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Consciousness described by TGD theory
    #2024218 - 10/20/03 01:32 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Consciousness described by TGD theory [Re: trendal]
    #2024278 - 10/20/03 01:50 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Too much technical reading for 2am.  :nut:
I skimmed through it.. very interesting.. though I think I could explain consciousness in a much more straightforward manner, with significantly less, if any, technical jargon.. while lightly brushing the quantum mechanics involved. Give me about four paragraphs and I can sum it all up.

Maybe tommorow.. for now my consciousness needs to enter into the state of cogitation and relaxation as my subconscious takes over. Thanks for the link. Good evening and goodnight. 


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Re: Consciousness described by TGD theory [Re: Shroomism]
    #2027725 - 10/21/03 04:03 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

nice link, let me read it a few more times and i'll comment


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Re: Consciousness described by TGD theory [Re: automan]
    #2028651 - 10/21/03 02:22 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Heh, yeah it does take a couple readings before all the implications become apparent :smirk:

I'm on my 4th way through now.


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Re: Consciousness described by TGD theory [Re: trendal]
    #2028840 - 10/21/03 03:12 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Interesting, let me read it a few(100?) more times..... any dutch link  :tongue:


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Re: Consciousness described by TGD theory [Re: trendal]
    #2031600 - 10/22/03 06:28 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

phooo-wee!

I went over it for a quick peek, but no chance of that with this guy!
The writer of that article can likely clear out a bar by merely specifying how he likes his cocktail.

I propose the whole MENSA crew gets rounded up, put in a camp and gradually exposed to the smalltalk of truckdrivers, steelworkers and mc donalds employees to bridge their communication gap and meet in the middle. When you're above-average you got to spend some time to "dumb down" to a level that most people feel comfortable with. The man unwittingly restricts his audience to a very limited group and this does not help when you're selling an idea or want some input.

Your average Joe that earns his bucks as a manual collection assistant for a cattle insemination institute might ask the question that'll smack physics into the 21th century if only the thesis was put down into wordings he'd be capable of understanding.

There were a lot of moments when I had not the slightest clue what he was talking about. This was mostly due to him spewing a lot of lingo in areas I'm unfamiliar with, so I can't really comment on its content.

I'm kinda waiting for a laid-back Rastafari to drop in who shrugs his shoulders, rolls us a big fat blunt and casually says: "Look what the dude means is that there might be a network of tiny connections that basically ties all shit together. Remember that back in the day the hippies did like three of them Orange Sunshine microdots and disappeared into the woods for two days and came out all confused and muttering stuff like: "All is One!" and shit like that? Well it looks like science is getting a finger behind that idea and that they can finally bring the human into the equasion which is pretty cool because you can't unify shit if you leave the human out of it. Want a puff? Its the stickiest Jamaican Gold money can buy!"

Well ofcourse this aint it but there just has to be a way to boil all this down to something graspable that doesn't require knowledge of all sorts of scientific shorthand. If Shulgin presents his new invention and went on an on with talk like: "So I figured introduction of another chiral group, the sec-butyl on that 4-thiophenol would basically divide up the pharmacological effects allowing for optical resolution to differentiate the somatic from the psychotropic which means we can seperate the sphinctrous distension, nonsync-nystagmus, the scrotoconstrictive effects and the priapismic palpitations from the central psychotropic 5-HT2A effects, it also gets rid of the bruxism and the tendency towards coprophagia which is a good thing because Mike brought some freshcaught bass." it would be only natural to get retorted:
"Just say how many milligrams and we'll take the shite!"




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Re: Consciousness described by TGD theory [Re: Asante]
    #2031624 - 10/22/03 07:07 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

All I can say is LOL :smile:


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Re: Consciousness described by TGD theory [Re: Asante]
    #2031662 - 10/22/03 08:22 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

That needed to be said.
Nicely done!

:grin: :mushroom2:

P.S. My comments are not directed towards trendal, but the author of the article. I did scan it quickly, but it made my head hurt. That guy is gonna blow out the motherboard of his brain if he keeps that up!


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Re: Consciousness described by TGD theory [Re: Jellric]
    #2039625 - 10/24/03 03:23 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

i dont want this thread to die. i'm working on a laymans version of this for everyone. i disagree with a few aspects of it, but i like how he included the most important parts of previous theorys, while disreguarding the shakey aspects of them.i might post my entire laymans version at once....... or, since most people here hate to read more than 50 words at a time, i might just post as i finish it. :wink:

ps- one thing that i am kind of hesitant about is the fact that half of his referances are to his own previous works. i'd like to read those too.


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Re: Consciousness described by TGD theory [Re: automan]
    #2039681 - 10/24/03 03:36 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Yes he definately has some kind of science-world-of-his-own thing going on. A few of his diaries are on the site and he sounds extremely isolated from the rest of the science community.

I'd like to see a laymen's version! I was thinking of writing one of my own at first, but I got sidetracked :smirk:

One of the things I like about the theory is how consciousness is inevitable and in some ways required by the universe.


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Re: Consciousness described by TGD theory [Re: trendal]
    #2039688 - 10/24/03 03:39 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

trendal, you get 5 shrooms from me. i enjoy the hell out of your posts!


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