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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: Abshroom]
    #20705476 - 10/15/14 11:18 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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I would put them in the middle close together. You can always move them farther apart later if the fruits start growing too close.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #20711559 - 10/16/14 05:35 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

why is this FC called shotgun?


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: ClosetMonster]
    #20711619 - 10/16/14 05:50 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Because it looks like a shotgun blast hit it due to all of the holes.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: stareatclouds]
    #20713935 - 10/17/14 02:55 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

heres a good question

how far from the inner walls should you keep the cakes ? how many inch ?

id assume if you keep the cake too close to the wall or a corner inside the box
it might dry up faster than the ones in the middle of the FC


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #20846707 - 11/16/14 07:03 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

How often I have to make the perlite wet?


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: ClosetMonster]
    #20846816 - 11/16/14 07:24 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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heres a good question

how far from the inner walls should you keep the cakes ? how many inch ?

id assume if you keep the cake too close to the wall or a corner inside the box
it might dry up faster than the ones in the middle of the FC




The more full the FC is with cakes, the less of an issue this is because it's easier to maintain higher RH. But, a couple of inches should suffice. I've honestly never had this issue. Sorry if my reply is too late, I've been away.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: rrdmx]
    #20846823 - 11/16/14 07:25 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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How often I have to make the perlite wet?




Generally, the over-spray from misting the cakes is enough to keep it moist. But, I would get it good and wet again before loading cakes in again.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #20846971 - 11/16/14 07:48 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

When I first put in my hygrometer, it read around 90-100. I had 3 cakes in there so I was only misting the far left side of the chamber. The hygrometer has dropped to 80 and stayed there. I know they aren't accurate, and my shit is definitely built properly with enough perlite in there, but it worries me that it dropped 20%. Should I rehydrate by dumping water in there or what? I spray the hell out of the bare perlite whenever I mist the cakes, but it isn't really rising.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: stareatclouds]
    #20847032 - 11/16/14 07:57 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

ignore the hygrometer. Just mist the cakes directly. Mist the cakes according to how they look, not according to what you think the humidity is.

If it seams the perlite has dried out, then remove the cakes and pour some water over the perlite. Be aware that the water will run out the bottom. Also, make sure dust hasn't accumulated on the bottom and clogging the holes. This may be happening now or may happen if you pour water over the perlite and let it drain.

Stick your hand in the perlite and see if it's moist underneath. A little extra surface misting never hurts, just don't over saturate your cakes.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #20847051 - 11/16/14 07:59 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Even if the hygrometer is inaccurate to the actual %, it should be a constant reading, shouldn't it?

I'm not sure how the cakes should look. People say little sparkles of water on the verm, but I never see that. I just spray maybe 10-15 squirts above the cakes and then fan for 15 seconds after and put the lid back on.

I'll feel around the perlite and check for dust holes.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: stareatclouds]
    #20847418 - 11/16/14 08:57 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Just ignore the hygrometer; it's garbage.

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Mist your cakes till they glisten with moisture and then fan the SGFC out. There is a magic time when your cakes are no longer glistening, but they still appear moist, this is when you want to mist and fan again.





Mist the cake until it looks like it's glistening with water, you are very unlikely to over-mist them. Then, once that water evaporates and is no longer glistening, but they still have a slightly moist appearance, mist again. By this I mean, they don't look dried out, but the little reflection, the sparkle, the glisten from the water is gone.

If it's getting too dry, the myc will start to yellow a bit. You don't want this.

Over-misting usually happens when you mist too much too often, mostly too often. If you can see it's time to mist, then a heavy misting is not usually an issue unless you have pooling water at the bottom of the cake. Even a light mist too often will cause saturation.

If you only mist when there is no more glistening, and then just mist until it looks glistening with wet, then you should be good. You may have to do it more or less than others.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #20847486 - 11/16/14 09:10 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think I've seen them glisten ever. I will record and take pictures on my next mist/fanning, which will be tomorrow morning.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: stareatclouds]
    #20847507 - 11/16/14 09:14 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

It's not going to be like glitter or something, but hopefully you can tell when something looks good and wet on the surface.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #20847524 - 11/16/14 09:18 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I really can't see any difference. I have a lot of verm on my cakes still. I can see water reflecting off of the foil, but not really much on the cakes.

And is there anything that says hygrometers give off random and sporadic readings? I thought the actual % was worthless, which I agree with, but the reading should be constant. Like, even if it's not calibrated properly, it wouldn't fluctuate in % randomly?


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: stareatclouds]
    #20847580 - 11/16/14 09:26 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

I've had 5 of the exact same hygrometer at the same time in the same spot. They all were collaborate- at the same time and same way. After 24 hours, they all read different. After another 24 hours, they all read differently in a different way. Some that read higher now read lower and vice-verse. So, yeah, they suck unless you get an expensive one.

But they are pointless because the important thing is the RH at the surface level of your cakes and not the SGFC as a whole. This is why you need a proper mist schedule. Just properly mist the cakes, keep the perlite damp, and the SGFC will have plenty of humidity.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #20847597 - 11/16/14 09:29 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Ok, thanks for that. I won't rely on the hygrometer for anything anymore. I've misted them 3-5 times a day every day and I fan them after each misting. There's no dust or debris on the bottom of the holes and the perlite feels damp to the touch below the surface. It stuck to my hand very easily so I'm sure it's wet enough, especially with me spraying down the unoccupied area each time I mist the cakes.

Should I post pictures and video here tomorrow or would you prefer I start my own thread?


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: stareatclouds]
    #20847614 - 11/16/14 09:31 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't think I've seen them glisten ever. I will record and take pictures on my next mist/fanning, which will be tomorrow morning.




What I am currently doing, is taking a bright blue spectrum type of light ( I guess any light would work, but I think the bluish works best) and shining it on my cakes to make sure they are glistening. I use the flashlight from my phone even just to see they have a good glisten.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: stareatclouds]
    #20847629 - 11/16/14 09:34 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

You can post a pic. Post a pic of your SGFC and your cake right after misting.

Oh yeah, a few waves of the lid is all you need for fanning. In my opinion, the fanning, while beneficial, is a little over-rated. I only wave over it about 10 times after misting.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #20847672 - 11/16/14 09:44 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Noted. I usually fan pretty hard with the lid for 10-15 seconds. I might give them a final misting and fanning tonight before they go to sleep just so I can get the pictures up.


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Re: Basic Principles of the Shotgun Fruiting Chamber (SGFC) [Re: stareatclouds]
    #20847871 - 11/16/14 10:41 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Here are pictures after I misted them. This is a much closer time between mistings than I've done before because I wanted some pics in tonight. The 3 cakes on the left were put in the chamber on 11/8.




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