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What's Wrong?
    #2023535 - 10/19/03 09:14 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

About a week ago, a friend and I went and gathered some P. Cubensis we found growing in a cow pasture. I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that they were in fact P. Cubensis. They were put in the trunk for the car ride home, and then immediately after getting home, put inside a computer case with a large fan to dry them out. They were left drying for about 2 days, so they were definitely dried out thoroughly by the time I tried them.

The first time I prepared mushroom tea, I washed the mushrooms off very thoroughly, soaked them in water, and even used them squeezed them out like a sponge to remove excess water. I ate a mushroom, felt no effects 2 hours later, so then prepared more mushroom tea and had about 4 mushrooms using same method. I felt slightly different, better mood, and that's about it. Nothing significant. I have never tripped on mushrooms so I can't say I know what to look for.

The next day I tried the same thing without success, so yesterday, I tried fixing some mushroom tea WITHOUT soaking in water, etc. The original feeling I had from eating the first 4 mushrooms was there again, slightly stronger. Still nothing significant...

Today, I had 4 cups of mushroom tea, consisting of 2 mushrooms per cup. The feeling was definitely more heavily magnified, still nothing major though. I even smoked about a gram of mushrooms, and like an 1/8th of a leaf of salvia that I found...Everything seems a bit darker, except for anything bright or "shiny"... they seem to be a bit magnified as far as brightness and standing out goes. I'm definitely not seeing talking gnomes though.

What the hell am I doing wrong? What did I do that destroyed the potency of the mushrooms, or am I just going to have to eat 30 of them to feel anything significant?

Earlier I had some shpongle on, and was in a COMPLETELY relaxed mood, so I know I didn't "blow my buzz" I was looking forward to a great spiritual and enlightening experience today, but unfortunately I can't say I achieved this... Any advice? It would be GREATLY appreciated.


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Re: What's Wrong? [Re: adoseofparn0z]
    #2023552 - 10/19/03 09:19 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

might not have been cubenis...did you get a spore print? Smoking mushrooms does nothing. Heat destroys psilocybin. Also, you wont be seeing talking gnomes until you get to level 5 and beyond


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Re: What's Wrong? [Re: adoseofparn0z]
    #2023553 - 10/19/03 09:19 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

whats wrong is you tried to dose how many days in a row?

You took too low of a dose the first time. You should wait atleast 1 week(for tolerance), if not longer to try again.


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Re: What's Wrong? [Re: adoseofparn0z]
    #2023572 - 10/19/03 09:24 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

First off you took too low a dose. Second, you need at LEAST 5 days between trips to let tolerance drop (a week or more is better). Also, I would suggest just eating the shrooms....no way you are gonna lose potency that way.


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Re: What's Wrong? [Re: ChiefThunderbong]
    #2023621 - 10/19/03 09:42 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Wow this sucks, I only have two big mushies left (6 inches broad or so), and I'm prolly going to sell one. 15 bucks per cap isn't bad... Is that worth it?


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Re: What's Wrong? [Re: adoseofparn0z]
    #2023718 - 10/19/03 10:20 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

you cant be for reals? they go for like 4 grams dried for 20 bucks. If anybody bought a cap for 15 bucks then thats just sad.


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Re: What's Wrong? [Re: Osker246]
    #2023733 - 10/19/03 10:28 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

a foaf has a 4.2g dry single shroom. $15 for that isn't a bad deal!


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Re: What's Wrong? [Re: Osker246]
    #2023737 - 10/19/03 10:29 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

i would beat there ass for offering to sell that to me..


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Re: What's Wrong? [Re: adoseofparn0z]
    #2023841 - 10/19/03 11:08 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

heres something about your methods of dosing thats wrong that i am surprised no one else pointed out. when you dose mushrooms you go by weight and not by the number of mushrooms. the thing about trying to calculate a dose by the number of mushrooms consumed is that it doesn't actually gauge the amount of psilocybin that you put into your body. one mushroom may be as large as 7 grams dry or it may not even be a half of a gram. try eating 2 grams dry after you have let your tolerance go down for a week. if that doesn't get you to the desired effect then try 3 grams a week later. IMO cubensis are not very strong and I usually eat at least 5 grams dry to get decent visuals but i am in no way recommending that dose to someone that is inexperienced with tripping on mushrooms. and to answer your question if $15 was a good price for a cap cant be answered accurately without knowing how much the cap weighs dry. generally in the area that i from 3.5 grams of shrooms goes for $25. even saying how large the cap is length wise is a bad determination because the density of different mushrooms caps is far too variable even if their lengths are about the same.



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Re: What's Wrong? [Re: MilkVein]
    #2023842 - 10/19/03 11:08 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Well I have no idea how much to sell them for, but NO ONE sells shrooms here, so it's pretty much a monopoly...

So if I bought them it would suck ass, but if I sold them for 15, it would kick ass, correct?


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Re: What's Wrong? [Re: adoseofparn0z]
    #2023846 - 10/19/03 11:12 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

it depends on the amount that you are selling for $15. if you were selling a gram of mushrooms for 15 that would definitly suck ass. if you sold 3 grams for 15 that would kick ass.


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Re: What's Wrong? [Re: mushroomspoon]
    #2024046 - 10/20/03 12:19 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

They sound like they may not even be cubes. Mushroom toxins work differently in different people (what didn't make you sick may possibly kill someone else). Selling shrooms you picked is a bad idea if you aren't sure on the ID. It's even worse if you've felt no effects from the "shrooms".


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Re: What's Wrong? [Re: one800chiapet]
    #2024060 - 10/20/03 12:23 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I'll try to take the digital camera from work home tomorrow so I can take pictures of the ones I have left, as well as all the info necessary for an ID...It's okay that they're dried for pics correct?


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Re: What's Wrong? [Re: adoseofparn0z]
    #2024499 - 10/20/03 03:11 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that they were in fact P. Cubensis.




Really...

What color were the gills?
What kind of bruising did they exhibit and how fast?
What were your prints like?


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Re: What's Wrong? [Re: longshot]
    #2030071 - 10/21/03 09:27 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Gills were light brown on the inside, then the edges were a darker shade of brown. Bruising was a cross between blue and green, but it still had a brown tint to it..It didnt take long for them to bruise, less than a couple of minutes. I didn't take any prints.


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Re: What's Wrong? [Re: adoseofparn0z]
    #2030551 - 10/21/03 11:36 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)



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    #2030556 - 10/21/03 11:36 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

They probably weren't Cubensis.


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Re: What's Wrong? [Re: Ase]
    #2030893 - 10/22/03 12:47 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Im surprised no one has said this, but read the notes on the top of the forum, Read the FAQS on the shroomery.com, Go find a good book or someone who knows what they are doing before you picking and randomly eating what you find. Judging on what you posted earlier, you dont really know anything abour shrooms, hunting them, or psychedelics for that matter. Im not trying to be an ass, but really, before you do anything, especially a new drug, read up man, know your substances, espcially if they could be potentially posionus when picking them in nature. If you had read the FAQs you would have known about tolerance and wouldn't have wasted all your "Cubensis," you would have also know that smoking them is a waste. Also, you would have known a proper way to dose them and how much to take. And if you had found a good internet source, you might have been able to identify what you found more accurately. Just my two cents here...


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Re: What's Wrong? [Re: adoseofparn0z]
    #2031034 - 10/22/03 01:22 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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The first time I prepared mushroom tea, I washed the mushrooms off very thoroughly, soaked them in water, and even used them squeezed them out like a sponge to remove excess water. I ate a mushroom, felt no effects...




I would think this wash removed a lot of the alkaloids...not sure though.

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The next day I tried the same thing without success, so yesterday, I tried fixing some mushroom tea WITHOUT soaking in water, etc. The original feeling I had from eating the first 4 mushrooms was there again, slightly stronger. Still nothing significant...




dunno why it didn't work this time.  I would definately wait longer between doses, and verify the identity of these mushrooms, as was said. I would forget the tea until you actually get an effect from these, just eat them, I kinda like the taste.... :smile2: 


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Re: What's Wrong? [Re: AuroricDistortions]
    #2037314 - 10/23/03 08:17 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I have been reading up on mushrooms for at least 4-5 months...Erowid, Google Searches, anti-drug websites etc...

I had taken some tranquilizers prior to writing the original post, so stop acting like I'm an idiot.


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