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What holds the mushroom to substrate?
    #20197981 - 06/28/14 09:05 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

They dont have roots like plants do, correct? Last night I picked a mushies and almost knocked the one next to it clean off. It was barely attached but matured none the less into a huge mushroom.

Just curious!

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Re: What holds the mushroom to substrate? [Re: mushpunx]
    #20197997 - 06/28/14 09:12 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

The mycelium that your grow.is the actual organism, and what we see as mushrooms are just the reproductive parts of that organism.

it only needs a few mycelial fibers to form a pin into a mushroom.

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Re: What holds the mushroom to substrate? [Re: blojo02184]
    #20198006 - 06/28/14 09:15 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)



For reference, :grin:


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Re: What holds the mushroom to substrate? [Re: mushpunx]
    #20198009 - 06/28/14 09:16 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Ummm, the mycelium hold it there, mushrooms are the reproductive system of the fungus. Mycelium is the "body" where natural processes take place, then they throw up a fruit drop spores and fungi life on and on.


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Re: What holds the mushroom to substrate? [Re: March Hare]
    #20198439 - 06/28/14 11:09 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Nice diagram...explains the basics quite well for a general idea and understanding of the system. :thumbup:


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Re: What holds the mushroom to substrate? [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
    #20198570 - 06/28/14 11:48 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks !


Blojo02184 thanx you hit what I was specifically trying to ask I think.

"Mycelial fibers" . I was curious how a mushroom just hanging on by a few threads could mature intoa full blown mushroom... I just couldn't believe that much water could flow through just a few strands of mycelium, this mushroom I knocked over was just barely hanging.


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Re: What holds the mushroom to substrate? [Re: mushpunx]
    #20198622 - 06/28/14 12:09 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Well, the rh is pretty high where if grows.
So the fibers don't need to carry water like a plant.
It can just suck it out of the air.

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Re: What holds the mushroom to substrate? [Re: blojo02184]
    #20198725 - 06/28/14 12:36 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Then what would stop the mushroom from getting bigger after its picked if it was left in a humid environment?

Seriously this mushroom was only hanging on by a few threads and still tripled in size


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Re: What holds the mushroom to substrate? [Re: blojo02184]
    #20198758 - 06/28/14 12:49 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycelium

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushroom#Growth

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Well, the rh is pretty high where if grows.
So the fibers don't need to carry water like a plant.
It can just suck it out of the air.




This isn't correct, the mycelium transport moisture and nutrients to the fruitbody.


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Re: What holds the mushroom to substrate? [Re: March Hare]
    #20198799 - 06/28/14 12:59 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Good articles!


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Re: What holds the mushroom to substrate? [Re: mushpunx]
    #20198810 - 06/28/14 01:03 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Fruits are the dick, balls, and vagina of the mycelium.


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Re: What holds the mushroom to substrate? [Re: blojo02184]
    #20198858 - 06/28/14 01:15 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

The connecting mycelia is not just a single strand, ropey looking mycelium is composed of many fine mycelium all bunched together.

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Well, the rh is pretty high where if grows.
So the fibers don't need to carry water like a plant.
It can just suck it out of the air.



What?  Um no.
Water is most certainly pumped into the fruit through the connected mycelia, in agressive fruits you can even watch the surrounding area divot as it loses water.
The point of a high RH is because fungal cells don't have walls like plants do and can more easily lose water to a dry environment.

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Re: What holds the mushroom to substrate? [Re: StygianKnight]
    #20199060 - 06/28/14 01:57 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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The connecting mycelia is not just a single strand, ropey looking mycelium is composed of many fine mycelium all bunched together.

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blojo02184 said:
Well, the rh is pretty high where if grows.
So the fibers don't need to carry water like a plant.
It can just suck it out of the air.



What?  Um no.
Water is most certainly pumped into the fruit through the connected mycelia, in agressive fruits you can even watch the surrounding area divot as it loses water.
The point of a high RH is because fungal cells don't have walls like plants do and can more easily lose water to a dry environment.




As when dropping spores. the stored moisture in the cap evaporates, pulling spores out with it.
I would still argue that some(not all) moisture is drawn on from the air.

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Re: What holds the mushroom to substrate? [Re: blojo02184]
    #20199093 - 06/28/14 02:05 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

blojo02184 said:
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StygianKnight said:
The connecting mycelia is not just a single strand, ropey looking mycelium is composed of many fine mycelium all bunched together.

Quote:

blojo02184 said:
Well, the rh is pretty high where if grows.
So the fibers don't need to carry water like a plant.
It can just suck it out of the air.



What?  Um no.
Water is most certainly pumped into the fruit through the connected mycelia, in agressive fruits you can even watch the surrounding area divot as it loses water.
The point of a high RH is because fungal cells don't have walls like plants do and can more easily lose water to a dry environment.




As when dropping spores. the stored moisture in the cap evaporates, pulling spores out with it.
I would still argue that some(not all) moisture is drawn on from the air.




http://www.anbg.gov.au/fungi/dispersal.html - spore release in fungi... so, still no.

Also this,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basidia


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Re: What holds the mushroom to substrate? [Re: March Hare]
    #20199135 - 06/28/14 02:14 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Ya dude fungi do not absorb moisture from the air, they lose it.  In a natural environment where the mushroom is 90% water and the air is 50%-90%rH, please explain to me how water would go against the force of osmosis without active transport.  This is what happens when people who don't know science try to replicate the motions of those who do.  its like a monkey using a bananna to drive a nail.


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Re: What holds the mushroom to substrate? [Re: MastaBlastar]
    #20199229 - 06/28/14 02:40 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

As a matter of fact, I'm just a monkey humping a coconut.
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And remember, can't tell google.

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Re: What holds the mushroom to substrate? [Re: mushpunx]
    #20199249 - 06/28/14 02:45 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

the mushroom is a part of the substrate and is made of myselium just like the substrate, it's an extension of it, we grow in a high rh enviroment because mushrooms have no skin and lose moisture to the atmosphere very easily
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They dont have roots like plants do, correct? Last night I picked a mushies and almost knocked the one next to it clean off. It was barely attached but matured none the less into a huge mushroom.

Just curious!

Thank you



it's genetic, some root deeper then others, it just happens:super:


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Re: What holds the mushroom to substrate? [Re: cronicr]
    #20199398 - 06/28/14 03:24 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I have found the less "roots" the have the bigger and firmer they are.


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