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I need to learn how to make some pasta
    #2020940 - 10/18/03 06:25 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

No meat or cheese. What can I do? I've never spaghetti or any pasta dishes before except ramen noodles. So all I basically need is noodles and tomatos or spices or herbs? Can anyone give me a recipe?


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Re: I need to learn how to make some pasta [Re: reflectedlight]
    #2021023 - 10/18/03 06:59 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

never had pasta well than, just get some ragu, speghetti sauce pesto sauce or any of those, alfredo sauce is good, if your not a recipe guy, id recomend going to the supermarket and they sell packs of powdered sauces that require just cooking them in like water or oil or both, so its really easy, usualy they are pretty good to. and if youd like you can mess around with your own stuff, its always fun, they make prepackaged speghetti sauce in bottles so you should be all set there, and foodtv.com has a lot of recipes.


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Re: I need to learn how to make some pasta [Re: reflectedlight]
    #2021024 - 10/18/03 07:00 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

The pasta box should tellyou how to cook it, it is ussually cook in a gallon of boiling water to a tablespoon of salt. Add the salt after the water comes to boil. Should cook from 8 to 13 minutes depending what you are cooking. Stir every couple minutesor the stuff stick together. Your better off cooking elbow macaroni or some other small pasta your first time around.

Sauce: 1 6 ounce can of tomato paste, one 12 ounce can of diced tomatos, one large clove of crushed garlic, one teaspoon black pepper, and one ounce of olive oil. Mix this in a nonaluminum pot and heat for 15 minutes. If you have some itallian seasoning or wine and wanna throw them in its good but it doesn't need it.

Chop up some veggies you like with tomato sauce saute in oil.

Throw the cooked veggies and sauce in the pot with the drained pasta stir them around. Salt to taste and eat.


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Re: I need to learn how to make some pasta [Re: falcon]
    #2028145 - 10/21/03 10:39 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Pasta is a PIECE OF PISS.


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Re: I need to learn how to make some pasta [Re: falcon]
    #2029094 - 10/21/03 04:46 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Salt makes the water boil faster :smile:  I add it before.

But the way to cook the pasta is pretty spot on.  I usually add a couple of dribbles of Extra Virgin Olive Oil so that the noodles come out silky.

Also, big point.. after you drain the pasta, run some cold water over it, if you dont it will not stop cooking and will get all lumpy and mushy and stick together.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...;o=&fpart=1 Alpiner posted a good pasta recipe

You can omit the cheese and it would still be very tasty and flavorful.  Alfredo is not an option for you, because it is loaded with cheese.


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Re: I need to learn how to make some pasta [Re: mr_kite]
    #2030933 - 10/22/03 12:56 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Entymology?


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Re: I need to learn how to make some pasta [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #2030980 - 10/22/03 01:04 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Cold water, important, thanks I forgot that.


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Re: I need to learn how to make some pasta [Re: reflectedlight]
    #2031856 - 10/22/03 11:19 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

What I like to do is to cook pasta in LOTS of boiling water, much more than you feel you would need. I dont salt my pot until Ive put the pasta in for two reasons.

1, its not good for the metal to salt the water before boiling and
2, after putting the pasta in, if you salt it then it will bring the water back to boil faster.

I never put oil in the water because it coats the noodles and they cant soak up any flavor if theyre coated.

What I do is just drain the pasta and before cooling I toss it with a little of the sauce, whatever kind of sauce it may be. This will keep the pasta from sticking together in a clump and the noodles will soak up the sauce as they cool giving them flavor.

If you dont have a large pot to boil your pasta in then its OK to give a little rince before coating with sauce to wash away some of the startch.


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Re: I need to learn how to make some pasta [Re: GabbaDj]
    #2031921 - 10/22/03 11:46 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Hrmm.

That's why you salt yer water.. so that not only the whole shebang happens quicker.. but so that the temp doesnt dip when you put yer pasta in :smile:  It also seasons the pasta and works with the starches in the pasta to help it adhere sauce better.

Ive never had a problem with my pasta pots.  I used to have one that was 3rd generation from my sicillian grandmother that didnt appear to have suffered from salting.  I suppose you could do it either way.

As for the oil, dribble is the keyword in the sentence.  I, personally, notice that it does not effect sauce adherance.  But then again, if I really care about a sauce adhering, I use a pasta that has ridges or places to trap the sauce.. like penne or rigatoni.  I hate pasta that is all bloated with sauce and the dried pastas, even Barilla and DeCecco are too starchy for me. 

I never rinse fresh pasta, that would be sacriledge :smile: 

In anycase, everyone develops their preferences with experience.

Good luck on the pasta


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Re: I need to learn how to make some pasta [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #2031958 - 10/22/03 11:59 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

wow - you just told meat boi what the fuck is up with the penne


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Re: I need to learn how to make some pasta [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #2040944 - 10/24/03 10:35 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Salt actually raises the boiling point of water by 1-2 degrees F (in the concentrations used here) so the water takes longer to boil but since it is hotter the pasta cooks faster


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Re: I need to learn how to make some pasta [Re: zeta]
    #2042113 - 10/25/03 04:21 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

i made pasta..... takes a long time to make, you really have to get organized and time the rest of your meal right. but it tasted good.. Thanks for the help and motivation. I am on my way to being an excellent chefe, i know it!


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Re: I need to learn how to make some pasta [Re: zeta]
    #2042292 - 10/25/03 05:27 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

1-2 degrees..

yeah, it takes a lot longer.


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Re: I need to learn how to make some pasta [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #2042416 - 10/25/03 06:14 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

When did we get this forum; "Culinary Arts"?

This is good because I got some old world halaal dishes that'll knock the socks off anyone.


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Re: I need to learn how to make some pasta [Re: reflectedlight]
    #2042445 - 10/25/03 06:30 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Salt and olive oil will serve only to make the noodles slimy and disgusting. For proper, al dente noodles keep a close eye on the pasta until it is sticky, not slimy. the trick of throwing the noodle at the wall to see if it sticks works well. It will not work with Ziti.

Puree the tomatoes in a food processor or blender until it is thin. Add water to give the sauce body.(Avoid if incuding pork) Then add some tomato paste (canned, you NEED to buy it) and heat it until lightly boiling. This will be the base sauce, and should be heated until proper thickness has been reached. This is why GOOD tomato sauce takes all day.

Add fresh, diced garlic, olive oil (preferably extra virgin,) basil, oregano, dry red wine, black pepper, Romano, Parmesan(avoid if you're a purist,) cilantro, a pinch of mint, and even a teaspoon of A1 steak sauce if you want to add a kick.

Brown any meats you want to add to the sauce, and then add them to the simmering mix. Keep in mind that pork thins the sauce, as it is very juicy and releases lots of liquid. Pork, Veal, Ground Beef, Lamb, Meatballs, and Prociutto are all great ideas to add to the sauce. If you intend to let the sauce simmer all day, you can add raw meat to the sauce and it will brown in the simmering sauce. Be sure to be constantly stirring the sauce or it will stick. Add an amount of spices that you find to your liking. It's very subjective in the end.

Good luck!


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Re: I need to learn how to make some pasta [Re: Kiafi]
    #2043731 - 10/26/03 02:48 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

This: "Salt and olive oil will serve only to make the noodles slimy and disgusting. "

from someone who suggests this:
"...cilantro, a pinch of mint, and even a teaspoon of A1 steak sauce if you want to add a kick."


bwahahaha. Sorry, it is just hilariously funny to me.

..Oh.. cant... stop... laughing....



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Re: I need to learn how to make some pasta [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #2045573 - 10/26/03 09:47 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

You laugh, but I SWEAR. Look at the ingredients of A1 and you'll see why. Lots of citrus and bold flavor.


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Re: I need to learn how to make some pasta [Re: Kiafi]
    #2045834 - 10/26/03 11:30 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I always make my own pasta sauces.  Pretty much follow what they said above for cooking noodles, cooked "al dente", with a dash of salt and tiny bit of olive oil added to the water before hand. 

My sauces basically include this:

olive oil
half white or yellow onion chopped
1-2 cloves of garlic minced
carrots, brocolli, red bell pepper, bay leaf
red cooking wine
any other vegetables or whatever you like.

Can of stewed tomatoes
About 1-2 Tablespoons tomato paste
salt and pepper to taste
1-2 tsp. of basil
any other spices you like that will make it better for you

Saut? the first half of ingredients on medium heat until onions are soft and mildly transparent, add the rest of ingredients and simmer on low heat until sauce thickens, usually about 20-35 minutes.

Cooking is wonderful experimentation, just have fun with whatever you like.  :grin: 


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Re: I need to learn how to make some pasta [Re: sucklesworth]
    #2046421 - 10/27/03 03:30 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Make your own pasta with eggs and unbleached flour.I use a rolling pin and hand noodle cutter.Boil noodles for 2 minutes,add garlic,olive oil and maybe a little balsam vinegar..good stuff!


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Re: I need to learn how to make some pasta [Re: Pinhead]
    #2048642 - 10/27/03 10:43 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

ay yi yi, he's learning how to make pasta for the first time and you suggest to make fresh pasta from scratch!?!?!?

feel free to ignore pinhead's comment.

also, i might suggest finding canned crushed tomatoes or tomato sauce (not ragu or prego, just pure tomato, found next to diced tomatoes and things) it makes for a better texture in less time IMHO.

this is how i make mine:

fry a diced onion in a generous amount of olive oil with a teaspoon of salt (ALWAYS add salt when frying onions, it "sweats" the water out of the onions and allows other flavors to enter)
then add some bell peppers and any other vegetables,
shortly after add garlic (careful not to burn garlic, do this frying at med/med-high heat, not high)
then i add one can diced tomatoes and one can crushed tomatoes/tomato sauce
then add about 2 Tablespoons or so of red wine or red wine vinegar
simmer (cook at medium heat so that there is a small rolling boil) for about 10 minutes.
then generously add some (dried) italian seasoning herbs, like 2 tablespoons
then fadd the secret ingredient....a spoonful of sugar (delicious, trust me, balances out the red wine component perfectly)
simmer for another 5-10 minutes.
remove from heat, add another 6 tablespoons or so of olive oil (good olive oil if you have it, but that's not too big a deal)
then voila, some awesome tomato sauce.
either add pasta to the sauce pan (my preferred method) or pour over some pasta. i'd add grated cheese (parmesan if you got it) to mine, because after all, what savory dish could not use a little more cheese?

if you follow this right it will be fantastic, trust me.


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