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Re: The Non-existence of the Soul [Re: redgreenvines]
    #20212797 - 07/01/14 09:15 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Herding photons is way easier than herding cats, but not Schrödinger's cat.


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Re: The Non-existence of the Soul [Re: redgreenvines]
    #20213306 - 07/01/14 11:06 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

You didn't give any meaningful rebuttal of the paper.  I just want to know where the gaps in Mae's logic and reasoning are?  You basically claimed that sicne she didn't do any experiments herself the interpretation of other people's work is not valid.  Please give some critic because you don't see to have given any valid reason it is incorrect.

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that is a scholarly proposal but it is not science if there are no experiments, he is using some math and some concepts and people are just going with it like it is true
he could give you the ratio of sardine oil in my recycling bin and you would probably be impressed if it looked like proof of something you yearned for.

I see nothing really interesting in the text or formulae.

did you work out those expressions?

it is most likely a scholarly mockery of stuffy scientific reviews. very playful.

then again the people might believe it - no matter how preposterous.




"Most likely a scholarly mockery of stuffy scientific reviews"

So did you actually read it all then?  Please tell me what is actually wrong with it, because that is no valid critic of the paper.


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"A human being is part of the whole, called by us 'Universe'; a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest -- a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness.

This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and affection for a few persons nearest us.

Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty.

Nobody is able to achieve this completely but striving for such achievement is, in itself, a part of the liberation and a foundation for inner security."

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Re: The Non-existence of the Soul [Re: Cannashroom]
    #20213976 - 07/02/14 04:42 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

OK, I will look at it again later - have to go to work.


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Re: The Non-existence of the Soul [Re: redgreenvines]
    #20214917 - 07/02/14 12:18 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

"we ended our difference of soul and brain
forever we are changed"




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Re: The Non-existence of the Soul [Re: Cannashroom]
    #20215883 - 07/02/14 05:24 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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Cannashroom said:
You didn't give any meaningful rebuttal of the paper.  I just want to know where the gaps in Mae's logic and reasoning are?  ...

"Most likely a scholarly mockery of stuffy scientific reviews"

So did you actually read it all then?  Please tell me what is actually wrong with it, because that is no valid critic of the paper.




give me the link again if you want me to look again, I just scanned back and did not find your link, but I did find you telling me to go back and read what you wrote earlier. (is that your way? you only write once? everyone else is a schmuck and has to re-read everything?)

this is not a good flow for me,
I like to go forward and not agonize after I have put some thought towards something.


so make it easy for me if you want another looking


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Re: The Non-existence of the Soul [Re: Diploid]
    #20217347 - 07/02/14 11:28 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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the principle of life, feeling, thought, and action in humans, regarded as a distinct entity separate from the body, and commonly held to be separable in existence from the body; the spiritual part of humans as distinct from the physical part.




Why should it be regarded as separate from the body? Because dictionary says so? I enjoy Thomas Moore, James Hillman and Robert Sardello, they write about soul and while most of their writing goes over my head, I'm pretty sure none of them write of the soul being separate from the body.

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Re: The Non-existence of the Soul [Re: usulpsychonaut]
    #20218521 - 07/03/14 08:27 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)



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"A human being is part of the whole, called by us 'Universe'; a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest -- a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness.

This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and affection for a few persons nearest us.

Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty.

Nobody is able to achieve this completely but striving for such achievement is, in itself, a part of the liberation and a foundation for inner security."

Albert Einstein

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Re: The Non-existence of the Soul [Re: Diploid]
    #20237265 - 07/07/14 01:51 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Has it been said ?
We need a definition of that something, before we can constitute the existence of this something....


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