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Shiro
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CO2 removal
#20235585 - 07/07/14 02:04 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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has anyone ever though of or attempted to remove CO2 from an aquarium with a vacuum. i am using a glass aquarium so i cant drill holes for airflow, so today i attached clear surgical tubing to my vacuum and made sure i created a tight seal for optimum suction. i then circled all six of my cakes with the hose suctioning air into it. made sure not to touch any of my cakes and then left the hose in the tank for another 2 minutes. my thinking is that it completely replaced all air inside the tank with fresh air from outside. is this bad for contams or any other reasons?? moisture? etc? this is my first run cultivating mushrooms (reishi), so i came to this amazing forum for experienced advice! i have accomplished colonizing 6 jars using the pf tek with a few of my own teks implemented. i have no contaminations thus far and just put my cakes into my aquarium yesterday. i am also using 2 different types of lighting, l.e.d and flourescent, 12 on 12 off
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Re: CO2 removal [Re: Shiro]
#20235625 - 07/07/14 02:14 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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i know a stubborn mule who still like to use his aquarium, he simply lays it on it's side and uses the plexy that would have been for the lights as a border which happens to be 5 inches in his,then just hangs seethrough plastic with slits in it and runs a fan in the room, i'll admit it works for him but i'll always argue (just build a sgfc!) it's stale air thats gonna be your enemy not co2 so don't try seal anything just find a way to get air moving through it,
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Re: CO2 removal [Re: cronicr]
#20235715 - 07/07/14 02:41 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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ok so real enemy = stale air, not so much CO2. however, this go around i dont think i can put the aquarium on its side, perlite and cakes are already nice and cozy. would putting a lid on it with holes and pointing a fan down at the lid with holes be a bad idea? im a freak about contams so thats my only worry! next time i will go with a plastic aquarium so i can drill holes, or turn my glass on its side!
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Re: CO2 removal [Re: Shiro]
#20235720 - 07/07/14 02:43 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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btw thanks for the quick response and advice!! im really looking to pick up this mushroom hobby.!!
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Re: CO2 removal [Re: Shiro]
#20235722 - 07/07/14 02:45 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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no need to worry about contams during fruiting and the best weapon to avoid them at that point is lots of fresh air!yep a ceiling fan and some slits or holes in the top is better then nuthing, post some pics if you can
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Re: CO2 removal [Re: cronicr]
#20235755 - 07/07/14 03:03 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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i will fix my cover and add a oscillating fan! as well as post pics 2morrow! i was also curious about supplementing my cakes with canned C02. my theory is that if i pack the chamber full of oxygen after removing all the C02 then the mushrooms will have a oxygen rich environment to thrive in. with less need for fanning/air replacement. keep in mind that normal air is only about 20% oxygen. the canned oxygen i would be filling my aquarium with is 98% . how much oxygen could these things REALLY consume. would this canned O2 still have a problem with becoming stale?
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Re: CO2 removal [Re: Shiro]
#20236080 - 07/07/14 07:34 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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cubensi farmer said: after removing all the C02
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OK! so i did my own research and explored the sight a little bit deeper. i now see my O2 supplement "idea" was just about as dumb a question as they get! the mushies dont need any "extra" oxygen, they just need fresh, circulating air. with not too much CO2 build up. so my cakes are cased and starting to pin, i have about 6 small shrooms growing out of the cakes. is it too late to move them to a plastic aquarium with holes and a better setup for FAE? any objections to moving the cakes at their infant stage of fruiting?? thanks for the help fellow farmers!!
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Re: CO2 removal [Re: Shiro]
#20236422 - 07/07/14 09:40 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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ehh... me personally, I wouldn't mess with em while they're pinning. You don't wanna cause aborts.
the fact that they're pinning means they're doing okay.
wanna throw up some pics?
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only 2 of the cakes are actually pinning, they are actually the 2 cakes that i waited till pinning took place in the jar to birth (and without the dunk tek). my other 4 cakes that i dunked and rolled are not yet pinning. but i just put them in yesterday! i have been vacuuming out the CO2 twice daily and this is my only method of CO2 removal. do you think that this is enough fresh air/good enough to keep the air from going stale/stagnant?
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Re: CO2 removal [Re: Shiro]
#20236439 - 07/07/14 09:46 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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i will throw up pics when i return home from my shopping trip
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Re: CO2 removal [Re: Shiro]
#20236510 - 07/07/14 10:15 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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cubensi farmer said: i have about 6 small shrooms growing out of the cakes. is it too late to move them to a plastic SGFC with holes and perlite which will be a better setup for FAE?
I would, it could only help Put them in a SGFC.
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Re: CO2 removal [Re: Shiro]
#20236511 - 07/07/14 10:15 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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cubensi farmer said: I have been vacuuming out the CO2 twice daily and this is my only method of CO2 removal.
No it's not.....what about constant FAE?
You are focusing way too much on this Co2 garbage.....just make sure they are getting constant fresh air and there will be no co2 to worry about.
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CO2 is a biproduct of Oxygen respiration. No or little fresh oxygen means no or little CO2. Thus you really need to get them fresh air before you start worrying about CO2 levels.
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Just curious, wouldn't vacuuming out the "co2" out of a tub with a vacuum create a vacuum from the outside which sucks in fresh air? Given there are holes on the sides and shit.
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DannyDGAF said: Just curious, wouldn't vacuuming out the "co2" out of a tub with a vacuum create a vacuum from the outside which sucks in fresh air? Given there are holes on the sides and shit.
Sure but its such a piss poor way to approach a problem which already has a perfectly good, cheap, easy alternative.
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DannyDGAF said: Just curious, wouldn't vacuuming out the "co2" out of a tub with a vacuum create a vacuum from the outside which sucks in fresh air? Given there are holes on the sides and shit.
Sure but its such a piss poor way to approach a problem which already has a perfectly good, cheap, easy alternative.
I know there's a shit ton of better ways to get FAE, naturally and artificially, it just came across my mind and wanted to make sure. Not like I'll be taking up this idea. Mono's are my route.
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I wonder, was he vacuuming co2 from the bottom of the tub?
Because there is more co2 towards the top.....just wondering lol.
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Yes, that'd suck in fresh air but ideally the airflow is constant not automated. I've used something like that on a GH because bigger setup. Glad that "CO2" is in quotes, because CO2 just disperses like any other gas.
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Re: CO2 removal [Re: Quexl]
#20236621 - 07/07/14 10:51 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Trust me I'm fully aware that "co2" has no use in cultivating shrooms. A proper built FC will take care of any if not all of the FAE. It was just a random thought that crossed my mind, then again I didn't sleep for the last 20 hours lol.
And Pussyfart, for no reason I would like to know the same lol. No one ever talks about "co2" removal or build up on here so it's a new and interesting topic even tho it has no use.
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