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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: stareatclouds]
    #20847901 - 11/16/14 10:49 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Mist them more and move them to the middle of the tub


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #20847921 - 11/16/14 10:53 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Can you provide any reasoning for both so I can learn a bit more?

I can see a little bit of water pooling on the top right cake, but it doesn't pick up well on camera. It looks really moist and kind of soggy after the last misting. The bottom edges of a few look the same.

I moved the cakes to the middle and misted and fanned one more time.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: stareatclouds]
    #20848088 - 11/16/14 11:30 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

The pic may be a little misleading, I'm not the best at seeing stuff in pictures. So if you see pools of water, then that's plenty. If you don't see light glistening off the little pools of water, then you either need more light, have your eyes checked, or research what "glistening" means :lol: standing water glistens in light.

***edit*** I looked at the pic again: move the light closer and about 30 degrees off one of the top edges. Move as close as you can without heating the tub, about 6-12 inches away.

Move them toward the middle because they won't dry as fast, but the surface will still evaporate well enough. Some FAE comes in through the holes. Over time, you will notice the perlite dries faster around the edges than in the middle.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #20848147 - 11/16/14 11:51 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you for this! Good to have these TEKs as it helps the early beginners learn with confidence.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: Acquario]
    #20861688 - 11/19/14 08:22 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

SBJ,

Here's a video of the amount I spray onto the cakes. Anything stand out as bad? It's been about 11 days since I fruited 3 of them, but still no pins. I'm patient though, just want to make sure I'm fanning/misting properly.



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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: stareatclouds]
    #20862265 - 11/19/14 10:17 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Spray more than that. You can get a little closer, too. You're gonna wear out your sprayer going that fast.

Focus the spray on one cake at a time. I don't mean you need to isolate it though. Just make sure each cake is is getting the individual attention it deserves so it's wet.

Unfortunately, I can't find any pics to show you what a freshly sprayed glistening cake looks like. But, your video ain't it. Until someone posts a pic or you find one, the best I can tell you is it should look wet with an obvious sheen of water.

Using the search feature, search "cake" and go down and check the box that says "containing: images". This will at least filter your search to pictures of cakes for the most part. You may come across a good one.

I know some of you regulars are reading this, feel free to step in at any time :lol:  Bueller?


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #20862351 - 11/19/14 10:45 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Ok, thanks. I spray quick because at the angle I need, my bottle will instantly stop spraying.

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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: stareatclouds]
    #20862429 - 11/19/14 11:04 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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Your cakes may have dried a little. They look healthy, but you may have to mist them a couple extra times because they may absorb the water a little quick.

See how they glisten? Especially the one in the pic I quoted? That glisten will slowly go away. There's a point where they no longer glisten, but they still look moist. Vermiculite gets lighter in color as it dries. You may want to look at some dry vermiculite for comparison. Also, pay attention to what the mycelium looks like too as it goes from glistening to drying out.

You want to mist again once the cakes are no longer glistening, but they still have a slight moist appearance. Paying attention to the changes in the mycelium will be helpful as it takes over the vermiculite. As it does, you won't be able to use the vermiculite as reference anymore.

Your misting routine will develop as you go. For now, you need to pay attention to them and mist as needed. Don't worry about how many times others do it or going by a clock or timer. Rely on your eyes to tell you when to mist again. You my notice more misting is needed at first, then a little less, then more once they start getting bigger.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #20862465 - 11/19/14 11:11 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Nice upgrade to the original tek. More of 'the basics' definitely need to be freshened up.

Thank you! Looking forward to reading more. :smile:


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: hidyn]
    #20862775 - 11/20/14 12:07 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

SBJ,

Thanks a lot. I'll be misting until all cakes resemble the one you quoted.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: stareatclouds]
    #20863990 - 11/20/14 07:42 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Looking good brother!  :like:


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: stareatclouds]
    #20864813 - 11/20/14 12:17 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Looks like you're on the right track now.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #20873710 - 11/22/14 09:30 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

SBJ,

I'm going to move my cakes out of the chamber to rinse the perlite again. I've also noticed that my walls get soaked each time I mist as I have to hold the bottle nearly vertical or it won't spray. Should I bother wiping them off after or is this fine?

I also have my setup in a small room with a standard baseboard heater to keep it at 70F at all times. It's probably 3 feet from the chambers, if that. Is this going to cause an issue?

Oh, and I've added a second chamber for the rest of my cakes. Any issues with this?



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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: stareatclouds]
    #20873758 - 11/22/14 09:54 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Getting water on the walls is fine, it just serves no purpose. Don't bother wiping it off.

Having you tubs too close to the heater may cause it to dry faster and may cause your cakes to dry out. Just keep an eye on it. You may just have to mist more and/or wet your perlite more. I prefer to have the heat on the opposite side of the room from my grow so the temperature swings aren't as wild.

Having 2 chambers is fine.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #20873773 - 11/22/14 10:00 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I know it serves no purpose, was wondering if it's problematic? I heard it can negatively affect the air currents or something to that extent. I'll just leave it alone and closely monitor the moisture levels. If I had room to move the chambers, I would, but unfortunately that's the best I can do. Thanks.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: stareatclouds]
    #20873866 - 11/22/14 10:43 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

get a better spray bottle or bend the straw so you can spray it horizontal


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #20873880 - 11/22/14 10:48 AM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I'll look into a smaller one, maybe. Just saw my first pins though! My first sign of the work paying off. I'M A FATHER!


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: stareatclouds]
    #20874204 - 11/22/14 12:53 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Make sure you're spraying the sides of the cakes too.


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    #20874972 - 11/22/14 04:45 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I'm sure the sides are getting hit from the residual mist. I'm spraying them pretty good now, especially the ones I had a bit on the dry side. I saw a few more tiny pins in between my last post and now. I'm excited.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: stareatclouds]
    #20875395 - 11/22/14 06:25 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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