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Can one birth PF Tek BRF cakes and then spawn to bulk a few days later
    #20244236 - 07/08/14 07:35 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Have done  some cakes in the past, and have sheep manure and other ingredients to try first bulk spawn on a small level with take out trays.  Long story short: going out of town for a few days for a shoot, back in five or so.  Have a bunch of BRF cakes in SGFC that wife can watch while away, but I have two unbirthed jars of mexicube, one of penis envy, and one of Orissa India that I want to try small level bulk spawn for my first timel  These have been colonized for weeks.  One of the Orissa jars developed a touch of green at the top verm that may have been trich or blue bruising, not sure which.  Birthed that one, green seemed to be only in tip verm layer, so cased and put in SGFC.  Now one of my other Orissa's got the evil green, birthed and cut a chunk away, but will chuck or keep a close eye on, will NOT bulk spawn that one.  My question: as these jars have been sitting for weeks and suddenly two got some green, I'm a little nervous about waiting for another six or seven days to try my mini bulk venture.  Would it be wise to birth these tomorrow morn, put them in the SGFC with the others (some pinning some not), and then when I get back five days later bulk spawn.  Or fridge them for the five or six days?  Or take a chance?  I was hoping to spawn them in the trays before I split town, but not certain if I'll have the time.
PS: yeah, I know I should do grains, and have a PC, but this is my third grow.  First time was a surprising success, second time mediocre, this third time too new to tell, did get one super flush off one of my cakes and two others pinning, but the other cakes are a bit slow. One Orissa cake is into close to a month in SGFC, I think that one is a dud.  The cakes have gone into the SGFC at different times as they have all finished at different times.

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Re: Can one birth PF Tek BRF cakes and then spawn to bulk a few days later [Re: The Grump]
    #20244305 - 07/08/14 07:48 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Umm... pics definitly help but ill take a shot at it anyways.

When taking pf cakes and spawning to bulk with them, you want to spawn to bulk just as it is reaching 100% colonization. Not consolidation.
You would not want to wait after birthing the cakes, their vigor would have started going to fruiting instead of reaching nutrients and spreading myc.

Toss the cakes you cut chunks out of. The contamination mycelium is probably already raced around the cake and its currently a battle royale in their.
To prevent further sporulation from the contaminant, remove it now.

As for the cake been there a month, pick it up and feel how heavy it is. If it is kinda light, dunk it for a day before camping, if its heavy, just keep misting. Pins will come.

If the cakes you want to spawn to bulk are at 100% or goign to be within 24 hours, spawn them in the morning. If not, fridge them so you dont miss your mark too bad.
How colonized are they? 90%? 40%

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Re: Can one birth PF Tek BRF cakes and then spawn to bulk a few days later [Re: The Grump]
    #20244343 - 07/08/14 07:53 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

If they're ready to birth I think you could spawn right now. If you are going to grow from the cakes then you want to let them consolidate but I think its ok to use them as spawn right away.

At least that's how it works with grains, you can spawn as soon as they're colonized.If you spawn now your bulk will be pretty colonized by the time you get back in a week


Hah we posted almost the same info at the same time


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Re: Can one birth PF Tek BRF cakes and then spawn to bulk a few days later [Re: mushpunx]
    #20244789 - 07/08/14 09:18 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

These cakes are way consolidated.  Been a few weeks, and cut open the one that I was tossing with some green, and it's solid myc all the way through.  Rock hard.  So what do you think?  Should I just birth them and fruit as cakes?  (In other words, I'm guessing from contents that I waited too long to spawn these to bulk sheep manure/verm/gypsum/kelp mix.  People say ya should spawn BEFORE full colonization, and these cakes are solid through and through).

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Re: Can one birth PF Tek BRF cakes and then spawn to bulk a few days later [Re: The Grump]
    #20244867 - 07/08/14 09:35 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I wouldn't spawn before full colonization.

Why did you let them consolidate so long? Usually people leave em for a week or so. You said weeks? Ive never spawned from BRF so I cant answer. Im just curious. They arent pinning in the jars?


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Re: Can one birth PF Tek BRF cakes and then spawn to bulk a few days later [Re: mushpunx]
    #20245009 - 07/08/14 10:04 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

They need to be fully colonized when you spawn with them, that means white inside and out

Consolidation just means letting the myc 'digest' some of the nutrients it's been eating...basically and is only used with Brf cakes because of their high nutrition but when your spawning you want them to still be in colonizing mode

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Re: Can one birth PF Tek BRF cakes and then spawn to bulk a few days later [Re: Mdahmer]
    #20246433 - 07/09/14 07:08 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Mdahmer said:
They need to be fully colonized when you spawn with them, that means white inside and out

Consolidation just means letting the myc 'digest' some of the nutrients it's been eating...basically and is only used with Brf cakes because of their high nutrition but when your spawning you want them to still be in colonizing mode



:whathesaid:

like I said earlier, if your cakes are at 100% as of today or within 24 hrs, spawn to bulk.
If its been consolidating (processing the food its covered) then it will be in fruit mode the second the conditions are right.

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