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Blue - Bruising or Mold?
    #20242635 - 07/08/14 02:59 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I can't really tell, as I'm quite new to this, but I have two cakes here that need better eyes to identify what's going on. I have one I suspect is bruising because the blue is where I picked off of, but the other one looks more suspicious to me. I don't remember if I pulled anything off that area, but I know I've put my finger on them a few times to help pull of some mushrooms. Thanks.




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Re: Blue - Bruising or Mold? [Re: CrystalDream]
    #20242869 - 07/08/14 03:46 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

1) What are you fruiting in? It doesn't appear to be a SGFC or any set up that is providing nearly enough FAE(fresh air exchange).

2) Get your cakes directly off the perlite. Squares of tinfoil, cut to the approximate size of your cakes, do the job well.

3) Pick any rotting/aborted pins so they don't contaminate. I see a a few rotting fruits on the far cake.

4) I have no idea if that is contaminated, because it is not a healthy looking cake to begin with.

5) What is that magenta color all over your cake? Is it spores?

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Re: Blue - Bruising or Mold? [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #20243150 - 07/08/14 04:38 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Get your hands on a powerdrill and make it a sgfc already

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Re: Blue - Bruising or Mold? [Re: Mushiez]
    #20243227 - 07/08/14 04:49 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Get your hands on a powerdrill and make it a sgfc already




Looks like it could be a glass aquarium?

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Re: Blue - Bruising or Mold? [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #20243409 - 07/08/14 05:24 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

1. I have a tub with a cover made of plastic wrap, but there are holes for air to get in. I also open it everyday to mist it. I haven't heard of SGFC, but I'll look into that I guess.

2. Got it. Does the perlite mess with the cake?

3. Got it!

4. Why doesn't it look healthy? The only thing to me that looks concerning is the blue stuff.

5. Yes all the black/brown are spores. The magenta is just from the camera lighting.

Thanks for the help, still learning here. x___x

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Re: Blue - Bruising or Mold? [Re: CrystalDream]
    #20243548 - 07/08/14 05:48 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Looks a little too pale to be bruising. How log has it been there? Your fruits are unhealthy because of your chamber set up.


http://www.mushroomvideos.com/

Watch BRF Tek 1-4. Part 3 goes over how to build a sgfc. Far more beneficial than your current tank.


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Re: Blue - Bruising or Mold? [Re: ShroomPuncher]
    #20243601 - 07/08/14 05:55 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I'm actually not too sure, maybe a week or under?
I was out of town for a few days (twice) so I didn't get to air/mist it. Would that have affected it much?

I just looked up the tank, looks easy enough to do. I remember seeing something like that but modified it because I didn't have a drill.

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Re: Blue - Bruising or Mold? [Re: CrystalDream]
    #20244681 - 07/08/14 08:58 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

OP aquariums don't work because they still maintain stale air, even if the plastic wrap on top is riddled with holes. The holes really do have to be every where for it work..

Really should be SGFC if you expect anything decent- a plastic tub with 1/4" holes drilled every two inches in a grid pattern on all 5 sides

or you can handfan it 15 - 20 times each and every day of fruiting, but most people don't want to do that

If you have no holes on all sides, and you don't hand fan, it is certain failure

Aquariums do not get yield but SGFCs do

If you have no drill, light a candle and get a hot metal poker (nail, screwdriver, icepick, etc) going put the time in and you will be well rewarded with thick mushrooms

then again you are the one in control of their fruiting environment, it's all up to you

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Re: Blue - Bruising or Mold? [Re: Mushiez]
    #20244795 - 07/08/14 09:20 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah no, I'm heading out to the store tomorrow to get a tub and a drill.

So is there no telling what the blue stuff is? Should I just start over with the new tub? The cakes have been fruiting for a while before there was any blue. I thought once you're at that stage it's pretty hard to get contaminated.

Thanks for the info.

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Re: Blue - Bruising or Mold? [Re: CrystalDream]
    #20244828 - 07/08/14 09:27 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Well the blue is exclusively at the divot from where you picked it, and it looks like bruising anyway. If it was mold it would spread beyond those margins

second, there's some purplish color, but I think that's from the spore drop of that fruit you picked

you'll know if it is bruising if the blue fades to white after 2-3 days.


One easy tech that Kizzle advocates, is to take a paper clip, and scrape the area(s) of concern and give it a smell. If it's mycelia it will smell like mushrooms, and if it's mold it will smell earthy/moldy

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Re: Blue - Bruising or Mold? [Re: Mushiez]
    #20244998 - 07/08/14 10:02 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Shotgun fruiting chamber. 1/4 inch holes, spaced 2 inches apart in a grid, on all 6 sides. Elevate your sgfc for airflow on the bottom side.

Next time dunk your cakes for 24 hours prior to fruiting, then roll in verm.

The perlite won't necessarily hurt the cakes, but the cakes can become waterlogged from sitting directly on the damn perlite. That's why you'd want to have a barrier between the cake and the perlite, like a piece of tinfoil or a jar lid. I don't like using jar lids because they will rust quicker.

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Re: Blue - Bruising or Mold? [Re: TheEaglesGift]
    #20247457 - 07/09/14 12:12 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks guys! I'm gonna make tub today. ^-^
And I just read about dunking and rolling last night.
I heard you should also dunk in between harvests.

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Re: Blue - Bruising or Mold? [Re: CrystalDream]
    #20247469 - 07/09/14 12:14 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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CrystalDream said:
I can't really tell, as I'm quite new to this, but I have two cakes here that need better eyes to identify what's going on. I have one I suspect is bruising because the blue is where I picked off of, but the other one looks more suspicious to me. I don't remember if I pulled anything off that area, but I know I've put my finger on them a few times to help pull of some mushrooms. Thanks.








the first cake looks like its got lipstick mold on it


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Re: Blue - Bruising or Mold? [Re: CrystalDream]
    #20249890 - 07/09/14 07:48 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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CrystalDream said:
Thanks guys! I'm gonna make tub today. ^-^
And I just read about dunking and rolling last night.
I heard you should also dunk in between harvests.




Yes, a 24 hour dunk between harvest is good. A cake can only put out big fruits when it is hydrated. Instead of dunking a cake after the 1st flush, you can place it in a saucer of water as well(24 hours or so), to rehydrate it.

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