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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: Cubicinches]
    #21377991 - 03/08/15 02:11 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I enjoyed reading your sgfc and it's what I will be doing myself this Tuesday. I was just curious, as I'm sure you are familiar with it as well. I plan on doing this in a certain order..

1: build a sgfc &  sab.

2: making pastys simlle Agar tek.

3: inoculation.

Now I'm just curious What's the best thing to use Agar to inoculate and if it would be compatible with the sgfc.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: Cubicinches] * 1
    #21378008 - 03/08/15 02:16 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

make a grain jar lid for your PF Cake, skip the dry verm barrier. and then in a still air box inoculate the jar by taking the lid off and placing a agar wedge into the jar using good sterile technique.


I used a quart jar but only put a half pint of substrate in, so that it would not stall out, but you could do it with a smaller jar.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #21378234 - 03/08/15 03:06 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Okay, what exactly is a grain jar lid? And what condition should I keep a pasty Agar in? Fridge or darkrroom temperature? What do you suggest for the grain?


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: Cubicinches]
    #21378238 - 03/08/15 03:07 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Also it looks like you don't have a lid on that jar? Have you been fruiting that in a sab or a chamber?


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: Cubicinches]
    #21378742 - 03/08/15 05:12 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

This thread is about SGFC's. Please get back on topic. Thank you.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #21378749 - 03/08/15 05:14 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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This thread is about SGFC's. Please get back on topic. Thank you.



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true that it's really easy to make your own brand new thread.

but if you make a thread called what's a grain jar lid you'll get flamed. so look it up. grain jar lid TEK. newer than 5 years with images. only one post per thread, only search mushroom cultivation. tick the Trusted Cultivator box if you want.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: bodhisatta]
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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #21506495 - 04/05/15 04:11 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

This post by far is very helpful. I'm just beginning. My son suffers from clusters.... Ugh!  We are so glad we found you guys.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: rrdmx]
    #21713757 - 05/23/15 12:47 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

I have 50/50 coco,verm mix and 2:1 ratio to spawn.I filled 2-3 inches on the bottom of solo cups that I'm using as trays. I pasteurized and let them sit in the dark. Today is the sixth day and the mycelium emerged through the top of the surface. Do you think its time to fruit in shotgun chamber? Should I mist or soak them or put a casing and if so what do you recomend?


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: Phishnchips]
    #21732472 - 05/28/15 02:49 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Sure, all sounds good but not exactly necessary. Try some with case and some without see if it benefits in your environment. Experimentation is your best teacher.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #22338940 - 10/06/15 12:17 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Thanx for a great post on sgfc's!
I really like the design and understand the principles, I understand the airflow and evaporation etc...
Unfortunately it got me a bit bummed out...
Maybe this will make you spin, but I wonder if there is any adjustments to do to lower the mist and fan count per day?
You see, I work pretty much, and are usually away from home 14 hour/day, does this mean that sgfc's are out of the question for me?
Right now I run a very small improvised fruiting chamber with a few small holes in it, I only have time to mist and fan 2-3 times per day, and that is just, barely, enough for that fc.
With your design I am sure you get very much improved performance, but with no one to take care of the misting during day time I wonder if you could lower the amount of holes, of course with some loss in performance, but still.??
Or should I just give up and go for other fc design?
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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: braincrash]
    #22360023 - 10/10/15 07:31 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the feed back, but this isn't anywhere near my design. All I did was try to explain it another way and break down how it functions. But, I did not invent it.

To, answer your question, the recommendations for fanning and misting are considered optimal for this design, but that does not mean it won't work for you.

Your work schedule may mean that you have to mist more heavenly and/or get a good thick coat of verm on them when you roll.

You really have to just keep an on cakes anyway. I think 14 hours or so without misting is manageable, but I have no honest recommendations for alter or modifying the tub. Even if you try to cover some of the holes, the cakes will still dry unless you keep up with the misting.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #22367126 - 10/12/15 10:51 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Oki, thanx for your input.
I have finished one of my fc's, rolled the cakes yesterday and tried to get as much verm on as possible. B4 rolling I ground the verm in my hands so it got finer and that way I hope it holds moist better.
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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #22432544 - 10/25/15 06:14 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

With SGFC do u get leakage at the bottom? Seems easier that what I have been doin... And I have an air bubbler, would fanning be better, I do a bit of both but I def see now that my humidity is too high! I adjusted some things ( lowered temp, and will remove part of the top of the tank which makes it fully covered) ( it's a little plastic piece) this will allow for more of a flow of air, would u recommend fanning or keeping the air bubbler going constantly for now until I decide I want to switch my chamber up?


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: Leeper]
    #22432561 - 10/25/15 06:19 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Or just make it the right way..........


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #22432628 - 10/25/15 06:34 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Do you guys have issues with perlite and cakes drying out super fast with SGFC in a room with central air heating?

Cause i did, and its no bueno.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22432949 - 10/25/15 07:36 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Nope, close the vent if it's a huge problem or move it away. I live in Wisconsin in the winter there is no RH in the house I get shocked every three seconds from static. Mist the perlite too with the cakes


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #22432982 - 10/25/15 07:42 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

i used to live in a house where the vent was fixed as well as the temp was fixed for the whole house.

I remember having to use a syringe to squirt water thru the SGFC holes to get the perlige moist everyday lol

I finally just taped some holes, way too much drying out.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #22437028 - 10/26/15 08:05 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

HVAC is the reason I closed up my vent and covered with tape. I put an oil-filed plug in radiator with a thermostat in there for winter time. It's very efficient.

I've come to the conclusion that many things in cultivation are not one size fits all. But, I find it's better to start with what is known to work for most people and make adjustments and changes from there.

If taping up some of the holes works for you, then go for it. You will need to make sure you are still getting enough FAE though. You may not know if you are or not because you may not have enough experience to have an eye for the signs.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #22438258 - 10/27/15 01:09 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I agree fully :thumbup:

Start with proven design then modify for your own situation.

In the future, i am going to make my own unique version of the SGFC. Cant share any details yet.

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