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OfflineMycoCat
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To Fast or not to Fast?
    #2005595 - 10/13/03 02:39 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I would like to think I'm at least semi-experienced in the consumption of mushrooms, but was wondering what other's thoughts were on fasting before ingestion.

Does it make it more intense or is there not much of a difference?

Every time I've done mushrooms before this has been strictly recreational but I'd like to gain a more spiritual trip if possible. Just wanted to know if fasting would help. Thanks.


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Re: To Fast or not to Fast? [Re: MycoCat]
    #2005598 - 10/13/03 02:41 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

i never eat before....the only way as far as im concerned. I would feel impure if id eaten.


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Re: To Fast or not to Fast? [Re: PDU]
    #2005613 - 10/13/03 02:47 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

But how long before?


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Re: To Fast or not to Fast? [Re: MycoCat]
    #2005637 - 10/13/03 02:56 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Well, I'm not sure about fasting (never done it even without shrooms) but having an empty stomach can def. heighten the experience. I find that when I eat healthy, my mind seems to be cleared or lifted of a haze that has been ever constant during my life. When I say eat healthy I mean eating only natural foods (no processed foods) such as plenty of OJ, broccoli, carrots, tomatoes, mushrooms (A. Bisporus) etc. The day you shroom, I would suggest eating only such foods. I mean, you need sugar in your blood, you don't want to be weak during the trip, (or after). OJ and other natural fruit juice, or fruit, gives you natural sugars which are smoother on your body and insulin levels. I have recently had a chance to try out shrooming on days where I ate healthy and days I didn't. For some reason the day I didn't eat natural, the come up was seemingly much more difficult, while the day I ate natural, the come-up was a lot smoother despite taking considerably more of a dose the time I ate healthy. However, that was about a month apart, so loss of potency could be attirbuted, but I doubt it was signifcant, because I went very deep the second time (when I ate healthy). Also, the fisrt time the trip was very "hopeless," I guess you could say, while the second trip was very profound.

Well, the point is, I would recomend either fasting or eating healthy the day you shroom.


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Re: To Fast or not to Fast? [Re: ArmFromTheAbyss]
    #2005647 - 10/13/03 03:03 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the advice.


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Re: To Fast or not to Fast? [Re: MycoCat]
    #2005699 - 10/13/03 03:25 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I generally go around 16 hours....I have a very erratic eating schedule anyways....so itll be between 36 and 12 hours without food, and if i eat ill perhaps have a cup of yogurt and some oats or somethiing light like that. Lots of water...it'll help the trip.

I mean, dont worry about it...if your gonna be tripping at night, eat a light, non greasy breakfast and drink 5-12oz's of water throughout the day, skip lunch and dinner...and your set.


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Re: To Fast or not to Fast? [Re: PDU]
    #2005957 - 10/13/03 05:18 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Last trip I had we ate the shrooms at around 4pm and I hadnt eaten since breakfast, i felt kind of tired for most of the trip. Has anyone else experience this?(i have no idea what the reason for this was)

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Re: To Fast or not to Fast? [Re: Oook]
    #2006360 - 10/13/03 07:47 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

6 hours should be fine, you don't want to be too hungry for your trip.

My fictional friend, Don Quixote likes to eat a small piece of something (like say, a chocolate bar) after eating shrooms. This seems to get his stomach acids working to digest the shrooms. Trips tend to start sooner when Don has a little food during or right after injestion.

I think Don just likes chocolate. Hell, if you can eat it, Don likes it... he's such a fatty.


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Re: To Fast or not to Fast? [Re: Rose]
    #2006364 - 10/13/03 07:49 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

As for a spiritual trip, check out "The Psycadellic Experience" by Tim Leary. This book is all about how to have a spiritual trip.

Let us know when you reach lvl 5.


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Re: To Fast or not to Fast? [Re: Rose]
    #2007740 - 10/14/03 07:06 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I don't like fasting before eating the fruit, but I tend to eat a lot less food and a lot more healthy food starting a few days before the trip. I find a completely empty stomach tends to pull my attention away from what is important.


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Re: To Fast or not to Fast? [Re: Seuss]
    #2007948 - 10/14/03 09:41 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

If I don't eat beforehand, the acid builds up in my stomach and it hurts like hell. I can't eat b/c I feel sick from the shrooms, and the acid is getting worse and worse, so I always make sure I eat a yogurt or something beforehand with a few Tums to sooth my stomach so I can enjoy my trip. I will never fast before a trip.

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Re: To Fast or not to Fast? [Re: StrongBad]
    #2019709 - 10/18/03 01:37 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I recomend:

a good but brisk breakfast.
No lunch,
work in manual labour (something rewarding, like
gardening maybe?) for a few hours

trip at around 2 hours before sunset
(eat some, not much, chocolate to prorate your brain)

drink alcohol and order a pizza (or penne, is good too, with fresh basil) with the come down.

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Re: To Fast or not to Fast? [Re: MycoCat]
    #2020984 - 10/18/03 04:39 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

It's subjective from all of the different threads about fasting, but I find it's the only way to shroom. I avoid everything except for water for the entire day, and consume them with a bit of OJ. No nausia and a much stronger experience IMO.


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Re: To Fast or not to Fast? [Re: Lamenting Martyr]
    #2021062 - 10/18/03 05:29 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

If you fast you wont get stomache sick. 4 hours of non-eating will insure that you have nothing in your stomache, I think. Any more and I think the mushroom goodness gets absorbed better. I vote for fasting.


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Re: To Fast or not to Fast? [Re: MycoCat]
    #2021861 - 10/19/03 01:20 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

When I trip, it's always on a Saturday night (not Friday since I'm too tired that night) at around 11 pm to 1 am I will dose. During the day, I will only have eaten fruits, breads, you... ancient foods. Although once I ate McDonald's food about 3 hours before dosing.


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Re: To Fast or not to Fast? [Re: MycoCat]
    #2023014 - 10/19/03 03:46 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I usually shroom at night or in the afternoon. I simply don't eat for the entire day before my shroom experience, although I'll usually eat the night before. I guess this is somewhere between 18-24 hours of fasting on my part. The mushrooms hit you much harder and give you a much more intense experience. And I would have to agree that I feel impure eating mushrooms on a full stomach.


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Re: To Fast or not to Fast? [Re: TheEggman]
    #2023603 - 10/19/03 07:35 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I hate fasting before tripping...i always feel like empty or something, and pretty sick...Though don't eat kfc before eatiung shrooms, like one of my friend did (had severe nausea for 2 hours and finally puked)...the best i think is to eat lightly before eating the mushrooms. Like mixed nuts, bananas, granola bars, stuff like that,,,i never feel sick when i eat those before tripping

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