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eezachee
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Bleach and Spores
#20209727 - 07/01/14 08:19 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Does bleach kill spores? I want to bleach my incubation and fruiting chamber. But if I have to wipe it down with water to eliminate any possibility of bleach residue dosnt that defeat the whole purpose?
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PussyFart
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Re: Bleach and Spores [Re: eezachee]
#20209739 - 07/01/14 08:27 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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eezachee said: I want to bleach my incubation and fruiting chamber.
Totally unnecessary.
Colonizing jars/bags have filters, and fruiting is not a sterile process.
Incubating is not even needed, room temp is just fine.
Yes, bleach kills spores.....but they will not kill the spores that are in the jars unless you squirt bleach in the jars.
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Re: Bleach and Spores [Re: eezachee]
#20209740 - 07/01/14 08:27 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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2 things not sure where you at right now but
1 DONT INCUBATE especially not now in the heat of summer im telling you ive had many contamination problums my first grows due to high incubation temp 80-85 store them somewhere that is a constant temp and not above 78-79F IMO. also make sure they are not air tight where you leave them.High temp is a big problum for contams. Right now my jars are inncubating in my basement contant 70F and are doing well, their their because the rest of my house is to hot.
READ THIS http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8468463/fpart/all/vc/1
2.it dosent matter really, what i do is just spray a cloth or paper towel of w.e then wipe the entire enclosure or whatever your sanitizing and then give it an alchol mist and let it dry but that might even be over kill
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Edited by SmokeDaDabs (07/01/14 08:28 AM)
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SmokeDaDabs
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dont worry about bleach residue
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eezachee
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As far as FAE, I have a air pump that is hooked up to a humidifier. So no need to micropore tape the holes or leave foil over the lids that have holes? As far as where I am, I'm going for my 2nd attempt. Lost the first round due to wet spot. Trying to really treat my sanitation and sterilization process to avoid wet spot in this batch.
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Re: Bleach and Spores [Re: eezachee]
#20209778 - 07/01/14 08:44 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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eezachee said: As far as FAE, I have a air pump that is hooked up to a humidifier.
Please explain.
FAE is something the chamber should be doing constantly on it's own, without electronic garbage.
Humidifiers are only good for greenhouses....never use them for cakes or bulk in SGFCs or Monotubs.
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eezachee said: So no need to micropore tape the holes or leave foil over the lids that have holes?
No....your dry verm layer is your contam filter, and the foil is only used to keep moisture out during sterilization.
After sterilization the foil gets removed and the holes remain open and exposed so the dry verm layer can stay dry.
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Re: Bleach and Spores [Re: eezachee]
#20209785 - 07/01/14 08:48 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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And we are central air whores here and average temp in my basement is 65 in the summer. So I was incubating to 76 last time around. I think my failure was in the half ass job of incubating in a sterile environment. And hmmm...I bought a kit from I think it was spores 101 that came with all of it labeled "automated grow kit" they said when fruiting you want humidity high as possible.
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Re: Bleach and Spores [Re: eezachee]
#20209790 - 07/01/14 08:49 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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So it came with two bins, fish tank heater , air pump and humidifier
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Re: Bleach and Spores [Re: eezachee]
#20209799 - 07/01/14 08:52 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lots of fresh air means lots of evaporation....which means lots of moisture in the air, which means high humidity. 
This is why we mist the substrate, so there is lots of evaporation happening.
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eezachee said: So it came with two bins, fish tank heater , air pump and humidifier
Use one of the bins to make a SGFC.
Use the other bin to store the jars/bags in.
Sell/toss the heater and air pump.
Oh and spores101 will do nothing but take your money and run with it.
They are notorious around here for ripping people off.
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EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Re: Bleach and Spores [Re: PussyFart]
#20209801 - 07/01/14 08:54 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh boy, should I look elsewhere for syringes as well?
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PussyFart
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Re: Bleach and Spores [Re: eezachee]
#20209804 - 07/01/14 08:55 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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THIS HOBBY IS NOT FOR THE IMPATIENT! PLEASE BE PATIENT, DON'T BE A PATIENT!
A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD,
SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
*** *** AFGHAN KUSH GROW LOG *** ***
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SmokeDaDabs
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Re: Bleach and Spores [Re: PussyFart]
#20209834 - 07/01/14 09:05 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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RALPHSTERS ALWAYS lol and yea listen to pussy fart
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PussyFart
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Smoke, please edit your post and remove the vendors name.
He is no longer a sponsor here for a reason.
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THIS HOBBY IS NOT FOR THE IMPATIENT! PLEASE BE PATIENT, DON'T BE A PATIENT!
A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD,
SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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Re: Bleach and Spores [Re: PussyFart]
#20209906 - 07/01/14 09:30 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok so while incubating don't worry about the air pump and humidifier and just make my own SAB. And the humidifier still isn't a good idea when fruiting? Sorry to keep questioning after one screw up and a million different answers I really want this dialed in. Read a lot of different tek that have somewhat conflicting info info. Using BRF
Edited by eezachee (07/01/14 09:32 AM)
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eezachee
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Re: Bleach and Spores [Re: eezachee]
#20209925 - 07/01/14 09:36 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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And obviously there's nothing to spray while they are jars.
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Re: Bleach and Spores [Re: eezachee]
#20209926 - 07/01/14 09:36 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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RR's SGFC design
costs a tub and some perlite.
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