07/09/14 01:25 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not for humidity, for water reservoir. I mist regularly and have perlite in the larger tub. I figured if rolling and casing help with yields then a large bottom casing layer should do some good.
Anyone know anything about the thin stems?
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Re: Stems very thin near cake, normal otherwise [Re: Mdahmer]
#20247776 - 07/09/14 01:27 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Squandary said:
Anyone know anything about the thin stems?
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Mdahmer said: Verm doesn't really work well for humidifying a FC...the cakes will be trying to colonize it as well so they will be putting energy into that instead of just growing mushrooms
get rid of the verm and it's problem solved
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Re: Stems very thin near cake, normal otherwise [Re: cronicr]
#20247782 - 07/09/14 01:28 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I guess I'll do that since you're far more experienced than I, but why is the concept wrong? Double end casing is recommended for cakes, so why would this be a bad idea?
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Re: Stems very thin near cake, normal otherwise [Re: Squandary]
#20247801 - 07/09/14 01:33 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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because it needs to know it has all the food available to it to fruit properly, wehn you put it on top of more food it wants to eat it, sit it on some foil and get soem perlite and to hydrate cakes just mist as needed
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Re: Stems very thin near cake, normal otherwise [Re: Squandary]
#20247803 - 07/09/14 01:34 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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When you roll or double end case it's a finite amount and the mycelium colonizes the little bits that it will then it's done, the verm dries out with the cake. You have them on wet verm constantly so they are probably always trying to do something with it. That's how I've always looked at it at least.
They can get too much water too, you want the cakes to kinda dry out a little in between mistings, just for like an hr or so
Edited by Mdahmer (07/09/14 01:35 PM)
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Re: Stems very thin near cake, normal otherwise [Re: Mdahmer]
#20247818 - 07/09/14 01:38 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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they do dry out, at least to my eye, and i use a little USB fan to fan them pretty strongly for about a minute after each misting
and I thought verm was non-nutritional, or just had some trace minerals?
well, anyway. can i just leave the verm there and put some foil beneath the cakes? i'd rather not clean it all out at the moment if i don't have to
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Re: Stems very thin near cake, normal otherwise [Re: Squandary]
#20247822 - 07/09/14 01:39 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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but you ......nevermind
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Re: Stems very thin near cake, normal otherwise [Re: cronicr]
#20247827 - 07/09/14 01:41 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
cronicr said: but you ......nevermind
What? you're making me nervous
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Re: Stems very thin near cake, normal otherwise [Re: Squandary]
#20247846 - 07/09/14 01:44 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Squandary said: and I thought verm was non-nutritional, or just had some trace minerals?
If it has trace minerals, then it is not non nutritious....
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Re: Stems very thin near cake, normal otherwise [Re: PussyFart]
#20247863 - 07/09/14 01:47 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ah, I assumed there wasn't enough for any real nutritional value but I guess that's incorrect
So another question just came to mind... If it is nutritional, then wouldn't it be fine to let the cakes colonize it a bit for extra nutes -> larger shrooms or more flushes? Or should I just do what works and lay some foil down?
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Re: Stems very thin near cake, normal otherwise [Re: Squandary]
#20247922 - 07/09/14 02:00 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well if you want that you should have spawned them to bulk.
You want them to fruit now, but they are wasting energy trying to colonize the verm.
Get them off the verm, and get the verm out of there and replace it with perlite.
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Re: Stems very thin near cake, normal otherwise [Re: Squandary]
#20248049 - 07/09/14 02:21 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Squandary said:
Quote:
cronicr said: but you ......nevermind
What? you're making me nervous
lol my bad no worries, pussyfart is right on the money
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Re: Stems very thin near cake, normal otherwise [Re: cronicr]
#20248126 - 07/09/14 02:33 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Alright, I'll do that. Thanks to both of you.
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Re: Stems very thin near cake, normal otherwise [Re: Squandary]
#20252237 - 07/10/14 10:13 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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You were right on the money cronic. The bottom of the stems are already fattening up and getting some fuzzy feet as well. That last pic is the first fruited shroom I picked, I'm excited to see a real flush in a few days though
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Re: Stems very thin near cake, normal otherwise [Re: Squandary]
#20252387 - 07/10/14 10:43 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think what Turd Farmer was about to mention is how you agreed with him due to his experience and then said you were neglecting his advice. Lol.
Glad to see that following the advice has helped though. 
Those mushies are super white. They almost look albini to me. Kewl.
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Edited by BLINKfan420 (07/10/14 10:47 AM)
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Re: Stems very thin near cake, normal otherwise [Re: BLINKfan420]
#20252396 - 07/10/14 10:45 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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BLINKfan420 said: I think what Turd Farmer was about to mention is how you agreed with him due to his experience and then immediately strayed away from his tip. So many people come with questions only to ignore the answers.
I know once you've started something one way or have dedicated yourself to it you want to follow it through. But these people have been there and done it so they're trying to save you the trouble and frustration.
Sorry if this comes across the wrong way
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yeah, I realized that after dahmer made his last post. And I did end up following his advice
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Re: Stems very thin near cake, normal otherwise [Re: Squandary]
#20252428 - 07/10/14 10:50 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ya I just edited it after I saw you followed his tips. Being somewhat still a noob to this, I remember when I thought I could do better than the Teks. But the Teks are always spot on. Which is why we repeat them exactly to the "T". No pun intended.
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Re: Stems very thin near cake, normal otherwise [Re: BLINKfan420]
#20252443 - 07/10/14 10:53 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Indeed. Maybe in a few years when I have a few dozen grows under my belt I'll start messing with the teks.
And yes, that is odd... I was not told that the spores were albinos but it does seem that way. I prefer the look of non-albinos but shrooms are shrooms haha
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Re: Stems very thin near cake, normal otherwise [Re: Squandary]
#20260749 - 07/12/14 12:01 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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first flush of three cakes. picked some yesterday and some today, the older ones are getting pretty serious bluing, is this over oxidation? loss of potency? I've been fan drying them and put them in with some damp rid for a few hours as well.
given that many of those in the last pic had been drying for a while, i think i'll get around 10g cracker dry from this first flush
Edited by Squandary (07/12/14 12:02 AM)
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Re: Stems very thin near cake, normal otherwise [Re: Squandary]
#20266030 - 07/13/14 09:01 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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first flush off one cake (the one on the left in the above post) 50g wet


i bagged 5g cracker dry last night and have about an eighth cracker dry left from the original harvest, plus the four not so dry ones (CIRCLED IN BLACK)

the three cakes that flushed originally i dunked for 24h and put back in the sgfc last night
question: my SGFC is in a closet due to reasons, i fan and mist multiple times a day but the shrooms still get fuzzy feet of course, is there any way to get better FAE without moving it out of the closet? a small USB fan running in there potentially? i could either have it blow air out the bottom of the door or blow air through the sgfc
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