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trippinfloriduh
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Help with mono tub please.....
#20238377 - 07/07/14 05:52 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok, I am doing my first mono tub tonight.I'm using Damion5050's Coir Tek. I currently have a brick of coir and 2 quarts of verm pasteurizing in a bucket.
This is my first mono tub grow and the tub I am using has no holes drilled in it yet.
Would be ok to let the substrate colonize first and drill the holes when it is ready for fruiting conditions? Or does the tape allow for the CO2 to balance itself properly?
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you can but i'll tell ya first hand it's a pain in the ass aferward and can be messy, do it now it only takes a few minutes
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PussyFart
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Drill them now.....it's a big hassle to drill them with a substrate in there.
You could damage the substrate, you could get plastic shavings on the substrate, etc.
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SpitballJedi
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The only issue I can think of is:
When you start drilling the holes, you will like;y push the substrate around and loosen it from the sides. This will increase the chance of side pins.
The GE happens due to the imperfect lid.
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trippinfloriduh
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: cronicr]
#20238464 - 07/07/14 06:09 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks everybody for the quick replies! I should of mentioned I'm using 5 quart jars of spawn that are not quite full not quite full. So I'm not sure how far up to drill the holes. I just wasn't sure if It would goof things without the holes.
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PussyFart
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Nobody fills their grain jars to the max, there has to be room to shake them.
Drill them to where the bottom of the holes on the long sides is at about 4" from the bottom.
Then for the short sides, high as possible in the center.
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trippinfloriduh
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: PussyFart]
#20238508 - 07/07/14 06:19 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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OK PF.... done did deal. You didn't earn those badges for nothing. Thanks a million!
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wowimflabbergasted
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: PussyFart] 1
#20238512 - 07/07/14 06:19 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Here's one of my old tubs..don't know why I taped the bottom lol
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PussyFart
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I do.......because someone told you it stopped side pins from forming.....they were wrong lol.
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A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD,
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EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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azur
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: PussyFart]
#20238552 - 07/07/14 06:26 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I use syran wrap to wrap the tub, not around the lid though. Comes off easier than tape
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trippinfloriduh
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: azur]
#20238571 - 07/07/14 06:31 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Awesome!!!!! I was just getting ready to walk over to the dollar store and get duct tape! Not now thanks to you!
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: azur]
#20238573 - 07/07/14 06:31 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just spawned to my first mono tub yesterday and I wasn't exactly sure where my substrate level would be. So I'm going to cut out my holes with my bernzomatic mini torch with the hot knife attachment.
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azur
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: RocKerWasH]
#20238581 - 07/07/14 06:33 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yea man. The syran wrap is the way to go. It's much less messy too
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trippinfloriduh
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Thanks to all of you for your help! The Shroomery Rocks!
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Mou5e77
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Dude I wait till after 100 % colinization of sub then drill right above the sub with an 1 1\2 inch hole saw with a drill. I never damaged my sub or nothing. I have no clue what most are talking about. Really it's not brain surgery, there is no need to over complicate shit. It's easier that way and I've done tons of monos, my most recent one was a coir tek soon similar to yours and yielded a pound dry. In a 66 quart tub.
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azur
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: Mou5e77]
#20239618 - 07/07/14 09:40 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mou5e77, do you not reuse all those tubs? Or are you just a bullshitter?
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SpitballJedi
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: azur]
#20239622 - 07/07/14 09:42 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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LOL... I was thinkig that too. I see nothing but cakes in his signature
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azur
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: azur]
#20239627 - 07/07/14 09:42 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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And a pound dry in one tub? Damn you're good. Teach us. I only get 8 zips on the 1st flush and 3 or 4 on the 2nd. What's your secret bullshitter?
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Mou5e77
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: azur]
#20239657 - 07/07/14 09:52 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I admit it was my best out I'd say 20-25 monos.No super secret wally world cheap ass wbs 6 quarts lc innoced spawned to 1 brick, 2_quarts verm, some gypsum. Got it colonized in 8 days and it pinned immediatly. The only thing done different was I poured water over the sub after each flush(3) and soaked six hours then tipped the sub up on the side holding it in so it could drain. I usually mist a shitload but tried this and it seemed to work.
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azur
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: Mou5e77]
#20239673 - 07/07/14 09:56 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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So you bought 20 to 25 tubs at once? Or one after another? I'm confused.
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: azur]
#20239685 - 07/07/14 10:01 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just use painters tape over my holes, its easy to apply and peels off super easy.
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Mou5e77
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: Mou5e77]
#20239690 - 07/07/14 10:04 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mou5e77
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: Mou5e77]
#20239707 - 07/07/14 10:09 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nope been doing this since 96 I'm an old timer have shown friends and been through a couple tubs in my journey. Its sad that I came here to share experience and am getting bashed for no reason at all. I have nothing to prove I was only here to learn and share what I've learned. That's what I believed this forum was about,at least that's what was advertised by the contents. I guess Its best not to share or help, I guess that's my fault I was under the wrong impression.
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azur
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: Mou5e77]
#20239730 - 07/07/14 10:13 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Those pics aren't shit and don't answer my question. And there is no way you got a pound. You have 6 mushrooms on each dehydrator tray. Those trays have to be smashed full for 2 zips on them. 1 zip per tray if they are neatly packed. Each of your trays have 1/4 zip on em. Are you xmdka?
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azur
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: azur]
#20239735 - 07/07/14 10:15 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm not bashing you or trying to make you feel bad. Things just aren't adding up.
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: Mou5e77]
#20239751 - 07/07/14 10:20 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mou5e77 said: Nope been doing this since 96 I'm an old timer
28 days ago: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20102719
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Mou5e77 said: Hello everyone I've got plenty experience but none with grains just 10 plus years with pf Tek. So I'm going to grains and have 6 qt jars at 30% colonization. That's where I'm at. I have a 66 qt clear tub some coir bricks and know the rest of the Tek. But I just wanted some input on how to keep the Rh good and techniques on stuffing polyfill and using a liner to prevent side pinning and any other knowledge fellow shroomery members can share to help me get the most out of my time and materials. Just some tips guys would be greatly appreciated thanks.
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azur
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: spacechildo]
#20239757 - 07/07/14 10:21 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yo spacechildo. Good to see you!!
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PussyFart
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: spacechildo]
#20239766 - 07/07/14 10:23 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD,
SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: PussyFart]
#20239831 - 07/07/14 10:46 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: azur]
#20239847 - 07/07/14 10:50 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow I couldn't imagine ten years of pf tek, sounds like a punishment
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MudaFuka
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: Mou5e77]
#20239865 - 07/07/14 10:55 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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If that tub yielded a pound in one flush why did you only take pictures of 3 or 4 ounces. My guess is that's your first tub and it maybe yielded 7 ounces through 2 flushes.
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azur
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: MudaFuka]
#20239890 - 07/07/14 11:01 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think we chased him away. You mou5e. We're all here to have a good time and learn some things. We've got to be honest to do that though.
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: azur]
#20239958 - 07/07/14 11:17 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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wowimflabbergasted
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: PussyFart] 1
#20240030 - 07/07/14 11:34 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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PussyFart said: I do.......because someone told you it stopped side pins from forming.....they were wrong lol.
Ah yes you are correct...never taped again after that.
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MonkeyJesusFresco
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I was actually born with a half-pint mason jar in my hand...
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TheEaglesGift
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Well that guy got caught red handed LOL.
OP, when it comes time to drill your holes you should use a glass pressed on the inside of the tubs wall to catch any plastic shavings. It also give a counter pressure to your drill, so you don't fuck up your substrate too badly by mashing on the tub walls.
I drilled my first monotub this way because I couldn't figure out what my substrate depth would be exactly, and I was being a little ocd. Since I use the same recipe/ratios every tub this has worked well for me ever since. Once you know your substrate depth you can drill your other tubs accordingly. If you end up using a tub with different dimensions down the road, you can fill your old tub up with water to the holes, and you can just pour the water into your new tub and that will be your new tubs substrate depth(assuming you use the same recipe/ratios).
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MudaFuka
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for sure use something to protect your sub when it comes time to drill your holes. I drilled mine once after colonisation and I chewed up my sub pretty good.
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trippinfloriduh
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Re: Help with mono tub please..... [Re: shaymisco]
#20243903 - 07/08/14 06:35 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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That thought crossed my mind...I have plenty of that around!
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